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I'm not sure if the internal amp on the Titanium HD is powerful (like the Essence STX which has an amp similar to the E9). In any case, the Sennheisers shouldn't have a problem with it. The Beyers MIGHT. I can't say, as I know very little about soundcards. Try the Nameless PC gaming thread, to see if your soundcard is powerful enough for something like the 250ohm Beyers.
By competitive, I don't mean tourneys, clan matches, or whatever. I don't do any of that either. I mean just being capable IF you were that hardcore a gamer. I play competitively ALONE, lol. Just trying to better myself. I could care less about everyone else.

I hear the HD558 has more bass than the HD598, so that may be better suited.

No. Any decent headphone will be fine vs other decent headphones. Just that it might be harder to focus on minute details with bassy cans over the ones that aren't as bassy. The DT990 Pros will still pick up the same sounds, just that the bass may/may not distract you.

You're overthinking it. The DT990s are well rounded for all purposes. I'd be more concerned about the soundcard possibly not having enough power to make the DT990s sing. Also, I found the 990 Pros WAY too bassy for my taste. This seems to be a problem only I have, and everyone else who has used them here has been fine with them. I'm sensitive to certain ranges in the mid bass, which is why it's probably worse for me than it may be for you.

 

I'll look into Titanium HD's amp. I really hope it's enough.

 

And well, it seems your competitiveness is the same as mine. That makes things easier.

From what you said, the DT990 would be a no-brainer then. Would be just as good as other more competitive cans with just a little more bass. That's exactly what I was looking for in a headphone. I'll just see to the card's power.

Since being distracted is very very subjective, it'll be a hit or miss. I'll just find out when I try those. Though since it'll be my first good headphone, I can very well adapt to them, can't I? Minimizing this issue. Also, if the bass doesn't overlap(forgot the term) other frequency ranges, that's fine to me.

And I can't say I am sensitive to certain ranges, because I have never had any good cans. So I can't say anything. But I like bass in music, for instance. Can't be sure what it'll be in games.

And yes, I overthink everything. Sorry for that.

But... in the end, from what you said, the DT990 may be my choice. I'll just look into some technical details to make sure.

 

Again, thank you very much. You were most helpful.


Edited by Carrek - 8/22/12 at 10:43pm
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Eric_C, nice informative post!

As far as the Q's being bass light, there are far more options for boosting bass than there are for treble control. I've been contemplating the E11 because of its low-ohm output and hight current (but not 3 Watts! DAAAYum MLE!), and it has two levels of bass boost. I find it interesting that the fiio e6 is rated above the amp section of the E7 by people who listen to both.

Also, I bought a 3 pack of Neewer lapel mics for $5 shipped, they arrived in like a week and my friends all said they could hear me great even with it clipped to my shirt. The guys who play with me often said I sounded clear and loud enough, but one of the guys mentioned that he almost didn't recognize my voice because I sounded so different, until I laughed. Im gonna send one to my buddy, and keep a spare. So consider that an Amazon option that ships a heck of a lot faster!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DJOIHE/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
Edited by Evshrug - 8/22/12 at 10:29pm
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I'll have to add something like a price range for the headphones, because, while I rate them based on their own merits relative to their price, you can't expect a 7 in competitive (KSC75), to compete with a 7 in a (HE400).

 

Will this do?

 

 

    Competitive? Fun? All-rounder?
<100 KSC 35     X
KSC 75     X
Creative Aurvana Live   X X
AD700 X    
200-250 DT990 Pro   X  
DT770   X  
PC360 X   X
HD598 X    
250-300 Q701 X   X
K701 X    
DT880   X X
300-400 Pro 900   X X
DT990 Premium X X X
HE-400   X X
HE-4   X X
Pro 2900 X X X
D7000 X X X
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Thread Starter 
Hmm, that looks great. Next time I'm on my comp I'll see where to situate that, though I also need to put the price range on the individual listtings.
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You can always use spoiler tags do, If you want to collapse a big list and make it look cleaner.  Like that post with all the camelcamelcamel links, it could all be grouped under an expandable spoiler tag.
 

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Or colour code the ones in the list you have - 

 

Competitive:

K701
Q701
HD598
PC360

AD700
Pro 2900
DT990 (600ohm) Premium model
D7000

 

>$100

>$100-250

>$250-300

>$300-400

>$400

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Thread Starter 
That's a bit too much for my eyes, lol.
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Nah, I'm not in favour of that approach. Forces the reader's eyes to dart up and down to check which colour corresponds to what. I tried to format the table in a way that would match a budget-centric thoughtflow: price range, headphones in increasing order of price (further down = more expensive, even within price ranges), then the competitive/fun/all-rounder question.

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Thread Starter 
I'm considering doing it by price range. I currently have them in the company's name (alpha list), which now that I think about it doesn't make much sense.
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Yep - looking at it now it does hurt a bit too much :)

 

edit: maybe if I used <blink>  </blink> it would have looked better


Edited by raband - 8/23/12 at 4:34am
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I'll look into Titanium HD's amp. I really hope it's enough.

 

And well, it seems your competitiveness is the same as mine. That makes things easier.

From what you said, the DT990 would be a no-brainer then. Would be just as good as other more competitive cans with just a little more bass. That's exactly what I was looking for in a headphone. I'll just see to the card's power.

Since being distracted is very very subjective, it'll be a hit or miss. I'll just find out when I try those. Though since it'll be my first good headphone, I can very well adapt to them, can't I? Minimizing this issue. Also, if the bass doesn't overlap(forgot the term) other frequency ranges, that's fine to me.

And I can't say I am sensitive to certain ranges, because I have never had any good cans. So I can't say anything. But I like bass in music, for instance. Can't be sure what it'll be in games.

And yes, I overthink everything. Sorry for that.

But... in the end, from what you said, the DT990 may be my choice. I'll just look into some technical details to make sure.

 

Again, thank you very much. You were most helpful.

 

I had the Titanium HD and the STX both installed in the same rig. I don't consider the THD to have enough power/amping for the DT990. I had the 600 Edition though.

 

The DT990 itself is a great choice for gaming, I would put it on the 1st place for immersive gaming. The T90 is the HD version. Can't recommend though unless you watch movies as well since most multiplatform games have their audio samples sized for the Xbox and its old DVD format, and all the others have to suffer for it. 

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The Titanium HD do not have a headphone amp I used to have one my self, creative need to fix their info on it. To remove that line form it. WIth the Titanium HD you will need to get a external amp if you have headphones that need power that card it self cant provoid. In this case that DT990 if its 250ohm or the 600ohm you would need to get one to get the most out of those headphones with the Titanium HD.

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I had the Titanium HD and the STX both installed in the same rig. I don't consider the THD to have enough power/amping for the DT990. I had the 600 Edition though.

 

The DT990 itself is a great choice for gaming, I would put it on the 1st place for immersive gaming. The T90 is the HD version. Can't recommend though unless you watch movies as well since most multiplatform games have their audio samples sized for the Xbox and its old DVD format, and all the others have to suffer for it. 

I don't watch a lot of movies actually, it's mostly gaming and a bit of music. Also, I'll only use it on the PC

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Originally Posted by genclaymore View Post

The Titanium HD do not have a headphone amp I used to have one my self, creative need to fix their info on it. To remove that line form it. WIth the Titanium HD you will need to get a external amp if you have headphones that need power that card it self cant provoid. In this case that DT990 if its 250ohm or the 600ohm you would need to get one to get the most out of those headphones with the Titanium HD.

Really? Well, that'll make me reconsider things. If I have to buy an external amp it'll be way expensiver than the HD558 alone. Thank you for the info.

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OK GUYS...convince me to do it.  Would you?  I found someone local selling a Harman Kardon AVR 335 in LIKE NEW condition for $200.  I'm seriously considering buying this unit.  It has Dolby Headphone AND I can hookup speakers to it and get some use out of it without being limited to headphones when I don't need it.  I'm liking this unit and I like HK and JBL products!

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OK GUYS...convince me to do it.  Would you?  I found someone local selling a Harman Kardon AVR 335 in LIKE NEW condition for $200.  I'm seriously considering buying this unit.  It has Dolby Headphone AND I can hookup speakers to it and get some use out of it without being limited to headphones when I don't need it.  I'm liking this unit and I like HK and JBL products!
Well, it's a decent Receiver... From 7 or 8 years ago. No HDMI, so a playstation or Xbox would have to be hooked up to it with composite (Red Blue Green) cables and an optical cable, and your TV has to accept composite too (no digital video connection or pass through conversion like found on Denons two years ago). Also looks large in size, sometimes the size of these components ends up mattering more than you expect, so measure your cabinet and make sure it has GREAT airflow for venting the heat.

It can work, but I think the $200 price is about average for the depreciation, and you can find many other deals around the same price. Hooking up speakers and headphones to multiple inputs and outputting video is an integrated amp, if you want to do more research (receiver name comes from FM radio receiver). It will do what you hope it does, but it's not anything special by today's standards for features or price.

Basically, I'm saying I had a "chance" to buy a receiver for $200, but I had to decide on the spot. I did, and I made it work, but I later realized that I can't afford a full surround sound setup with decent speakers yet, and I would've been better off getting a stereo integrated amp for now with a great headphone amp, and saved money for a really nice receiver when I get the income and space needed for a "proper" surround sound setup that wouldn't leave me disappointed. And believe me, if you are used to nice headphones, you are going to find a lot lacking in home-theater-in-a-box and entry-level speaker systems. I actually find it surprising how fast mainstream receivers depreciate in value.
Edited by Evshrug - 8/23/12 at 10:33am
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