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So which fun, comfortable, recreational gaming headphones would you recommend if I'm not using an Amp?

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Originally Posted by Timobkg View Post

Excuse my newbness, but could you guys explain how open, semi-open, and closed headphones are in real life? If using open headphones, can everyone else in the room with me really hear what I'm hearing the same as if I was using speakers or something, thus defeating the point of me using headphones? If using closed headphones, would I still be able to chat with my wife sitting 4 feet behind me, or would it isolate so much that we have to use Vent even in the same room?

 

Any advice to how the CAL! would compare to the Samson SR850/Superlux HD668B + AKG velour pads, since they come out to be about the same price? 

 

I'd honestly only use the headphones for gaming, and maybe the occasional movie / anime. I'm not an audiophile, so I don't want to spend more than I have to, but don't mind spending more for a better product that will make me happier in the end.  What would I gain stepping up from something like the CAL! to the DT 770 Pro 80?

I'm thinking it might better to replace your current sound card with the Creative Recon3D PCI-E ($80), it comes with a back panel with separate headphone jack from the three analog speaker output jacks.

Or get the Asus Xonar DG ($25), the headphone amp. can be used with the cases front headphone jack.

 

The Samosn SR850 (made by Superlux) is only $50 and it's $15 for velvet ears pads (eBay)

AKG Velour ear pads that fit the SR850 are $46 in the USA.

 

The CALs (Creative Aurvana Live) are good sounding headphones, but the cups are small, barely fit around my ears and the diaphragm seems to sit about 1mm from my ear.

Not something I can wear for long periods of time, like 15 to 30 minutes.

It's like the sound is too concentrated for my ears, but that could be because I have almost 48 year old ears.....Wow, I just realized it's only 14 years until I can start collecting Social Security.


Edited by PurpleAngel - 7/8/12 at 10:58am
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I like the Creative Aurvana Live. Dunno about anyone else, but the CALs are incredibly comfortable, even if they come with pleather pads. Seriously. It's not like they press on to your ears hard. Sure your ears aren't completely free, but the CALs are just resting on them, not forcing them down. Asides from it getting hot, I can wear them all day.
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Man, headphone shopping is a lot harder than I would have thought.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

The Samosn SR850 (made by Superlux) is only $50 and it's $15 for velvet ears pads (eBay)

AKG Velour ear pads that fit the SR850 are $46 in the USA.

 

The CALs (Creative Aurvana Live) are good sounding headphones, but the cups are small, barely fit around my ears and the diaphragm seems to sit about 1mm from my ear.

Not something I can wear for long periods of time, like 15 to 30 minutes.

So it sounds like the comfort of the SR850 compared to the CALs varies person to person. Would I be correct in assuming that the CALs would have better sound / spacial positioning? Are there replacement non-pleather pads for the CALs?

 

If I used the DT 770 Pro 80 without a headphone amp, would they sound worse than the CAL or SR850 / HD668B?

 

In regard to open vs closed headphones, could someone clarify the following for me: If using open headphones, can everyone else in the room with me really hear what I'm hearing the same as if I was using speakers or something, thus defeating the point of me using headphones? If using closed headphones, would I still be able to chat with my wife sitting 4 feet behind me, or would it isolate so much that we have to use Vent even in the same room?

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Thread Starter 
Open headphones can be heard, but nothing like a speaker. It's just background noise in a quiet room.

Even with an open headphone, and listening to something at a moderate level, you won't really be able to talk to anyone.

Even the worst closed headphones in isolation (CAL, Denons), you will want to take off your headphones to talk to someone.

You guys are overthinking your purchases too much. Most of these headphones will make most of you happy.
post #6216 of 37450
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Originally Posted by Timobkg View Post

Man, headphone shopping is a lot harder than I would have thought.

So it sounds like the comfort of the SR850 compared to the CALs varies person to person. Would I be correct in assuming that the CALs would have better sound / spacial positioning? Are there replacement non-pleather pads for the CALs?

 

If I used the DT 770 Pro 80 without a headphone amp, would they sound worse than the CAL or SR850 / HD668B?

 

In regard to open vs closed headphones, could someone clarify the following for me: If using open headphones, can everyone else in the room with me really hear what I'm hearing the same as if I was using speakers or something, thus defeating the point of me using headphones? If using closed headphones, would I still be able to chat with my wife sitting 4 feet behind me, or would it isolate so much that we have to use Vent even in the same room?

Usually open headphone have advantages over closed headphones, I would assume with closed headphones, your getting unwanted sound bouncing around inside the cups.

There many in the world that like their CALs more then me and if it works for them, great.

Open and semi-open can be heard from people around you, does not mean it loud enough to will bother them.

SR850s are semi-open, so you could say their openness is only, let say 20% compared to a full open headphone.

With closed headphones, you should still be able to hear someone talking to you from 4 feet away, if they speak loud enough (shout), and your headphone volume is really low, if they are facing away and whispering, that's another story.

With semi-open headphones, it will be easier to hear them.


Edited by PurpleAngel - 7/8/12 at 3:00pm
post #6217 of 37450
Thread Starter 
One thing to add, I liked the CAL about as much as the DT770 pro 80, and the CAL doesn't need an amp at all.
post #6218 of 37450
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

One thing to add, I liked the CAL about as much as the DT770 pro 80, and the CAL doesn't need an amp at all.

I though my CALs gave My DT770 Pro 80-Ohm some good competition.

post #6219 of 37450
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Exactly. For those not wanting to worry about getting the most out of their headphones, the CAL is a very fair priced, and easy to drive headphone that does gaming, music, and comfort well. It's a perfect headphone to start with, and possibly end up with. I have tested many a headphone, as you all know, and the CAL is still among my very faves.

edit: seems I forgot to add it to the top lists for all-arounders. The CALs deserve a spot.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/8/12 at 3:12pm
post #6220 of 37450
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

I though my CALs gave My DT770 Pro 80-Ohm some good competition.

I would like to try the CALs, and would buy them if I could find them for the same price they sell in the US. I can get them off amazon. I would be at 200bucks by then with taxes+shipping+duty. I am at DT770pros level. When something like this happens I just keep chanting (socialized medical, socialized medical.) Someday that chant will not mean squat but for now it gets me through the amazon.com jealousy.

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Originally Posted by Hailin View Post

I would like to try the CALs, and would buy them if I could find them for the same price they sell in the US. I can get them off amazon. I would be at 200bucks by then with taxes+shipping+duty. I am at DT770pros level. When something like this happens I just keep chanting (socialized medical, socialized medical.) Someday that chant will not mean squat but for now it gets me through the amazon.com jealousy.

Yeah, that's a bit expensive. If you're getting an amp, then the DT770 Pros are very slightly better. Ampless, the CAL is a no brainer. They sound full, warm, and pleasant at all times, amp or not.
post #6222 of 37450
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post
You guys are overthinking your purchases too much. Most of these headphones will make most of you happy.

That's undoubtedly true, but when spending $100-200 on something, I want do as much research as I can to make sure I'm buying the best I can. I'm risk averse that way.  ;)

 

For example, you guys just made me learn that I don't actually want closed headphones, and would be happier with open or semi-open ones. :)

 

So given that, which headphones should I be looking at for comfort and recreational gaming in an open / semi-open design?

post #6223 of 37450
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Originally Posted by Hailin View Post

I would like to try the CALs, and would buy them if I could find them for the same price they sell in the US. I can get them off amazon. I would be at 200bucks by then with taxes+shipping+duty. I am at DT770pros level. When something like this happens I just keep chanting (socialized medical, socialized medical.) Someday that chant will not mean squat but for now it gets me through the amazon.com jealousy.

On eBay, you might find some used ones that can be shipped to Canada.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

On eBay, you might find some used ones that can be shipped to Canada.

Hmm this is a thought. I still think I am Beyer man. That comfort is out of this world imo. 

I just picked up some Koss DJ100s which I know for a fact I won't be using for Dolby purposes. The soundstage is tighter on them like you are sitting on the edge of the stage. But if anything they are a great lounging on the bed chillin headphone.

 

I am tempted to pull the trigger on the T70s just to say I did but that really nasty mid bass spike to over 600 ohms weirds me the hell out.

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Unless I am totally reading this wrong.

 

I am also totally sold on the clarity of the AKG K550 and don't really care about the so called lacking bass. I care more about moving my head and then having to spend 5 mins to get a seal again. (Again an over reaction I know.)

 

Which puts me back to Pro900s and DT770 250ohm. Which I will probably just order on Friday for the hell of it.

 

I know I am over thinking it and I apologize for that. Even if I don't get a reply back I feel better just for writing all my thoughts out. (Guess I should feel bad for taking up forum space. heh)

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I was debating to go open again but even with my closed 350s I can hear my Xbox or video card during quiet moments when I'm trying to hear people. If I'm not happy with the HM5's (which are going to be here monday/tomorrow) after some break in I probably will go back to open though
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