even with eq?
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even with eq?
Since HD800s are supposedly the king of soundstage, they're probably the only phones I'm interested in trying besides the Q701s. I think everything else in-between (T1, HD700, Shure 1840, etc.) wouldn't be enough of an improvement over Q701.
You should try to avoid getting phones that you know will need EQ-ing to work. Also, you can't fix their soundstage with EQ. They're just not a good choice for competitive gaming.
I use it with my SU-DH1 when playing console games.
It does bring out the positional cues with Dolby Headphone alright, though I doubt it's an AD700 or Stax Lambda in that regard due to the relative lack of soundstage. As for sound signature, I expect it to be more suited to big, boomy explosions and gunshots compared to picking out footsteps...not that I have that kind of sneaky FPS gameplay on a console at all.
I used to feed the MixAmp into the Audio-GD FUN when I had that. It helped improve clarity when I used the HD650 for gaming. The FUN is long gone and amps I've owned since unfortunately haven't had additional RCA inputs to allow a DAC and MixAmp to be plugged in at the same time. I've been less than a casual gamer for some time now, and the MixAmp only saw light of day when watching movies/tv shows on my PS3. The LCD-2 plugged directly into the MixAmp for this use is pretty damn good though. Excellent and deep bass in abundance, without smothering dialogue or other details.
The HD800 plugged straight into the MixAmp is holographic and incredibly immersive. I only played BF3 (on Live/360), with audio set to Home Cinema and other processing disabled in the game menu. I think the HD800 soundstage is an overstated myth. Yes, it's an incredibly open sounding headphone, but its soundstage is not exaggerated or artificial imho. What gives it this open sound and great imaging is the speed of the driver and frontal centre image presented by the angle of the large cups. The driver's ability to start/stop is its main strength, resulting in every single detail being resolved with precision and clarity. You're assaulted with sound, but it's not a single disorientating blob. Every element has a character, and a point of origin.
Also, the HD800 when plugged into a decent system presents well extended and highly resolved low end. It doesn't have the weight of the LCD-2's bass, but then what headphone does? I was expecting the HD800's bass to be compromised when plugged directly into the MixAmp, but I was surprised at the impact and rumble of it. The few times I played with the LCD-2 I recall the bass being overbearing, especially when you're in the thick of all the action.
The HD800 is just so convincing when paired with the MixAmp for gaming. I don't think I've ever been as immersed sonically.
So many headphones, so little money...
As much as I want to sample everything (up to and including the Stax SR-009) so I'm not paralyzed with uncertainty every time I try to recommend headphones to people who don't have the budget for even vintage Stax Lambda setups, my budget just doesn't allow for that.
HD558 + modmic should sound at least as good if not better than PC360s...