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Not at all, but of course they do sound best with one. I use them once in awhile straight out of my Ipod touch and they sound pretty good.

Unlike the Denon D2000, I can suggest the ATH-AD2000 without an amp.

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Do the AD2000s need to be amped?

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I would never suggest people look into $500+ headphones for gaming. I only brought up the D7000 because I happen to own them. If people ask me about them, I would let them know, but I won't go around recommending them. Let's be a little more reasonable and realistic. The AD2000 is ridiculously expensive.

As for the Denon D2000... I'm sure its easy to recommend as a fun can because for GAMING, the Mixamp would give it plenty of juice like it does for my D7000. We're not trying to squeeze out every little bit of detail when we're too busy blowing stuff up.

If you weren't to voice chat, the Mixamp has plenty of juice to make the K70x super enjoyable and detailed for gaming. Just that adding voice chat will severely underpower them.

The benefit of adding a powerful amp to the Mixamp for single player gaming wasnt worth the improvement. When you dedicate the Mixamp to fully power game audio, it has plenty of power for gaming, even for 600ohm Beyers, K70x. Not ideal, but you won't miss having to attach an extra amp.
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Hm ,  I'm gonna take a look into these HD598s. Hope i won't get disappointed if i decide to purchase one. :)

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What are you gonna hook them up to? Also, they don't have as much bass as the PC360, making them not as well rounded for all types of gaming. They ARE more detailed and clear.
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I don't have an amp. So probably just into my computer haedphone jack or my logitech speakers. I AM considering buying an amp though.. Also , what's a good site to purchase these?

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Are you a gamer who uses Dolby Headphone? I ask because my recommendations are MOSTLY based off how these headphones perform with it. If you are playing in regular stereo, I can't guarantee the performance.

Also, the HD598 is gonna be underwhelming without an amp. As a console gamer, the Mixamp will make them great, but as a PC gamer without an amp, I don't think they're gonna do great.

I still suggest the PC360 for most needs. They are definitely easier to power.
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I'm not sure what Dolby headphones mean, but yeah i play on console. My setup is like..Headphones-> Speakers->Monitor->HDMI->PS3 . I shoulda mentioned , these would probably be used a bit for music also. Currently im using the M50's for both gaming + music and it doesn't really impress me too much

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I try not to suggest them much because they're stupid expensive new and not worth $700 or whatever they are. I'm not even sure anymore. If I had considered a brand new pair I probably could not afford them or feel guilty about it. I don't listen to music enough to justify a $600+ headphone. I think for the very few that want the absolute best regardless of price, it's one I would have to always suggest. Some people these days have so much money that $600 isn't much. I wish I had that kind of money. What really shocks me is that even in this economy people still fork over 4k for gaming computers!

 

The ATH-AD2000 with a little effort can be had for $425-$480 used. I got mine for $425 shipped and it was like new with box. I think that's a reasonable price considering how good it is for gaming and music and how it seems to be good for most every genre. $450 for a good headphone isn't too bad. I remember paying around $350 for my Triple Fi when it first came out confused_face_2.gif

 

EDIT: Wow, some moron is trying to sell a pair on amazon for.....$1099. What the heck?! Two pairs for $699. These are 100% not worth over $600 to me.

 

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I would never suggest people look into $500+ headphones for gaming. I only brought up the D7000 because I happen to own them. If people ask me about them, I would let them know, but I won't go around recommending them. Let's be a little more reasonable and realistic. The AD2000 is ridiculously expensive.
 
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Originally Posted by BChizzle View Post

I'm not sure what Dolby headphones mean, but yeah i play on console. My setup is like..Headphones-> Speakers->Monitor->HDMI->PS3 . I shoulda mentioned , these would probably be used a bit for music also. Currently im using the M50's for both gaming + music and it doesn't really impress me too much


PLEASE, look into the something like the Astro Mixamp. This adds Dolby Headphone, which is the virtual surround I use for console gaming, and the main reason I recommend headphones in the first place.
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Did you purchase the Mixamp 5.8 straight from their site? Can you tell me how my setup would look if i DO buy the mixamp ? Currently it's Headphones-> Speakers->Monitor->HDMI->PS3, would it go between the Headphones and Speakers?   , ,, weouedasd,a

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PS3 > Optical > Mixamp > Headphones.

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if you are using hdmi you will need to connect the mixamp to the ps3 via optical cable(include in 5.8).  Then your headphone will plug directly into the mixamps wireless side.  You're done.  Without the mixamp you will only get surround sound which is basically a little bit of direction que but absolutely NO depth.  With dolby headphone from the mixamp you will be able to pinpoint people out exactly where they are(if you have a good headphone attached) MLE doesn't remember using the a40's but if you don't plan on worrying about music then to me these are the best headphone possible for first person shooters.  The imaging is right on and you don't feel like you have headphones on instead it has a really good headstage where you actually feel like the sounds are coming from in your head, like you're actually there in the game

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Okay ,  i'm gonna purchase the Mixamp 5.8 and it's a tossup between the HD598's and PC360s. Once i make that decision i'm gonna buy.  Again this is mostly for FPS and a bit of music. I'm not sure how the PC360s are with music... so i'm leaning towards the 598s...What's a good site to get them from?

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I prefer the PC360 for music as the bass makes them slightly more balanced (everything sounds even with the rest of the sound), while the HD598 is slightly more mid and treble centric.

 

The HD598 is cheapest at Electronics-Expo, but you have to find the coupon codes that brings them down to about $165 (sorry, I don't know it).

 

The PC360 can be had for around $180, but I don't have it saved. You'll have to ask around. (check AVS on my sig, that topic has people that can help you).

 

Just remember that the PC360 is a headset without a mic attached. :)

 

If you plan on getting them, make sure to get the PS3 chat cable (an extra $10), if you chat on the ps3. I don't, so I didn't get it, though I do chat on the 360.

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So you don't have a good headphone already for music?IF you really are into hardcore gaming and want the best then get the a40's and buy something different for music. Not sure if you said you had the m50's but if you did then you might as well use those for music because honestly the 598's might be good for music but it depends on what you listen to and what you want out of a headphone.  The 598 also needs to be post amped past the mixamp.  Doesn't even sound logical in any way to do this.  The a40 is your best bet.  It's an amazing headphone for gaming.  I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS.   You will not be disappointed by them.  I know this is MLE's thread but he didn't even compare them.  They are the missing link of this thread.  Trying to blend the "PERFECT" headphone for gaming and music sounds almost to good to be true.(d7000 j money pads :))

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