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What DH setting do you recommend? My soundcard has DH1, DH2, and DH3. Or studio, cinema, and hall respectively. Here are the images in the sound card driver for each. http://imgur.com/a/9o79k

post #4877 of 37339

When I had a Xonar card I used DH1 or DH2. DH3 sounded way too 'huge'/echoey.

post #4878 of 37339

Until i can get money for headphones to use for gaming most likely (Thinking of the Sennheiser PC360), any idea of how the Crossfade M-80s would sound?

By the way, i know i found it in one of these threads but i can not find it again however it might be a different one for my TV, what type of RCA cable should i buy to connect wired headphones (like my M-80) to my Toshiba TV (Has a green, white, orange, blue and two red ports in the back)?

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http://www.amazon.com/Stereo-Splitter-3-5mm-Audio-Adapter/dp/B0009JFF7A/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332288618&sr=1-2 Something like this should work, it sounds like your TV has component and I think it uses the same audio cables as normal old rca. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though. 


Edited by shorke - 3/20/12 at 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by shorke View Post

What DH setting do you recommend? My soundcard has DH1, DH2, and DH3. Or studio, cinema, and hall respectively. Here are the images in the sound card driver for each. http://imgur.com/a/9o79k


DH2 is what the DH amps use (Mixamp, AX720, etc), so that'd be what I'd use.
post #4881 of 37339
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Originally Posted by hamzatm View Post

Wow thanks a lot Jodiuh!

 

So in your opinion should I also skip the DT880s and save up solely for Q701s with an amp?

 

 

I have only heard the DT990's and from what I've read, the 880's are the 990's, but without the V frequency graph, lol. If they're anything like the 770's the comfort level's probably through the roof too. I would definitely recommend an amp w/ either. It's probably a good idea to grab the 600 Ohm version of the 880 as well. Although, there's a big thread here w/ the difference between them. Either one will probably be great, but wo/ ever having heard the 880's, I can only defer too...


 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I might prefer the DT880s over the Q701 just a little bit for everything but FPS games. The DT880s just don't do rear positioning as well as I'd like. They are comparable though. The bass is similar. The difference FWIRemember is the mids are more emphasized on the Qs, and the DT880s have more treble emphasis.
They are both popular for a reason.

 

 

The Q's are the first cans I've owned to really emphasize mids. It's really, really nice to have vocals unmolested! I'll have to try the 880's someday.


 

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Originally Posted by shorke View Post

What DH setting do you recommend? My soundcard has DH1, DH2, and DH3. Or studio, cinema, and hall respectively. Here are the images in the sound card driver for each. http://imgur.com/a/9o79k

 

 

DH1, because...



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Originally Posted by Rebel975 View Post

When I had a Xonar card I used DH1 or DH2. DH3 sounded way too 'huge'/echoey.

 

 

of this.
 

 

 

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The different dolby headphone settings are just the amount of reverb, DH1 has none, DH2 has some, and DH3 has more.  

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PC user. Finally bought my audiophile headphone (waiting for shipment should arrive this week).

 

Tested: My experience playing games + movies for testing

 

DT770 Premium (The treble is good but bass is prominent for me. I would say suited better for movies + music)

DT880 Premium (For me this one had better soundstage but when gaming I tend to find it a bit hard to garner positioning also I tend to get caught up by the bass moments basshead.gif)

DT990 Premium (not available that day mad.gif)

HD598 (Tested this and fell in love with it right away. No matter what the salesperson tried to sell me told him I had found my baby. Soundstage and positioning was so easy when playing games. Movies + music was so bloody clear and just enough bass especially when powered with a good amp/dac/soundcard. I'm not a bass head so balanced bass is music to my ears.)

PC360 (I really wanted these as they had a mic included. Sadly tested the HD598 and it just couldn't compare to it in clarity. If you really need one with a mic this is perfect & close to the HD598)

Samson Meteor Mic AKA Reaper Mic http://www.samsontech.com/samson/products/microphones/usb-microphones/meteormic/ biggrin.gif (Mic clarity was astonishing. Tried chatting on Skype and Ventrilo friends right away were saying I sounded way better than my Steelseries 7H headphone. Head out to YouTube to check on clarity tests.)

 

Now on to the last stage: (Gaming/Music/Movies)

It's easier for me to get the DSS2 than the Mixamp where I live. Are they both comparable to each other or is the Mixamp superior?

My question would be do I still need a soundcard?

Between the STX Essence & Titanium HD which is preferable. Is there a better soundcard I may be missing out?

 

Thanks everyone for helping get my ideal setupL3000.gif

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On the PC I think a soundcard is the better option vs the mixamp style device, unless you plan on using it on consoles as well.  

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I haven't tried any of those headphones, so I can't comment there.

 

But between the X-Fi Titanium HD and Xonar Essence STX or any other non-X-Fi card, you're going to be losing out on a lot of gaming features (mostly DirectSound3D/OpenAL-centric, though) on non-X-Fi hardware, so that naturally makes me lean toward the X-Fi Titanium HD.

 

You might want to read my PC gaming audio guide sections on APIs and middleware, as well as binaural audio technologies (to compare CMSS-3D Headphone and Dolby Headphone). If your games of choice only use software-processed audio, then it's just a matter of comparing the two binaural surround filters.

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Hrm I know I read it before but I might as well double check on it.

 

The appropriate setup for using the Mixamp with any other amp included which in this case the Fiio E9 for a headPHONE for say the PS3 is.

 

Source > Toslink > Mixamp > 3.5mm to 3.5 from Mixamp package > Fiio E9 > headphone

 

I think that's it right?  Now it's a different story if you want to use a mic in this setup though right?  (Whether it's a headSET or a headphone witha velcroed/double sided taped to the headphone.)

 

Source > Toslink > Mixamp > 3.5 to y splitter from Mixamp package > E9 > headphone/set

     ^   < 3.5mm to 3.5mm (for PC)  <   ^ connect mic part respectively      <      v 3.5mm of of the mic

 

That do it?  For the PS3 specifically 2011 versions have the mic audio pass through the USB so that's a plus.

 

@iEnzo : -amazons meteor mic-  Now that's the prettiest looking mic if I've ever seen one. Though ya know.  My friend borrowing my whole Astro A40 set, I heard his voice.... it was pretty damn clear.  Now that mic alone costs $20 (not that I'm suggesting you get it cause it's the mic attachment to a headphone) so I don't think you had to spend that much for just voice chatting, but hey if this makes you sound like you're sitting right next to them, then more power to you, though this adds a bunch of other things you can do to it, so you probably bought it for more than just that maybe?lol

 

I haven't looked around bout the DSS2, though as far as hissy noise is concerned though just to bring up, "Tritton AX720 was hissy from the get go so it was like a hissier Mixamp"

 

The Mixamp only gets hissy with the volume dial going past 1oclock.  I suggest waiting for other inputs regarding this.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-3-15-2012-dolby-headphone-test-on-1st-post/4605 Here's some discussion about it though

Lucky for you though is that even though it doesn't have a dedicated mic input.  You already got that Meteor Mic so you're covered.

 

As for sound card... (Note: These are all just me repeating what other people have said, I haven't had the chance to personally use em)

 

If you only do music. Essence STX, if you do gaming, use the X-Fi Titanium HD which is geared towards gaming combined with Creatives proprietary technology, X-FI HD still works for music anyhow.  Just supposedly the Essence STX has a little lead on the X-Fi Titanium HD when it comes to music, but its ability to process gaming audio was just as people said "add on at the end as an afterthought"

 

BUT in the next few months a soundcard from Asus dedicated to gaming is coming out.

http://rog.asus.com/62712012/news/rog-xonar-phoebus-soundcard-announced/

 

Might be worth the wait to see what the input on this card will be?

 

Edit: and the master informer beats me to it, then again I needed to post alot lol.

@PFG: Actually when it does come out, did you have plans on checking out the Xonar Phoebus? and how the heck do you hyperlink (where you just have normal text, but it's clickable to provide a link.)  I'm only used to [url=][/url] format.

 

Edit: Hey MLE I think you should start linking pages or specific posts that has insightful discussions to your main guide.  You don't have to be clean about it either just copy paste it to your guide for random people to click.  Else stuff like this will get lost over the next 50+ pages lol.


Edited by AxelDaemon - 3/20/12 at 7:52pm
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Alright, thanks for all the help and answers guys! DH1 or 2 it is, I will see which I like more when my Q701s get here! smily_headphones1.gif

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Originally Posted by Phos View Post

On the PC I think a soundcard is the better option vs the mixamp style device, unless you plan on using it on consoles as well.  

I'm terabad with consoles tongue_smile.gif. PC 4 life Mouse + Keyboard beerchug.gif

 

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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

I haven't tried any of those headphones, so I can't comment there.

 

But between the X-Fi Titanium HD and Xonar Essence STX or any other non-X-Fi card, you're going to be losing out on a lot of gaming features (mostly DirectSound3D/OpenAL-centric, though) on non-X-Fi hardware, so that naturally makes me lean toward the X-Fi Titanium HD.

 

You might want to read my PC gaming audio guide sections on APIs and middleware, as well as binaural audio technologies (to compare CMSS-3D Headphone and Dolby Headphone). If your games of choice only use software-processed audio, then it's just a matter of comparing the two binaural surround filters.


I read your PC gaming audio guide awhile ago when deciding the headphones. Very strong points if one is gaming to go with the X-Fi Titanium HD. Seems to cover all the bases very well since I'll be delving into Gaming/Music/Movies. Let me check some VS with X-Fi Titanium HD & Essence STX or similiar cards to see the outcomes.

 

Games of choice: (Multiplayer)

Left4Dead 2

Team Fortress 2

Modern Warfare 3

Dota 2

Starcraft 2

Diablo 3

 

Campaign games sadly I have to be very picky as I can't pour so much time in completing them. Multiplayer is easier just play and forget. Single player always has me wanting to play without stop to uncover the plot or explore as much as possible.

 

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Originally Posted by AxelDaemon View Post

 

@iEnzo : -amazons meteor mic-  Now that's the prettiest looking mic if I've ever seen one. Though ya know.  My friend borrowing my whole Astro A40 set, I heard his voice.... it was pretty damn clear.  Now that mic alone costs $20 (not that I'm suggesting you get it cause it's the mic attachment to a headphone) so I don't think you had to spend that much for just voice chatting, but hey if this makes you sound like you're sitting right next to them, then more power to you, though this adds a bunch of other things you can do to it, so you probably bought it for more than just that maybe?lol

 

I haven't looked around bout the DSS2, though as far as hissy noise is concerned though just to bring up, "Tritton AX720 was hissy from the get go so it was like a hissier Mixamp"

 

The Mixamp only gets hissy with the volume dial going past 1oclock.  I suggest waiting for other inputs regarding this.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-3-15-2012-dolby-headphone-test-on-1st-post/4605 Here's some discussion about it though

Lucky for you though is that even though it doesn't have a dedicated mic input.  You already got that Meteor Mic so you're covered.

 

As for sound card... (Note: These are all just me repeating what other people have said, I haven't had the chance to personally use em)

 

If you only do music. Essence STX, if you do gaming, use the X-Fi Titanium HD which is geared towards gaming combined with Creatives proprietary technology, X-FI HD still works for music anyhow.  Just supposedly the Essence STX has a little lead on the X-Fi Titanium HD when it comes to music, but its ability to process gaming audio was just as people said "add on at the end as an afterthought"

 

BUT in the next few months a soundcard from Asus dedicated to gaming is coming out.

http://rog.asus.com/62712012/news/rog-xonar-phoebus-soundcard-announced/

 

Might be worth the wait to see what the input on this card will be?


Meteor Mic not just for VOIP but for Podcasting because my friends like to post videos on YouTube. Other factor was when streaming Live games on Own3D. Lastly acting stupid when we have many people in one room shouting commands & blaspheming. Modmic would have been nice but had to order and wait for it to be delivered so I figured hell just get this.

 

I agree with you wholeheartedly on the X-Fi Titanium HD & Essence STX points. Now gonna run through some reviews and check it out. You peaked my interest on the new Asus card but OMFG I hope it's not going to have a delivery date like Diablo 3 confused.gif.

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Due to Creative not having licensed most of their proprietary gaming audio techs, no soundcard can ever outperform X-Fi DSP powered cards, with the X-Fi Titanium HD being literally the best card available for gaming, and having SQ on par with the Asus Xonar Essence STX, meaning any soundcard Asus currently available and soon to be released will always be inferior to even regular X-Fi Titanium cards unless Asus pays Creative tech licensing fees.

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Originally Posted by AxelDaemon View Post
@PFG: Actually when it does come out, did you have plans on checking out the Xonar Phoebus? and how the heck do you hyperlink (where you just have normal text, but it's clickable to provide a link.)  I'm only used to [url=][/url] format.


If you're using the WYSIWYG posting interface like I am, near the middle of the toolbar, you should see a globe icon with a chain below it with a "Link" tooltip. What I do is highlight the text I want to link, then click that and type in the URL in the window that opens, click OK, and it's done.

 

As for the Xonar Phoebus, I'll check it out if someone would kindly lend me a card to test with. Otherwise, I don't see myself spending hundreds of dollars on sound cards just to test them, then selling off the ones I don't like at a loss. It's why I haven't tested the Recon3D cards already.

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