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post #466 of 37324
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You mean the center, right? ;)

 

Make sure to include the rechargeable battery pack, just for practicality. I didn't and bought my own eneloop rechargeable batteries thinking they would charge through the Rx Unit.... they don't. Now I have to remove my batteries and charge them on their own time. A hassle. <_<

 

Also, keep in mind the Mixamp 5.8 only has ONE optical input, so if you have more than one system, you'll have to get an optical switcher like I linked, or constantly remove the optical cables when switching.

 

So for newbies:

 

1. Mixamp 5.8 ($140)

 

2. Astro Rechargeable battery pack ($20)

 

3. Astro 3.5mm to USB cable ($10. Only needed if you plan on voice chatting through PS3)

 

4. Optical (toslink) switcher ($20 on Amazon. Only if you have multiple game systems like a PS3 and 360. Do NOT get the cheap silver and purple one. TRUST me, it sucks. I'd get the black one.)

 

4. 2 optical cables (buy them off monoprice or Amazon for dirt cheap. All optical cables have the same exact SQ, so the cheapest without heavy jacks work best). The 5.8 brings a very frail optical cable so use that as the one that goes from the switcher to the Mixamp.

 

 

That will be all you need. The Mixamp 5.8 brings all other cables you need.

 

Oh yes, not sure if I even need to mention this, but older XBox 360s don't have an optical out, so make sure to get the audio dongle that brings an optical out (when you use HDMI).

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I think necromorphs are already scary enough without being invisible...
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I hate "Wings" too on the Audio Technica headphones. The AD700 was the worst fitting headphone I've ever had because of this. They were extremely loose and had zero clamping force. I did all the mods without much luck. I almost had skipped the ATH-AD2000 because of this but I'm glad I didn't. I'm not trying to convince you to give their headphones another try, but people who hate the wings on the AD700 (like me) might be ok with them on the ATH-AD2000. The AD2000 fits perfectly fine and has much more clamping force. It doesn't move an inch on my head. The overall feel is almost like the K702 on my head. The W1000 however looks like it might have the same fit as the AD700. I hope not.

 

Yeah I meant that the AD2000 might only be better for competitive gaming. The Denon D2000 to me felt like an open headphone, but I still hated it for competitive gaming. I'm sure the D7000 is much better.

 

I get tired of the mids issue too. It seems you can find ANY headphone on here that has recessed mids! I've even heard it said about the K501. I think I do prefer slightly forward mids for gaming though. That's why most very neutral headphones just don't seem to cut it for me for gaming, with the K240 Studio as the exception. I don't think it's as simple as you make it out to be though. My best advice to people on the mids is just try it out with your own ears and take everything with a grain of salt. Only you can tell if the mids sound recessed. I usually could care less what other people say as long as they sound fine to me. For example, the D2000's mids didn't sound recessed at all when I used my Asgard. These days I always go for the headphone with forward mids, since that's what I prefer for music regular_smile%20.gif

 

I liked the Denon D2000 a LOT when properly amped, so I'm sure the D7000 will be a huge improvement. My next headphone to try is maybe the D7000 or W1000. Not like I need any more headphones!

 

As for the K601 vs K702 thing, the imaging and soundstage on the K601 is so much better IMO (not larger, but more accurate), so for me it's worth using it over the K702. The level of detail is just slightly worse. The sound is also very slightly more clear on the K702. The main reason I'd prefer the K601 over the K702 for gaming is that what detail is there is more forward and "in your face", but still accurate. Footsteps are much easier to spot and are heard sooner. For those that are looking for an AKG gaming headphone, I highly suggest the K601 over the K702. For those with the K702 already, it's probably not worth buying. I miss my K601 already. Unfortunately the K601 is still overpriced. It seems like the only way to sell them used is to drop the price down to $160 or $170. That's what I had to do and I wish I didn't. A K601 for gaming at $160 is a steal.
 

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Tdockweiler, I won't look even once into Audio-Technica headphones for one reason, the 3D Wings. That completely ruins the higher end ATs for me. I absolutely despise that style of headband.

Do the AD2000 and D7000 compare? I highly doubt it. The D7000 isn't a headphone I would consider for competitive gaming, but more for the home theater sound they have. I'm willing to bet the AD2000 would be better suited for competitive gaming, not home theater sound.

I'm not even gonna start on forward mids or mid recession, as that topic seriously pisses me off. Its so blown out of proportion on here, I refuse to even consider debating this. The mids to me are either clear and audible or muffled and too silent. The D7000s mids are incredibly clear and audible. End of story.

As for K70x vs K601, I love the K70x because of its awesome detail. I find the positioning to be god tier, so going to a less detailed phone for more unnecessary positioning is a downgrade for me.

As for closed headphones for gaming, well the large soundstage closed cans like the DT770 and D7000 would like to have a word with you. They are more geared towards fun gaming, but I could say that the positional cues may be even better than open headphones. But for the most part, closed headphones will have a sound too tight and restricted to recommend.

Halehaler, my scores shouldn't be compared. I base my scores off overall performance of the headphone itself, and not how it stacks up compared to others. Also, the KSC75 gets high scores also factoring price. Another also, the KSC75 is open and the CAL is closed. Due to the ridiculously low price, I would suggest getting both. The KSC75 is geared more for competitive gaming, while the CAL is more on the fun side.
post #469 of 37324

Ok, thanks for all your help I'm almost there now.

 

There is only one thing I don't understand, what's all this optical stuff?

 

I though you just plugged your headphones in the headphones jack, and your xbox360/ps3 controller into the controller jack?

 

Why do I need optical cables and switchers, and  what do they do?

 

Sorry I'm a total noob, these should be my last questions.

post #470 of 37324

Well... the Mixamp needs to be connected to your console... somehow.

 

What good is plugging into something that isn't plugged into your system?

post #471 of 37324
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halehaler, the optical cable is what goes from your game system to the Mixamp. This is purely an audio cable. You know how HDMi is a video/audio cable that goes from your systems to your TV for picture and sound, right? Well, you need something going from the game system to the Mixamp to get sound, right? That's what the optical cable is. Of course the red and white cables (known as RCA)  also pass audio, but it's ONLY stereo. Optical sends Dolby Digital and DTS (though the Mixamp is a Dolby Digital decoder, not DTS).

 

I suggest really reading up in the astrogaming website to see how everything is connected...

 

There's no such thing as a stupid question, though most your answers are online on the very websites of the products you wanna look into. Google is also your friend. ;)

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halehaler, the optical cable is what goes from your game system to the Mixamp. This is purely an audio cable. You know how HDMi is a video/audio cable that goes from your systems to your TV for picture and sound, right? Well, you need something going from the game system to the Mixamp to get sound, right? That's what the optical cable is. Of course the red and white cables (known as RCA)  also pass audio, but it's ONLY stereo. Optical sends Dolby Digital and DTS (though the Mixamp is a Dolby Digital decoder, not DTS).

 

I suggest really reading up in the astrogaming website to see how everything is connected...

 

There's no such thing as a stupid question, though most your answers are online on the very websites of the products you wanna look into. Google is also your friend. ;)

 

Just to clarify a few things.


You could experience sound from the mix amp with RCA cables, but the sound quality will be vastly inferior to optical...

 

If you would like to experience the best possible sound quality from the mix amp use a optical connection, to unleash the full potential of the mix amp, not RCA cables (Nothing wrong with RCA cables).

 

Now the only question remains, is the price tag?

 

Just a few thoughts...

post #473 of 37324

edit: removed due to problem with review video


Edited by Xpresser - 2/14/11 at 4:00pm
post #474 of 37324
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Did a comparison test video between the built in mic of the Sennheiser PC 360 and the stand alone Labtec LVA-7330. Pretty clear difference I believe.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3x1d8chgBg



For some reason I'm having trouble getting any audio from the video...frown.gif

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For some reason I'm having trouble getting any audio from the video...frown.gif


Thanks for the heads up. I can hear it but I'm getting other reports that some can not. Not sure what that is about. I'll remove it for now and redo it.

post #476 of 37324

The voice is there but it's really really small.

post #477 of 37324

So is this kind of optical cable good for the mixamp? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Duronic-1M-Goldspec-Resolution-Professional/dp/B002VBAZ60/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297753985&sr=8-2

 

And will this act as a music amp for my KSC 75's? Or is it only built for games?

 

Or shall I get a FiiO amp? The E5 is £17, The E7 is £64 and The E9 is £90?

post #478 of 37324
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So is this kind of optical cable good for the mixamp? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Duronic-1M-Goldspec-Resolution-Professional/dp/B002VBAZ60/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297753985&sr=8-2

 

And will this act as a music amp for my KSC 75's? Or is it only built for games?

 

Or shall I get a FiiO amp? The E5 is £17, The E7 is £64 and The E9 is £90?

 

Any optical cable is fine, it's a digital signal, so either you get all of it, or none of it, there really isn't a middle ground. That cable is a bit overpriced, but it will work fine.

 

I'd advise picking the appropriate length cable from here: http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229

post #479 of 37324

Anyone tried using the ultrasones with the mixamp? I am curious how the surround tech they have works with DH

post #480 of 37324
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Originally Posted by halehaler View Post

So is this kind of optical cable good for the mixamp? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Duronic-1M-Goldspec-Resolution-Professional/dp/B002VBAZ60/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297753985&sr=8-2

 

And will this act as a music amp for my KSC 75's? Or is it only built for games?

 

Or shall I get a FiiO amp? The E5 is £17, The E7 is £64 and The E9 is £90?


Get the cheapest cable that isn't ridiculously fragile. All cables have the same exact SQ (the sound is transmitted through light, you either get the signal or you don't).

 

The Mixamp is NOT a music amp. If you use it as one, I'd suggest turning off Dolby Headphone when you do anything that isn't gaming or movies. It won't be better than something like the E7 or E9. I personally would skip the E5 and get the E7 for now. What do you listen music on? The E7 is a DAC and AMP. If you're mainly gonna listen to music off your PC, a DAC will override your soundcard and take over sound processing, which is almost always better than listening off a laptop soundcard.

 

I forget what headphones you are going to have.

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