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Chico: S-Logic, bad for music (makes it sound unnatural to me), didn't affect DH gaming positively or negatively.

I will say, the Q701 is a lot more natural sounding. In direct comparison, the Q701 is easily the better can in everything but speed and bass. I was quite disappointed in the Pro 2900 when directly comparing the two, which was my fault. They don't sound remotely alike, and I felt they shouldn't be compared in that way. A better comparison would be the 880/990 and HE-4.

Based off the Pro 2900s own performance, not comparing it to anything, and understanding that its bright with a V shaped sound curve, the Pro 2900 is very enjoyable and a fantastic headphone, just overpriced, IMHO.

Personally, I don't think you'd like it. The Q701 has spoiled me too, and the difference is why I didn't put a direct comparison in the review.
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

So I ordered a pair of JVC HARX700 recently as I've heard they're nice and comfortable for their price. Looking forward to tossing them in the ring of gaming and seeing how they turn out. Should be here Tuesday if the tracking is accurate.

 

I used to have the HARX900.  They are freaking huge.  For how huge they are,you'd think the cups would be deeper though (The CALs are tiny in comparison but still have deeper cups).  They also got hot on my ears. 

 

The soundstage was a bit weird and unevenly staggered sounding to me, and the imaging/positioning wasn't very intuitive.

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Let me clarify about S-logic. The Pro 2900 is a great music can, but S-logic was detrimental to the sound quality. The Pro 2900 has a wide soundstage, almost unnaturally so. In the Virtual Barber Shop binaural demo, the part where they are using clippers to cut hair, it sounds off your head, where it should sound ON your head.

The sound separation was a bit too separated, and I'm gonna blame S-logic. It just doesn't sound realistic compared to a standard driver placement. That doesn't mean it negatively affected sound fidelity. Just... the presentation was a bit off compared to normal.
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Oh, one more thing, how deep are Ultrasone cups?  They look really shallow in pics, but are they any deeper than say, Beyers?

 

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OK, Q701 it is. Thanks for the help, though now I have to buy an astro mixamp....
About $370 down the hatch I guess.
I think i chose the wrong hobby to get into for a (about to be) 16 year old with no current job frown.gif .
Hopefully when I get some more money my wallet won't be quite so sad as it's going to be.
post #5676 of 37457
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They are deep enough. The cups aren't huge like the Q701s, but depth is slightly shallower. Not Beyer shallow though. They should be fine for ear comfort.
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Thanks for the thorough review MLE, you knocked it out of the park. This helps me figure out what my next headphone might be.

 

If you ever want to try the hfi2200 (which is identical to the 2400) just let me know. I also have the hs15 which is ultrasone's only headset they ever made. It's a barebones headset with nothing like a volume control or a mute switch.

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Hi, thanks for the guide you've written up. I just have one question. How do I connect my AKG Q701 to my pc and still emulate dolby digital surround sound? Do I absolutely need a mixamp? Are there any other alternatives? 

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Calpis: thanks for your kind words. I was literally stressing out on how to word the entire damn thing without making it sound like I was completely for or against it. I would say that the Pro 2900 is a damn good headphone ESPECIALLY for gaming. It does directionality well and has good bass and is analytical, this one is easily recommendable to anyone who can afford it.

Its solid for both fun and competitive. So yeah, an all rounder through and through. Its a little rough in certain areas, but so is the DT990 and DT880 which I love. Pros and cons. The biggest drawback is the price, that's pretty much it.

I won't consider the mids a drawback because its to be expected from a v shaped headphone.

Pastel, there are soundcards that have Dolby Headphone. Check the PC guide (linked on the first post)
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/11/12 at 1:50am
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I bought them [2900] used locally from a kind japanese college student for roughly $350. He only had them for roughly a month before putting them up for sale. I agree that the msrp on them are ridiculously overpriced and think that I had paid a very fair price for them. Before that, I bought the 2200 off ebay for just a hair under $100. I still love their brown and orange color scheme.

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I bought them [2900] used locally from a kind japanese college student for roughly $350. He only had them for roughly a month before putting them up for sale. I agree that the msrp on them are ridiculously overpriced and think that I had paid a very fair price for them. Before that, I bought the 2200 off ebay for just a hair under $100. I still love their brown and orange color scheme.

 

How are the HFI 2200/2400 compared to 2900?  Warmer?

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I don't like the Pro 2900 out of the Mixamp, preferred it on the STX as it is much much cleaner and signal quality many leagues above it. Did a comparison on Battlefield 3. BF3 -> STX -> Dolby Headphone -> Pro 2900 vs. BF3 -> STX -> DDL -> Mixamp -> Pro 2900 and it's almost shocking.

 

The review is a good one though and almost matches my impressions. S-Logic is hit and miss though for many, it always has been, in my case it works very well, better than my PC360 for instance.

 

I ordered a T90 now and will compare. 

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One thing: the Pro 2900 absolutely did NOT like the E9. The E9 made the Pro 2900 incredibly harsh and thin. Quite possibly the worst combination I've heard, outside of the E9 with the HE-4, which just did not do the HE-4 any favors.

If anything, the Pro 2900 would do well with some warm amps.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/11/12 at 2:45am
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I would like to give the Q701 a try as well (I like the green version :D) but I am afraid of its headband and those pressure points which made me dislike the K701. 

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They're no different, so if they bothered you back then, they'll bother you now.

Frankly, I don't see how people don't get used to them. confused.gif
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