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Has anyone used the brainwavz hm5's for gaming? I'm looking into buying a mixamp and modmic for them and wondering if they're worth it.
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Originally Posted by IronSnake View Post

For my ears, the Mixamp has plenty volume mixed in with the modmic. My wife's ears are even more sensitive to where she says I'm deaf having the volume that loud--and I'm only at 60% gaming online with voice. Everyone's hearing is different, so if the volume not enough for you, bi-amp it. Getting our setup sounding the way we want is what makes all this so fun.

Like I said, I bought the FiiO E11 thinking I would need it, but ended up not needing it. However, I do want to try down the road pairing the Q701 with the M-Stage since it increases its soundstage. I'm also a sucker for large soundstages.

 

I should note that the benefits from the M-stage are subtle, and since you already said you don't need the extra volume from the E11, I wouldn't go out and spend $250 on an M-stage just for the purpose of double amping the mixamp.  It gives the sound a little more breathing room, but not $250 worth.

 

It's more like: "If your already looking for desktop amps in the price range, consider it."

Or: "If you already have a M-stage, try hooking it up."

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Hey MLE. I have 2 questions.

 

1. The list you made for the headphones in different categories, are they in order or preference or random? 

 

2. Has anyone tried the DT 770/80 with an Equalizing amp like the Fiio e17 or Fischer HA-02? If the bass is the only reason the headphone scores low for competitive gaming it could always be reduced? 

 

My 770 should be here in a couple of hours but I don't have an EQ amp.

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Random.

Thought about an alpha list, but I'm of the lazy sort, so... yeah.

As for the second question, if you're going to EQ, go for it. I would myself and have. I'm sure you can tweak a headphone to your liking. EQ can dramatically alter a headphone's sound. All I have said has been with the headphone's original sound.

For the sake of the general masses, I like my headphones to sound as they were intended. If I judged a headphone after EQ, I'm not judging the headphones...I'm judging the EQ, which doesn't help anyone.

As for the positive side of EQ: Subtractive EQ is the best method, and I'd say a prime candidate would be the DT990s getting a treble reduction, though I'm skeptical on how well the E17 drives them.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/11/12 at 5:14am
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

I should note that the benefits from the M-stage are subtle, and since you already said you don't need the extra volume from the E11, I wouldn't go out and spend $250 on an M-stage just for the purpose of double amping the mixamp.  It gives the sound a little more breathing room, but not $250 worth.

It's more like: "If your already looking for desktop amps in the price range, consider it."
Or: "If you already have a M-stage, try hooking it up."

 

Thanks chicolom, I'll save my money and use it to snap up a D7000 instead.

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Thanks chicolom, I'll save my money and use it to snap up a D7000 instead.

That came out of nowhere, and I approve this wholeheartedly. biggrin.gif
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It's crazy, I've been listening to the D7000 all day, and then switched to the Q701 for the past hour. The Q701 definitely has more mid bass.

Don't get me wrong. This level is what I'd consider great, I just really am too sensitive to mid bass, so in my personal preference, a weaker mid bass is probably to my liking. I can appreciate the very obvious difference between the two headphones. The Denons have a strong sub bass and reserved mid bass, whereas the Q701 has reserved sub bass, and quantifiable amount of mid bass. I'd say it's balanced to slightly emphasized.

The two headphones really do compliment each other well.

If I could change the Q701 more to my optimal preference in sound, I'd add a few decibels of sub bass, and subtract just a hint of mid bass. The Q701's bass isn't as omnipresent as the Denons (sub bass lingers and fills the sound spectrum a bit more), but it sure as hell hits harder when it comes to the quick hits, like in drum and bass tracks.

In any case, the Q701 is certainly right next to the DT880 when it comes to well balanced headphones that I can certainly enjoy for all purposes.

I don't use them often for music, but everytime I do, I ask myself how could I not? They're fantastic. I guess the reason I always reach for the Denons for music is because most of my music really highlights sub bass, so I enjoy them more.

I could've been given the Q701 early on in this obsession, and I would've been 100% satisfied. They're just worth it. I honestly don't see how spending a crapton more money could improve that much more on what the Q701 does.

If AKG sold these for $500-600 with a higher quality build like the Denons, I wouldn't complain. They certainly sound every bit as good as the Denons, just with a different signature and balance.

So again, to people like Chicolom, I have to really thank you for really being positive about the Q701. If it weren't for you guys, I'd have skipped them for sure, as I wasn't a fan of the K701 in the same way. You saved me a lot of cash, as I may have went with the HE500 or T1 down the line. I have no need to now. That says a lot.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/11/12 at 5:27pm
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That came out of nowhere, and I approve this wholeheartedly. biggrin.gif

LOL. I am planning to get a closed pair for gaming in noisy situations, so I was thinking of getting the D2000 with markl mod. That puts me at $320 total, so throw in the $250 saved from not needing the M-Stage, I've got enough for the D7000, which I should've pulled the trigger when I had it in my cart at EE with the coupon a couple months ago. I'm still regretting chickening out.
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Well, to be honest, the Denons aren't going to be very competent in noisy situations. They don't isolate outside noises well. They don't leak out much, but I would look elsewhere if you're trying to keep exterior noises out.
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Any recommendation for a closed back headphone for competitive css, I cant use an open back in lan events and isolation is a must in that noisy enviorment :D

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


I could've been given the Q701 early on in this obsession, and I would've been 100% satisfied. They're just worth it. I honestly don't see how spending a crapton more money could improve that much more on what the Q701 does.

If AKG sold these for $500-600 with a higher quality build like the Denons, I wouldn't complain. They certainly sound every bit as good as the Denons, just with a different signature and balance.

So again, to people like Chicolom, I have to really thank you for really being positive about the Q701. If it weren't for you guys, I'd have skipped them for sure, as I wasn't a fan of the K701 in the same way. You saved me a lot of cash, as I may have went with the HE500 or T1 down the line. I have no need to now. That says a lot.

 

 

I totally agree.  

 

It's crazy that we went through so many headphones to get to them.  It's like I tried just about every other option first, but the last one was the best :p They firmly squashed the upgrade-itis bug for me.  They really are on another level from some of the other cans I've tried. 

 

I've been very pro-Q701 on the forums redface.gif.  I'm happy If I've been able to persuade other people to give them a try, and they hear what I hear from them.  I knew after listening to them that I had found my headphone.  I love everything about them (minus the headband tongue.gif), and I get excited talking about them.  They give me warm fuzzy feelings k701smile.gif

 

 

 

They weren't that many headphone-gaming threads around a couple years ago.  That monstrous thread on AVS first got me interested.  KBI, and those other guys were like the founding fathers of headphone gaming.  You started trying to consolidate the info into a guide for everyone, and I thought that was great, but then they shut you down LOL biggrin.gif 

 

I really think by making this thread you've expanded this type of community.  So thank you MLE /Shin CZ/Raven Crimson for sharing and consolidating your experience and information with the rest of us!  beerchug.gif

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I really wish they'd let me log on to my original account over there, but its no biggie. I don't go to AVS much, as those guys are mostly headset type of guys, and I've outgrown headsets in general. They do a great job keeping that thread alive though.

And lol with forum names. Should've seen me on Adventchildren.net. I had over 50 names there. Something crazy.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I really wish they'd let me log on to my original account over there, but its no biggie. I don't go to AVS much, as those guys are mostly headset type of guys, and I've outgrown headsets in general. They do a great job keeping that thread alive though.
And lol with forum names. Should've seen me on Adventchildren.net. I had over 50 names there. Something crazy.

 

Haha.  Ya, don't worry AVS, the Tritton Warheads are "Coming Soon!" 

 

Only Head-fi accommodates ridiculous amounts of avatars.

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I just wish Head-fi didn't compress the image quality. I have an eye for such things, and notice the slightest artifacts. Troublesome limitations. ACF was great as it had a currency system, where you'd gain 'money' for posting daily and whatnot. With that money, you could change your username, name color, bold, italic, custom titles, and other cool stuff. God, I miss that forum. So much drama too, lol. At one point I 'hacked' the system by transferring the currency from one profile to another. I clicked so fast while transferring, that I ended up with an infinite amount. I broke the currency system, and it was frozen for weeks, until I helped them to understand the exploit. I must have been banned more times than I can count, but I was friends with admins and was let off the hook quite a bit. XD

Too much time on forums...considering I have the laziest job in history.

edit: Oh another thing the Q701 does so incredibly well... low volume listening. When I come home from work and I'm just overall tired, I like to listen at moderately low volume. The Q701 retains so much clarity and overall balance, that I can't see myself doing with the D7000, which at low levels would be too warm and smooth for my taste.

So again, big ups to the Q701. k701smile.gif
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/12/12 at 3:27am
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I could've been given the Q701 early on in this obsession, and I would've been 100% satisfied. They're just worth it. I honestly don't see how spending a crapton more money could improve that much more on what the Q701 does.
If AKG sold these for $500-600 with a higher quality build like the Denons, I wouldn't complain. They certainly sound every bit as good as the Denons, just with a different signature and balance.
So again, to people like Chicolom, I have to really thank you for really being positive about the Q701. If it weren't for you guys, I'd have skipped them for sure, as I wasn't a fan of the K701 in the same way. You saved me a lot of cash, as I may have went with the HE500 or T1 down the line. I have no need to now. That says a lot.

 

Wow. I guess now I will have you to thank when I order my Q701's! I probably won't be buying any more audio gear after getting them with the STX, and I think I will be 100% satisfied with them :)

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