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The links don't work for some reason.
Hell, I hang around simply because I like to help, though there have been a few times when I've taken breaks for months. It depends on where I work. I tend to post a lot when I have a lot of free time at work, though I do post a lot while at home and listening to music.

Interesting, tried the links from my home computer, they don't work on my computer either. Seems the only way to get to the page is to literally google the headphone and click through the shopping portal. It's too sketchy to believe anyway.

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Yeah, only buy new headphones from authorized dealers.

Well, it seems the HE400 can be ran off the Vita, but at max volume, it's still low level listening. I have no doubts an ipod can play them loudly though. The Vita has a pretty weak internal amp.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/25/12 at 11:51pm
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Both the Vita and 3DS are pretty weak. I plugged in the 3DS at full volume into my mstage to play Theatrhythm and still had to turn up the volume way above what I have the knob setup for my pc.I was like around 85% volume on the mstage when I usually have it at around 40-50% for pc use.

 

Also, I have a feeling that I'd enjoy the HE400 a lot (I love the ortho sound) and could get them by selling off a few of my headphones but I'm looking at those 27" korean ips monitors right now  and they're in the same price range :/

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calpis! Yeah. You would definitely love the HE400. Sell that Pro 2900 and get the HE400 (and velours)! You won't look back! biggrin.gif

Man, I really want a clamshell type 1080p screen. Just waiting on a company to make one. Like a laptop without the actual computer guts, and hdmi inputs. No, not that GAEMS nonsense.

If/when portable Blu-Ray players come out with 1080p screens and HDMI inputs, I'm sold.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/26/12 at 12:30am
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The thing I started doing was wearing the older style Microsoft wireless mics and wearing my 2900 over it. I do get a little pain on my ear lobe after like am hour though. I also started hooking up my receiver's headphones jack to mstage for some added oomph.
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Man, the vocals on the HE400 are like WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than on the Pro 900. I mean... DAMN. I know I've said that I don't mind sacrificing mids a little for more bass, but when mids are this good... it's hard to sit here and say that with a straight face. The vocals are SWEET.

But when I play my mostly instrumental tracks... man something about the Pro 900's bass that just makes them so worthwhile. biggrin.gif

I'm sitting here, really should be sleeping... but it's hard to put these down. ph34r.gif

My HE400 with velours... man, these things are ALIVE and swinging for the fences.

Hearing them side by side with the Pro 900, and they sound infinitely more airy than the Pro 900. There is the perfect amount of sparkle, where the Pro 900 has a metallic twinge to it's treble at it's extreme upper end. Those who know me, know that I'm a bit of a treblehead (I loved my DT990s which are like super treble heavy), and I don't find the treble to be dark at all on the HE400, just more realistic.

The vocals are so lovely, it makes the Pro 900's vocals seem like they're coming from the other end of the street. It's crazy what a difference there is in the mids.

The bass is surely not close to the Pro 900s or D7000s, but man, it's what I consider just right where it should be for reference cans. Like this is how I feel that this is where bass is mastered. It's not lacking technically, and can hit right when a song calls for it.


I don't know how these are 'dark', but I'm not hearing it. Perhaps with the pleather pads, they were certainly warmer and less airy, but not with the velours. The clarity was definitely improved, and with it came a slight tonal shift towards more brightness than with the stock pads, yet still wonderfully organic and meaty.

There is so much air and space in the instruments, I have no problems with it's soundstage either.

Honestly, I don't think I could go back to dynamics after this. Planar magnetics just have this.. sound...it's awe-inspiring. Like having speakers strapped to your head, and not like a standard headphone. I was in awe with the HE-4 back when I had them, but I surely must have forgot down the line just how superior planars are in portraying sound than dynamics.

Oh yes, I listen moderately high (not extremely so), and I guess at lower volumes it can sound darker than how I'm describing, yet still magnificent.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/26/12 at 2:27am
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I told you you would like them and notice the pad differences. :D

 

T90 Tesla Power!

 

Didn't have much time. Tonight I will be testing this thing thoroughly.

 

What I noticed from the first hour. Very comfortable and well built. Extremely detailed representation with huge soundstage. Bass goes lower than DT990, in fact I don't consider it fair to compare this with the DT990 as they simply do not match these headphones except being noticable for midbass. More later.

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Excels at midrange and vocals? Now I have to audition the HE-400 at some point. It's like you're trying to get me to buy it! (But at $400, I could just buy another SR-Lambda...)

 

My only concern is long-term comfort; it's said that they're a bit heavy, albeit not Audez'e heavy. Is this the sort of headphone you could wear for hours on end?

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The vocals aren't forward, its right where it should be, I'd say. If anything can be said about the HE400 (with velours), its that its very natural sounding, but exciting. Simply has to be heard to be believed. Not neutral, NATURAL. If you have $420 for the cans and the velours, I highly doubt anything compares.
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The vocals aren't forward, its right where it should be, I'd say. If anything can be said about the HE400 (with velours), its that its very natural sounding, but exciting. Simply has to be heard to be believed. Not neutral, NATURAL. If you have $420 for the cans and the velours, I highly doubt anything compares.

 

AFAIK just buy the cans for $400, and then immediately send Head Direct customer service an email requesting them to ship your pair with velours instead of pleather, and they will comply. No need to spend the extra bucks. (Assuming the purchase is straight from Head Direct and not from online retailers)

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I would have done that, but I bought them off Moon Audio, with a temp coupon code.

At least I was able to compare the sonic differences in the pleather vs velour.

To clarify on the HE400's mids... they are the most realistic vocals I have heard on any phone. Seriously. Its incredible to hear.

Sure, some phones like the HD598, ESW9 have forward mids, but it was unnaturally up front. The HE400s places it in front of you, but not in your face. The Q701 has lovely, natural mids too (slight more forward, but not unnaturally so), but not as full bodied as the HE400.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/26/12 at 4:06pm
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So what are some drawbacks to the HE400s? All I've seen so far is praise but there must be a catch

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First, it's not exactly lightweight. It's quite hefty. However, the style of headband that it has, evenly distributes the weight so there is no real pressure to the head. It can be worn comfortably all day. Still, it is heavy and you will notice this when holding them.

Second, while they aren't too hard to drive, they definitely scale with amping. You will want a good amp for these to get the most out of them, like the Q701. These can push out a LOT of air. If you hold them a little bit away from your ears the bass actually gets STRONGER. It's crazy. For that air, you need some strong juice.

Third, the stock pads hide what actual quality these can bring to the table. You absolutely want to buy the velours (or order the velours when purchasing the HE400 off Hifiman... contact them to see if they will swap the pads beforehand for free). This isn't even about comfort. The velours really do bring out a better sense of air and clarity, without sacrificing bass or mids whatsoever. The extra benefit is velour comfort >>>>>> pleather.

Fourth, They're not cheap? Lol.

Fifth, Anything slightly covering the grills will affect SQ. Like even putting your hands NEAR the grills without actually touching them will alter SQ, so these aren't 'lay down on the bed with a fluffy pillow' type of headphone, as the pillow may partially block the grills. I have never heard an open headphone alter it's sound so much when covering the grills.


Honestly, I can't say enough about how amazing they are. I have become an absolute fan of the HE400. They are just fantastic all around. I know how I always say I'm keeping a headphone and end up selling them over some issue. I can say that the only way I'll sell the HE400 is if Hifiman brings out a more bassy planar magnetic, and even then, I'd probably keep these as my balanced all arounder and sell off the Pro 900. That's not even a real issue, but personal preference. The bass in the HE400 is NOT lacking.

I honestly believe the Pro 900 is the last dynamic I will ever buy. Once you go planar magnetic, it's very hard to go back.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/26/12 at 7:52pm
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The vocals aren't forward, its right where it should be, I'd say. If anything can be said about the HE400 (with velours), its that its very natural sounding, but exciting. Simply has to be heard to be believed. Not neutral, NATURAL. If you have $420 for the cans and the velours, I highly doubt anything compares.

 

I don't have too many other headphones to compare to, but the immediate thing I noticed when comparing the SR-Lambda and SR-202 (albeit from different amplification systems due to the different bias voltages used) was that on the SR-202, the vocals suddenly fell back into the music. It took an EQ boost around the 1 KHz region to get the vocals to stand out a bit more, but it still didn't really sound "right" to me, in no small part due to this somewhat harsh texture the SR-Lambda didn't have. That's probably what turned me into a midrange-head/vocalhead right there, and revealed part of what I initially thought was just general electrostatic clarity and effortlessness at work.

 

However, that doesn't mean the midrange on the SR-Lambda really jumped out in front of the bass and treble, either, at least not to my ears. While vocals stand out a bit to where I can easily listen to what's being said, it doesn't make the rest of the music fall behind by comparison. It's just in the right place to me. Is it neutral or realistic? I have no idea, but I like it! Frankly, I doubt anything compares.

 

But if the HE-400 can compare, I'd sure like to know first-hand. I haven't sworn off non-electrostatic models entirely, and orthodynamics are similar in principle with their planar drivers, just with electromagnetic force.

 

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So what are some drawbacks to the HE400s? All I've seen so far is praise but there must be a catch

 

I'd also like to know, though $400 MSRP is a pretty big catch as it is.

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I'd like to try some Electrostats at some point. I believe I'm 100% done with dynamics, lol. Though I may make an exception for Tesla drivers in the Beyer Txx-line.

But yes, the HE400's vocals are right in with the music, but very liquid and focused. It's not as forward as the Q701 (not a big difference, maybe 5%), but slightly more integrated, and more organic. Trust me, the mids are beautiful. On some songs, the mids are definitely forward.

The vocals are definitely intimate and forward with the HE400.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/26/12 at 8:11pm
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