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Originally Posted by BChizzle View Post

Before i purchase the Mixamp ... do i need any of the additionals? Rechargable batteries ? Optical cable?

Also, do the K701's work with the Mixamp?

 

Optical Cable. All headphones work the the Mixamp, and as stated before the K701 is one of the best in it's price range for it.

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BChizzle, buy the rechargeable battery pack from Astro. Buy the optical cable from monoprice or Amazon (get it cheap).
 

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Guys i have a receiver that outputs dolby digital 5.1 and dts 5.1 to my headphones. I've used dolby headphone before, but i would like some thoughts whether its worth it to get a mixamp to use dolby headphone with my hd 555 or just stick with my receiver.



Are you SURE it outputs Dolby Headphone to your headphones? Unless SPECIFICALLY specified, all receivers downmix all signals to 2 channel stereo for headphones. Yamaha has Silent Cinema (which is something like Dolby Headphone, but different). I believe Harman Kardon receivers have a Dolby Hedphone option, and some other receivers use their own headphone surround modes if stated. You have to make absolutely sure it's true Dolby Headphone, or I can't guarantee performance with the same quality as the Mixamp.

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Mixamp bought. Hope it doesn't take forever to arrive :) Gonna purchase the PC360 also. Is audioheadstore a legit site?   Thanks for all the help btw. Much appreciated

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Mixamp bought. Hope it doesn't take forever to arrive :) Gonna purchase the PC360 also. Is audioheadstore a legit site?   Thanks for all the help btw. Much appreciated



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Like MLE has stated, the reciever must specify that it has db.  Most has surround mode or just stereo (2.0)  Don't take his Terminology of "downmix" the wrong way.  When  you set up your xbox there will be options that allow you to set your audio signal as 5.1 surround. Basically it is sending all digital data as 5.1 surround codec.  If given the proper tool (mixamp or receiver with DH) the code will be converted to analog that has positioning ques and everything else that a gamer needs audio wise. You should not think that the receiver is a bad choice for listening to music through though.  Many recievers these days actually have good DAC's in them (what they talk about when they say mp3  "restorer")

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Well if the ad900's stay around $200 when I finish my taxes this year I will be picking up a pair to replace my ad700's.  The ad900's are by all reports that I've seen a much better built headphone than the ad700.  They clamp tighter, and don't creak like the ad700's do.  Also they sound better, but retain that amazing AT soundstage.  

 

Not sure if anyone else has used them, but I imagine them to be the actual holy grail for headphone gaming in terms of price/looks/performance.  

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I have read many times that the AD700 has better positioning and still slightly larger soundstage over the AD900. This is from gamers.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I have read many times that the AD700 has better positioning and still slightly larger soundstage over the AD900. This is from gamers.


I've had the AD900 and my brothers currently owns the AD700. The AD700 has a SLIGHTLY larger sound stage, but to be honest, it's barely even worth mentioning. That and the AD900 is a big improvement in the way it presents music. I'd go the AD900 if you have the money as I used that for gaming (CS:S) for a long time and it was absolutely incredible. You will never have an issue pinpointing enemies through walls with that headphone. I'd say the sound stage is 95% of the AD700s + you get much better music.

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I think the main reason the AD900's don't get a lot of attention is because once you get up to their price range there are better choices for the money. Especially at one point when the DT 990 could be had for about $180.

 

Also, bada-bing, bada-boom. 1k.

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Congrats, Riku. Wish I was there with you this long, but then I'd probably have like 4 flagships by now.
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I think the main reason the AD900's don't get a lot of attention is because once you get up to their price range there are better choices for the money. Especially at one point when the DT 990 could be had for about $180.

 

Also, bada-bing, bada-boom. 1k.


But are the beyer's actually better than the ad900's?  Soundstage and imaging is king for a gaming headphone and I'm under the impression that the audio technica open backed headphones are the king of the hill in those areas.  

 

The dt990 would probably make a great "fun" gaming headphone, but the forward midrange on the ad900's would probably bring out the footsteps in games better.  I'm guessing the perception that the ad900's have a slightly smaller soundstage than the ad700's is because they clamp a little tighter and have more forwards mids.  

 

I am so close to buying a pair....    

 

Just bought a hrt music streamer II+ and the way this thing has opened up the soundstage on my ad700's compared to my xfi prelude I can honestly say that dolby headphone is pointless.  No dolby box can provide the clarity I'm getting out of this thing.  It unfortunately causes some older games to crash to desktop so I can't fully uninstall the xfi prelude yet. 

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Well, no real use in speculating if neither of us have tried the AD900.

 

All I'm saying is that if the AD900 was the clear better choice in it's price range, it probably wouldn't be as uncommon as it is.

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Using Dolby Headphone has nothing to do with soundstage for me. It's the way positional cues are presented to my brain. I HATE stereo positional cues. The soundstage could be the size of a football field. I still hate it compared to the way DH presents it. Of course stereo has the best fidelity, as its untouched and less processed, but I don't play to have the best possible fidelity. I play with DH for sound placement first. I'll choose a $100 DH setup over a $2000 stereo setup for gaming anyday. I don't like Stereo for gaming. Period.
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Agreed. Directional precision > how well you can hear the grass crunch in an enemy footstep that you can't tell where it's coming from.

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That and stereo sounds less natural to me. Without some crossfeed (which consoles won't integrate), positional cues are heard only on one side. Tell me, when the hell do we hear sounds only with one ear? It's annoying and actually bothers my ears.

DH doesn't have a generic cues. Putting you in the middle of a circle and letting you hear with both ears where sound is coming from sounds a lot more natural, even if the SQ sounds more processed.

Give me some true binaural gaming and then I'll consider tossing Dolby Headphone.
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