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Now that I'm older, I realize was a disservice the later Tenchi series were to the characters. They made them so one dimensional. The original Tenchi Muyo was/is still the best. Kajishima Masaki ruined the original series with OAV3 though...
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Now that I'm older, I realize was a disservice the later Tenchi series were to the characters. They made them so one dimensional. The original Tenchi Muyo was/is still the best. Kajishima Masaki ruined the original series with OAV3 though...

 

I gave up before I got into OVA3. The original was what I fell in love with, and when I got my hands on Tenchi Universe I was ecstatic. But then came along Tenchi in Tokyo and to me that fell very short. The movies were hit and miss for me as well. But Tenchi will always be special to me as it was one of the first not-censored-for-television series that I saw. But alas, we're getting off topic. So to bring it slightly back, LOVE my Tenchi OSTs.

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AMD drivers are much better than they were back in 05-07 or whenever the 8800 came out. If you have the money then 680s all the way. I am not a bandwagon fan of the 670s like most people but for 400 bucks you can't beat it. (I love it when AMD and NVidia have price wars!) I'd say go for the 7970s GHz as they are much better than the 7950s for the price. It's also all on what you need and the games you play. The 680s do bench a bit better than the 7970s but then again they came out months afterward. I'd say compare benchmarks and prices and go with what you like. I recommend EVGA, XFX, Sapphire, ASUS, and MSI. Gigabyte isn't bad and Power Color are good budget cards. Galaxy is terrabad. Gigabyte makes good motherboards but their cards are okay. Some cards work better underwater than they do on air too. Come up with an idea, a price, and a list of games and I'll talk to a few PC buds of mine and get a  general consensus. 

 

Well, at least they're improving. However, there's also CUDA and PhysX GPU acceleration to consider...

 

Funny that you mention Galaxy being horrible, because guess who makes my highly non-reference (altered PCB and HSF) 8800 GT? It's still going strong to this day, unlike a lot of reference cards that must've cooked to death due to the single-slot HSF, though something is strange in that I can't control the fan speed at all through drivers.

 

That said, I think my next card's going to be EVGA, just because of the support and the general feeling that by the time I buy that GTX 670, the Maxwell cards are going to be around the corner and I'll want to utilize that Step-Up Program.

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Thanks for the reply, things are getting clearer smily_headphones1.gif
The ampli is a yamaha rx-v367 a bit old but ....
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Thanks again, i think i've really found the solution for all my problems! smily_headphones1.gif btw any way to directly control the volume of a headset if it doesn't have controls on cable? i hate audio controls on keyboards frown.gif and when gaming i can't go back and forth to desktop to adjust volumes smily_headphones1.gif
Thanks again!
We have the EXACT SAME Ampli/receiver! @o@
The CAL is fun, doesn't leak much sound out but by all reports it doesn't do great keeping the dog or wife quiet. Barking and similar is best blocked by canalphones or IEMs, such as made by Etymotic or Shure. Computer fans may be quieted enough by closed headphones, I'm not sure which does best at around the CAL!'s price (€).
I personally think keyboard audio controls are way better than going back and forth to the desktop, but a portable amp can give you a knob or buttons to adjust volume. An internal soundcard for your PC will already have its own amp, so... Unless you don't mind double amping, you may just have to get used to controlling the sound from the keyboard OR from the in-game settings menu. Of course, with the RX-V367, you can just use the remote control ^_~

... Uh, there are in-line gain-limiter controls you can buy that will allow you to turn down the volume, but... They hurt the sound quality. I wouldn't recommend them, you may feel different.
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Well, at least they're improving. However, there's also CUDA and PhysX GPU acceleration to consider...
Funny that you mention Galaxy being horrible, because guess who makes my highly non-reference (altered PCB and HSF) 8800 GT?
My GForce GTS 250 is also a galaxy! Might be the same card as yours though... Lol! The XTremeGamer overclocking software (or whatever it's called) that came with it allowed me to turn down the fan speed, though I think the latest NVidia driver helped too to tame the fan noise until it really needed it.
It's not the most powerful card, and I would also try to get a EVGA card to upgrade, but I don't really NEED an upgrade yet. I want the CUDA acceleration, and I still read about microstutter and textural glitches about new AMD cards. I would avoid crossfire. I was surprised with my GTS 250 how I didn't have to have everything on low to enjoy SW:TOR (before I realized that I couldn't just play it casually while playing other games), and I expect better-than-XBox360 visuals in Skyrim once I finally finish Oblivion.
Edited by Evshrug - 8/12/12 at 1:51am
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Ok guys let me know what your take on my next purchase. I'm thinking of picking up a Fiio e10. Not as an endgame solution but since the release of the ODA seems so far away, especially since no concrete date has been set, it may be an interim solution.

 

Perhaps one of the main reasons for getting the E10 is the fact that I has a coax out... I can understand Astro's decision to put in the coax, as it maximizes the amount of compatibility for the Mixamp. Someone mentioned before that their blu-ray player had no S/PDIF. However, NONE of my current devices have a coax out...thus I can utilize the Mixamp with both the Xbox and the PC. From what I've been reading SQ/DAC/amp functions are all good (the only widespread problem I've been hearing is the headphone out which I may/many not use). My only concern in the fact the E10 will be upstream of the Mixamp, thus acting like an preamp. Although I'm assuming that since its a digital connection that it should play well with the Mixamp. 


Edited by ruuku - 8/12/12 at 6:03am
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In short, do you think the E10 will pass surround channels to the Mixamp? I don't think so.

Early batches of E10s had headphone jack problems, but more recent reports indicate that is no longer a likely problem. However, many people report that the first 3/4 of a second of each song is cut off as well. These issues (and the fact that it can't be used solely as an amp) made me decide to pass.

If internal soundcard isn't an option (cheaper than E10 anyway), then maybe consider the Creative X-Fi Go! USB dongle? It's not audiophile quality, but it does have DH, OpenAL, and EAX support. Tempting at $25 on Amazon.
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Thanks for the reply Evshrug!

Sorry I should have clarified... and actually I'm an bit shaky in how the the D/A Processing would work on this.... the setup would look like this:

PC-->E10(Line Out)-->Receiver (Wondering how badly the receiver's own DAC would affect SQ...from what I've found out there's now way to bypass the DAC in my receiver unless its doing it without my knowledge, say in normal modes; then again, considering my receiver doesn't even have digital inputs does it even have a DAC? Edit: on thinking about it I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a DAC) 

PC-->E10(Coax)-->Mixamp

Xbox/PS3(S/PDIF)-->Mixamp

 

The main reason in purchasing the E10 would be from some audible clipping/static/distortion (Music) of higher freqs...even on high quality FLAC. I'm pretty sure the E10 should carry the surround effectively into the Mixamp, but am not certain. 

 

Earlier on was was looking at sound cards as this is definitely an option seeing as i have free PCI-e ports, but decided that cost vs performance I would probably be better to just look at a dedicated DAC/amp. Plus I really like the option of having a pot to adjust volume, Which is why the receiver is acting as my main amp right now.  

 

I may just end of ditching this old receiver and looking for something that has a little more functionality. HK/Yamaha seem like a good choice... If I end up purchasing a DH/SC capable receiver (I would still like to keep my speakers)  is it even worth it looking for a dedicated dac/amp combo for HP use? Sorry I know this is kind of off topic... 


Edited by ruuku - 8/12/12 at 8:18am
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Broke down and bought a wired mixamp on ebay for $55 since I was getting tired of wearing the xbox wireless mic under my 2900. I'll be working on a wireless solution later so I wont have to have the chat cable connected to my controller.

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Calpis did you ever get the Korea IPS? I bought one off ebay, and so far is pretty stellar. I went for the LED backlit crossover (MDP 27) so it wasn't so budget-priced, but I'm pretty impressed as it has more i/o than the Dell Ultrasharps and the same resolutions/color range/response times. 

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Going to hold off on getting a Korean ips for now because game releases has started already. I'm also waiting a little bit for some US based companies to start selling them here. There was one that I read about either on TheVerge or on engadget.
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Sorry I should have clarified... and actually I'm an bit shaky in how the the D/A Processing would work on this.... the setup would look like this:

 

PC-->E10(Line Out)-->Receiver (Wondering how badly the receiver's own DAC would affect SQ...from what I've found out there's now way to bypass the DAC in my receiver unless its doing it without my knowledge, say in normal modes; then again, considering my receiver doesn't even have digital inputs does it even have a DAC? Edit: on thinking about it I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a DAC) 

 

By taking the analog line out from the E10 into the analog input of the receiver, you've already bypassed the receivers DAC.  The digital signal was already converted into analog by the E10, and the receiver is just amplifying the E10's analog signal.

 

PC-->E10(Coax)-->Mixamp

 

I'm not sure if that setup ^ works.  I've never tried using the coax out on my E10, or the Coax in on the mixamp to see if it works correctly.  The FiiO E10 manual says "Coaxial Out:  Stereo PCM .... Output stereo PCM digital audio..."  - so I have a feeling it wouldn't work with the mixamp to generate surround sound.

 

Xbox/PS3(S/PDIF)-->Mixamp

 

This is the best way to use the mixamp.

 

The main reason in purchasing the E10 would be from some audible clipping/static/distortion (Music) of higher freqs...even on high quality FLAC. I'm pretty sure the E10 should carry the surround effectively into the Mixamp, but am not certain. 

 

IMO the best use for the E10 is pairing it with a laptop, and letting it simply act as an external upgrade to a Laptops internal soundcard (DAC and amp).  The lack of analog inputs on the E10 means that IT has to be starting point in your chain (which means you can't pair it with any surround sound devices as it can't send any >2-channel stereo signals, or accept any analog signals) and it has to be hooked to your computer via USB all the time.

 

 

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Thanks chicolom,

its nice to get results from an owner, I totally understand that at this price point I'm not going to be getting the best sq, but one also has to figure in cost/performance as well. If the coax connection doesn't carry  the dolby signal then I'll probably just get a S/PDIF switch. I know MLE hasn't been getting good results of a passive switch but this looks hopeful: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003C15798/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller= that way at least I can hook up the PS3, XBox & PC without having to change the plugs. 

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That's hell expensive, and I want one. frown.gif
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Pics make the first post real purdy to look at MLE. Good job.

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Heres a manual one http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042302&p_id=2946&seq=1&format=2 that's cheaper. sure it doesn't have 5 plugs on it and doesn't have a remote.

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