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So I've got a few questions...

 

Dolby Headphone and CMSS both require hardware for processing right? Meaning, either a soundcard capable of it, or something like the MixAmp. Is there a way to do this without upgrading my soundcard on my PC?

 

Would a program like Isone Pro work for games? It has a feature which allows surround sound, and increased soundstage, when listening to music.  I was wondering if this could work for games also. This seems like an alternative to purchasing a soundcard.

 

Lastly, is it possible to connect a PS3 to a computer, so Isone Pro can provide the surround sound?


In theory, it's quite possible in software. In practice, making it work in games without the proper hardware is quite troublesome. It's much easier and more practical to just get a sound card, especially when the only possibly useful software solutions still cost money.

 

Isone Pro/TB_Isone/etc. is useless for gaming, because it's a Winamp/VST/etc. media player plugin. Games cannot interface with such things.

 

You could connect a PS3's S/PDIF output to a PC, but then you have the problem of not being able to decode Dolby Digital or DTS at the driver level, meaning you either get stereo PCM or absolutely nothing. Many other people have already tried and failed to make a PC with a sound card serve as a makeshift Mixamp...

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Edit: Ah, phooey, none of my points matter now that namelesspfg's on the case.


Edited by Eric_C - 4/17/12 at 8:40pm
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Agreed. I am an Engineering Tech (R&D). One variable at a time. Just sweating this whole "bass light" thing as I do want explosions to have a little feeling. If "bass light" means good for sound wh@ring and bugger all else I will be disappointed.

 

I dunno given I wanted low impedance, open sound stage, good for Dolby Headphone, all round, under $250, and so on. After a long search I felt like I was boxed into either the:

AD700, AD900, HD558, HD598

 

The HD's were sounding real sexy but after reading about the cracking plastic near the cans over and over I got gun shy. Anything at the $200 mark (I feel) should not have a problem like that.

So, given that I eventually went for the easy to drive with better bass and clarity AD900 (based on what I read here).

 

If the bass is lacking for things like DnB or Rap, and it sounds like they will be, if I am otherwise happy I may just get a second pair of cans to compliment the AD900's.

 

Any suggestions?? Off the cuff I was thinking the V-Moda M50's based on the 2011 Christmas Gift Guide from Head Fi.
 

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The newer Senns HD598's don't have the cracking issue anymore. I have had mine since winter and I haven't seen any cracks. I love mine for music and tv shows. I have some DT990 pros if I want that head thump. Biotic Explosions + DT's = a deaf me.

 

Someone mentioned about the mass effect relay distortion on a Mixamp. I have the same issue with my Beyers. I just started pulling them off my head when I went to a relay. I don't know why that sound needs to be louder then every effect in the game.

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Good to know. I was really thinking about the 598's. Honestly, I hate the color though I could forgive them if they sound good enough.

 

I think I will make a "Total Noob shares thoughts about AD900's" thread after they get here. The reason I was thinking something else to compliment the AD900 is that even the 598's get comments about not really having FULL bass and as stated before I do likes the DnB.

 

Also, to be clear the reason I posted here and not somewhere else is this:

 

At work I listen to ear buds half the damn day.

 

At home 85% I am gaming.

 

At home 10% music while smoking outside on MP3 player.

 

At home 5% watching movies on headphones.
 

As far as the gaming...50% MW3/MW2 online FPS and 50% whatever game (Skyrim ruining my life)

 

So, given all that you might see why the AD900 vs. HD958 ended up being my dilemma.

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Someone tell me that the ATH-AD900 was not a stupid choice given what I was going for.


Edited by Heretic817 - 4/17/12 at 10:43pm
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Thanks Nameless, that helps a lot. 

 

Does anyone know if using an amp with the Mixamp/DSS muddy or decrease the surround sound it produces in anyway? Since different amps have different affects on the sound signature, I'm thinking it's possible it would impact the surround as well.

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Hey all. I am throwing this in the ring. It's an article on Impedance both as a general concept and as it applies to audio. I skimmed it and found it to be a bit better than the explanation I found elsewhere on this site.

 

I know bugger all about headphones but I do know Impedance. Hell I spent 4 years behind a Spectrum Analyzer in EMI/RFI testing.

 

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan03/articles/impedanceworkshop.asp

 

 

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Thanks Nameless, that helps a lot. 

Does anyone know if using an amp with the Mixamp/DSS muddy or decrease the surround sound it produces in anyway? Since different amps have different affects on the sound signature, I'm thinking it's possible it would impact the surround as well.


So you talking about daisy chaining a headphone amplifier on to the headphone output on a Astro Mix-amp or onto a Turtle Beach DSS?

I doubt daisy chaining affects the surround sound feature, I think "adding noise" to the signal is more likely to be the problem.

Some have daisy chained something like a Fiio E9 on to a Mix-amp and were happy with the setup.

 

 

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Has anybody compared the Samson SR850 and AD700. How do these two stack up against each other.

 

 

Competitive:?/10

 

Fun:?/10 

 

I would greatly appreciate some feedback on this, thanks smily_headphones1.gif

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Has anybody compared the Samson SR850 and AD700. How do these two stack up against each other.

Competitive:?/10

Fun:?/10

I would greatly appreciate some feedback on this, thanks smily_headphones1.gif


I own both, very very rarely ever wear the ATH-AD700.

I like to hear bass in audio.

 

 

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I own both, very very rarely ever wear the ATH-AD700.

I like to hear bass in audio.

 

 

 

So, the Samson SR850 is better for Gaming and music, when compared to the ATH-AD700?

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I discovered that the newer DSS2's use the CVT (Cirrus® Virtualizer Technology) algorithm. Never heard of it.

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So you talking about daisy chaining a headphone amplifier on to the headphone output on a Astro Mix-amp or onto a Turtle Beach DSS?

I doubt daisy chaining affects the surround sound feature, I think "adding noise" to the signal is more likely to be the problem.

Some have daisy chained something like a Fiio E9 on to a Mix-amp and were happy with the setup.

 

 

 

Yeah, to "double-amp" in case I need more juice. It would depend on the headphones obviously. Is there a way to reduce noise if I go this route? Some kind of filter?

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I discovered that the newer DSS2's use the CVT (Cirrus® Virtualizer Technology) algorithm. Never heard of it.

 

Oh?  Interesting.... Where did you find this information at?  I've never heard of that DSP before...

 

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Yeah, to "double-amp" in case I need more juice. It would depend on the headphones obviously. Is there a way to reduce noise if I go this route? Some kind of filter?

 

I think if the headphones are power-hungry enough to require double-amping, noise will probably be out of the audible range anyways. 

 

What headphones are you using?

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