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I know that Joe (akaTRENT) did a review on Engadget. Seems to have some issues with audio cutting in and out, which isn't an issue with the 5.8.

Also, It's not the same exact thing as the 5.8. It's using KLEER technology, instead of whatever the 5.8 used. Sad, considering the 5.8's wireless tech was damn good.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/25/12 at 6:28pm
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Dang, I must have missed that. Thanks MLE.

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Here's one review of the A50 which I only glossed over.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/23/3168539/astro-a50-wireless-gaming-headset-review

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Wait... Skullcandy is Astro's new parent company?

eek.gif

And again they decide to not add in a second toslink input. WTF is wrong with them? Jesus.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/25/12 at 6:48pm
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Wait... Skullcandy is Astro's new parent company?
eek.gif
And again they decide to not add in a second toslink input. WTF is wrong with them? Jesus.

That's like when I found out Ultrasone made an Alienware headset :P

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I guess the AD700 has deep bass extension then.  biggrin.gif
Yes, I can hear deep bass notes in my AD700 that were simply inaudible on typical listening devices such as apple earbuds or laptop speakers. Is it strong bass? Definitely no, the AD700s are bass light. And I wouldn't recommend them to a basshead. Do you really disagree with any of that, or was the glib remark simply a reaction to a different perspective? That's rhetorical, I don't really care, so let's not start something hmm?

Tane,
Try the headphone first with your current setup, and see if it works well enough for you. I asked before, and I think the optical out is sending a digital signal to your Mixamp, so a new soundcard should have little effect. NamelessPFG knows this better than I though, maybe he can clarify.

Mad,
I'm not seriously considering another headphone today, still gotta clear out the non-keepers and I'm still settling in to the satisfying upgrade to the Q701, but what kind of price is expected for those HE400s? I ask because I found an offer that seems too good to be true: http://tgas.winbootsugg.com/hifiman-he400-planar-driver-high-efficiency-headphones-electronics_p374.html?offer_id=B007ZG32I4
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I got mine for $360 off Moon Audio with a coupon someone gave me (expired). The velour pads cost me $15 shipped, and shipping was like $18 (3 day shipping).

They are usually $400 though.

The link doesn't work.

And don't feel too bad. I highly doubt they can compare to the Q701 in terms of positional cues, air, and competitive gaming.

I'm gonna venture a guess and say they are about a 7 for competitive, 8 for fun, just off what I heard of their signature in music, and soundstage size.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/25/12 at 7:06pm
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It's the third and fourth link when you google he 400 headphone and click shopping, does this link work for you? http://lens.winbootsugg.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1248&offer_id=B007TM58BI
It loaded slow for me... but it says the price is Under $150 :O
Maybe it has like $200 shipping charges, lol! biggrin.gif


Edit: oh I don't feel bad at all, I'm very pleased with the Q's! I don't need to hang around anymore, but I'm just curious about the headphone gaming thread's developments smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by Evshrug - 7/25/12 at 7:12pm
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The links don't work for some reason.

Hell, I hang around simply because I like to help, though there have been a few times when I've taken breaks for months. It depends on where I work. I tend to post a lot when I have a lot of free time at work, though I do post a lot while at home and listening to music.
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Yes, I can hear deep bass notes in my AD700 that were simply inaudible on typical listening devices such as apple earbuds or laptop speakers. Is it strong bass? Definitely no, the AD700s are bass light. And I wouldn't recommend them to a basshead. Do you really disagree with any of that, or was the glib remark simply a reaction to a different perspective? That's rhetorical, I don't really care, so let's not start something hmm?
 

 

 

It was a little of a satyrical remark, but nothing to be taken irritably.  Just a little funny that our definitions differ so much.  For what it's worth, even an apple earbud can probably extend down to 20hz, but maybe at like -40db.  A bookshelf speaker rated at 50hz on a +/- 3db basis could probably do the same as well, but again, at a very low volume.  I like my bass extension with the same relative linearity.  There's a difference between strong bass and extension in my book as well, like a Grado, known for its punchy and strong mid-bass but has a large sub-bass rolloff.  A also happen to think the AD700s have a pretty acceptable mid-bass as well, it's very tight and controlled, present, but not very visceral.

 

Anyways, semantics aside.  I hope the HE-400 has at least one or two points higher somewhere than the HE-4!  7 for competitive and 8 for fun is what the HE-4 got, but I remember a good part of that 7 was based off just how hard it was to get sufficient volume out of the HE-4 with the mixamp.

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Well, I'm not comparing scores, rather it's own merits. It takes a lot to get an 8. The Hifimans don't tend to have the best soundstage, which keep it from getting a great score for competitive, rather stay between good and great. perhaps a 7.5 is coming.

My 7's are 'Good'.

The online community as a whole seem to think anything below an 8 is mediocre. I don't judge that way. 6 is decent, 7 is good, 8 is great, 9 is fantastic.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/25/12 at 9:16pm
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I dig that rating system too.  

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Hmm, looks like the HE400 might be a 8.5 for both!

Too early to tell, but signs are VERY promising.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/25/12 at 8:29pm
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How's the volume for you out of the mixamp?  The jump to 8.5, =O  What's making them perform so well in gaming?  I havn't tired them exclusively for gaming yet since I sold my mixamp a while back to a friend.

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The volume is fine. About as much as I usually need out of the Pro 900, maybe just a little more.

The HE400 so far has shown to be very well balanced for gaming and very, VERY detailed. The treble is also crisp, but non-fatiguing. The bass is powerful when called for, making them just phenomenal for all forms of gaming. The positioning in Black Ops, so far has been absolutely spot on, and it really does pair well with Dolby headphone.

This is the headphone that the DT880s SHOULD have been, if they got positioning right.

So yes, this may very well be the best open balanced headphone I have used that more than satisfies for every single purpose without any actual tradeoffs (no lack of bass, mids, or treble) or any issues (harshness, boominess, etc).

This sounds like a glowing impression. So far, it's glowing for a reason. I haven't heard a headphone that has absolutely no issues when gaming. I mean ZERO.

You know how the PC360 is well balanced though isn't exactly exciting? Well, the HE400 is well balanced AND very exciting. It's like the PC360 to the 10th power.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/25/12 at 9:18pm
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