or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Misc.-Category Forums › Video Games Discussion › Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (3/18/2016: MrSpeakers Ether C 1.1 Added)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (3/18/2016: MrSpeakers Ether C 1.1 Added) - Page 429

post #6421 of 37463

I like the HE-500 more. It's more refined and precise to me and thanks to planar it's extremely fast. You can listen to Metal or Hardcore, anything. However voices kill the HE-400, the HE-500 is a goddess. It's hard not to hype and not to use pathetic descriptions like this one. :D The only thing the LCD-2 made better for me was the bass (the best I heard) but it has noticably less soundstage and I don't like that at all.

 

What's the price difference between HE-400 and HE-500 over there (or for you?).

post #6422 of 37463
Thread Starter 
$300. I want whatever has more bass, as I'm sure the HE400's vocals will be fine. I'm not a vocalhead. I'm more of a bass and treblehead, though I can sacrifice just a smidge bit of treble. However, for these kind of cans, I do not want a big loss of bass. Which has more bass?

I'm honestly not interested in the HE500s anyways. Not unless they were in the $500 range.
post #6423 of 37463

HE-400 has more boom in the bass or let's say more presence but HE-500 goes lower. Soundstage is smaller than HE-500 and it lacks its highs and mids (still great though). In terms of bass you will like them for sure, not sure about the treble but you've decided pretty much anyway. Looking forward to your impressions.

post #6424 of 37463
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I'll probably be getting the HE400s very soon. The velours are only from the Hifiman website right?
post #6425 of 37463

Hi everyone  well I just couldn't wait anymore I went and bought the Sennheiser HD 380 Pro. I am highly impressed with them so far only been using them for a few hours but they sound great so far. I only have one problem I think I am not pushing them to there full potential. I have them connected to my PC's stock sound card and set full volume and they don't sound that loud. They sounded allot louder at the store and a bit better so I would like to know what sound card or device would I need to buy to get the full potential out of them ?

 

Thanks


Edited by dentnu - 7/17/12 at 3:39pm
post #6426 of 37463
Thread Starter 
HE400 ordered from Head-Direct through Amazon, and ordered the velours directly from head-direct.

No turning back now... ph34r.gif

Depending on how well they do... I might return the Pro 900s, if I feel like the HE400 satisfies my every need. Not that I think they will.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/17/12 at 3:54pm
post #6427 of 37463

dentnu: You want an amp. Cheapest, cleanest one I can think of is Fiio E6--about $20 from Amazon. It's good (used to own one), but I don't know how powerful it is for big headphones like the 380.

 

There are more powerful amps, but they may alter the sound, which you may not like.

The next step up is probably Objective 2 (aka O2)--you can DIY for <$100 with parts from JDS Labs, or buy it assembled at $144 from them.

post #6428 of 37463
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_C View Post

dentnu: You want an amp. Cheapest, cleanest one I can think of is Fiio E6--about $20 from Amazon. It's good (used to own one), but I don't know how powerful it is for big headphones like the 380.

 

There are more powerful amps, but they may alter the sound, which you may not like.

The next step up is probably Objective 2 (aka O2)--you can DIY for <$100 with parts from JDS Labs, or buy it assembled at $144 from them

 

Thanks Eric_C  for the reply. How can I find out if the Fiio E6 will be powerful enough for my 380 HD it would be great if someone knows if they can please can shed some light on this. Now the 02 looks like a winner so if the Fiio E6 is not powerful enough I will get them. I was also looking at the Mixamp Pro will that also work and is it better than the 02 and the Fiio E6 ? I really want to get the full potential out of my new 380 HD Pro so it would be great if someone can please let me know which one of those would give me the best sound.

 

Thanks     


Edited by dentnu - 7/17/12 at 8:50pm
post #6429 of 37463
Thread Starter 
The O2 should be a ginormous leap over the E6, and it'd be what I'd get in your position. Oh yes, you don't seem to have a good dac or soundcard, so perhaps invest in one too. Depends on what you can afford. If I didn't have anything, I'd go for the ODAC and O2. For cheap, the Fiio D3 is a solid dac for less than $30. It's optical input only though. The USB is for power only.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/17/12 at 8:54pm
post #6430 of 37463

^ Definitely agree with MLE here.

 

What you should get is the O2--based on a lot of consistent praise from many many people, it is the best amp you can get for that price. 

Worry about the rest later--there's a bunch of technical details to discuss before you go off buying a MixAmp or sound card, please don't rush into it.

post #6431 of 37463
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The O2 should be a ginormous leap over the E6, and it'd be what I'd get in your position. Oh yes, you don't seem to have a good dac or soundcard, so perhaps invest in one too. Depends on what you can afford. If I didn't have anything, I'd go for the ODAC and O2. For cheap, the Fiio D3 is a solid dac for less than $30. It's optical input only though. The USB is for power only.

Doesn't the Mixamp have a DAC section (digital to analogue converter, basically what your sound card does) that activates when you connect with an Optical cable and PCM signal?

Well anyway, E6 should be loud enough, but the extra muscle of a more powerful amp like the O2 presents audio more gracefully on larger headphones. Dentu, you may not feel like you're missing anything with the E6 vs O2, unless you try them side-by side or you've amassed experience detecting what effect different amps can have.

It's like a good enough amp will make your music play loud enough, and the remaining difference is like 10% sound quality. Some people are more sensitive to that difference than others. For me, my reference setup vs iPod with stock buds is like the difference between 7th grade orchestra performing Beethoven in the auditorium vs the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra performing the same song in their music ampitheater. Other people listen to the radio and CDs on a boombox and don't think anything about it.

So with your computer as source and assuming you won't use a portable player, I say get a better sound card, FiiO E10, or an Objective 2 amp + FiiO D3 DAC or similar, in order of what I think is better and better SQ. I personally think an external solution has better sound quality than a sound card, cheaper too as a bonus.

Edit: Asus Xonar U1 vs FiiO E10 review on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/review/R3BR4D67AUF6V4/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B005VO7LG6&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=
Edited by Evshrug - 7/17/12 at 11:12pm
post #6432 of 37463
Thread Starter 
I didn't know what he wants. If its for gaming, I'd get a good soundcard. The Mixamp is only for those that are gonna use it ever outside of pc use. Since I don't game on pc, the mixamp is good.

Lol, I think my Pro 900 is already crackling on the right driver. Not good. Might have to ask for a replacement. Not sure yet. It crackled on songs that never crackled before.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/17/12 at 10:42pm
post #6433 of 37463
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


Doesn't the Mixamp have a DAC section (digital to analogue converter, basically what your sound card does) that activates when you connect with an Optical cable and PCM signal?
Well anyway, E6 should be loud enough, but the extra muscle of a more powerful amp like the O2 presents audio more gracefully on larger headphones. Dentu, you may not feel like you're missing anything with the E6 vs O2, unless you try them side-by side or you've amassed experience detecting what effect different amps can have.
It's like a good enough amp will make your music play loud enough, and the remaining difference is like 10% sound quality. Some people are more sensitive to that difference than others. For me, my reference setup vs iPod with stock buds is like the difference between 7th grade orchestra performing Beethoven in the auditorium vs the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra performing the same song in their music ampitheater. Other people listen to the radio and CDs on a boombox and don't think anything about it.
So with your computer as source and assuming you won't use a portable player, I say get a better sound card, FiiO E7, or an Objective 2 amp + FiiO D3 DAC or similar, in order of what I think is better and better SQ. I personally think an external solution has better sound quality than a sound card, cheaper too as a bonus.

 

MixAmp + PC needs the signal that gets fed into from the sound card--and not all sound cards will output a 7.1 signal for the MixAmp to downmix (some stock cards may only output 2.0), so that defeats the point of a MixAmp already. This is why I advise dentu to stay away from considering any DAC for the time being. Alternatively he might get a sound card that does what the MixAmp does, negating the MixAmp's necessity entirely.

 

E6 vs O2: nevermind "good" amping, the O2 should surely amp louder than the E6. Since both amps are well regarded as neutral, and dentu's complaint is his headphones play too softly, I figure the O2 is the safer bet.

post #6434 of 37463
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I didn't know what he wants. If its for gaming, I'd get a good soundcard. The Mixamp is only for those that are gonna use it ever outside of pc use. Since I don't game on pc, the mixamp is good.
Lol, I think my Pro 900 is already crackling on the right driver. Not good. Might have to ask for a replacement. Not sure yet. It crackled on songs that never crackled before.
I never understood why one would get an internal sound card for a Pc unless they want a clean desktop; paying for more electronic shielding to reduce noise is apparently still not as clean as an external DAC, which probably would outlive the computer. Is it for software EQ and decoder processing?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_C View Post

MixAmp + PC needs the signal that gets fed into from the sound card--and not all sound cards will output a 7.1 signal for the MixAmp to downmix (some stock cards may only output 2.0), so that defeats the point of a MixAmp already. This is why I advise dentu to stay away from considering any DAC for the time being. Alternatively he might get a sound card that does what the MixAmp does, negating the MixAmp's necessity entirely.

E6 vs O2: nevermind "good" amping, the O2 should surely amp louder than the E6. Since both amps are well regarded as neutral, and dentu's complaint is his headphones play too softly, I figure the O2 is the safer bet.

Well the O2 certainly has plenty of power, I was just speaking from my experience in my AKG's ability to be driven pretty loud off the older E5.

About the Mixamp, I don't know how well it can be integrated into computer use. Sorta why I asked about the Mixamp's DAC before, and didn't recommend it. I thought most DACs bypass the computer's sound card completely, maybe thats only the ones with USB. I think I might be confusing the issue for dentu, sorry, so I'm just going to sleep. G'night all.
Edited by Evshrug - 7/17/12 at 11:04pm
post #6435 of 37463
Thread Starter 
Hmm its not crackling anymore. They were crackling when playing music on the Vita. Must've been a lack of juice or something.

Hmm... I'm enjoying them a lot more now. I changed my NFB5's filter to 8, which is the most linear setting, with no real treble roll off. Dunno if it's placebo, but it does sound better now. Been using them aaaaaall day.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/18/12 at 12:26am
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Games Discussion
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Misc.-Category Forums › Video Games Discussion › Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (3/18/2016: MrSpeakers Ether C 1.1 Added)