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MCarter, I haven't received my NFB5 yet. I'm anxious. XD

As for the Dolby Headphone tests on youtube, they are actually NOT Dolby Headphone. They are binaural recordings falsely labeled as DH. They have similarities, but they are not the same. Dolby Headphone doesn't do rear sounds THAT good, and front sounds are better on DH. On Binaural, front sounds appear to come from above your head. Those are the tradeoffs.
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MCarter, I haven't received my NFB5 yet. I'm anxious. XD
As for the Dolby Headphone tests on youtube, they are actually NOT Dolby Headphone. They are binaural recordings falsely labeled as DH. They have similarities, but they are not the same. Dolby Headphone doesn't do rear sounds THAT good, and front sounds are better on DH. On Binaural, front sounds appear to come from above your head. Those are the tradeoffs.


It's a different HRTF profile.  For example, Rapture's red and green HRTFs seem to do that for me, but Amber seems to put front sounds in front.  

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Just wanna mention that I feel the Q701 responds very favorably to the Mixamp 5.8's bass boost. Good full bodied bass, yet retaining the quality sound. Its a subtle boost, but noticeable.
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Just wanna mention that I feel the Q701 responds very favorably to the Mixamp 5.8's bass boost. Good full bodied bass, yet retaining the quality sound. Its a subtle boost, but noticeable.


It'd probably pair great with the DSS bass boost.  The DSS had tighter bass boost with more impact, and it seemed to clip less than the mixamps bass boost.  I could leave it on all the time and not get distracted by the pops and clipping. 

 

The DSS 2 seems to have ditched the bass boost knob for an electronic EQ switch (with only two bass settings I think), so it may not perform as good as the first DSS...

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Hey MLE, you know that bass heavy Overclocked Remix song you posted earlier? I think I may have found myself a new bass testing song along similar lines. Done by a guy from OCR? Check. Insane bass? Check. Here ya go - http://soundcloud.com/prototyperaptor/fenech-soler-demons-raptoredit/

As I was messing around I also found myself an awesome test for headphone surround. As an anime fan I'm assuming you've seen Eva Rebuild. Just load up the Blu-Ray, flip on the headphone surround (I actually forgot the first time to flip on 5.1 inside my media player), and skip to the final fight scene in Eva 1.11 with all the point defense systems opening fire. My jaw was on the floor!

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So I've got a question about the PC360: When I turn down the volume on the cup, that's electronically identical to raising the output impedance of my source, correct?  

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Yeah, Prototyperaptor is just amazing.

In any case, I absolutely HATED the original EVA and its WTF ending, so no on Rebuild. Unless they dramatically changed the plot to something less derptastic, I won't even look into it.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/13/12 at 2:55am
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Yeah, Prototyperaptor is just amazing.
In any case, I absolutely HATED the original EVA and its WTF ending, so no on Rebuild. Unless they dramatically changed the plot to something less derptastic, I won't even look into it.

Did you see that PR hour-long mix I posted earlier in the thread? Completely nuts.


I for one skipped the final 2 eps of Eva and EoE, which saved me from the mindscrew. So far I'm liking Rebuild a lot. The first volume (1.11 for the English version) is almost exactly the same as the first 6.5 eps of the original. 2.22 goes in an whole new direction and even introduces a new pilot. Though I will say I'd still recommend watching the first as it's the only series I've seen that simply HAS to be watched in HD. The animation is just that good, regardless of how they choose to end it this time around (that's going to be volume 4 when it comes out, 3 is supposed to come out this year). Probably helps that it's the Japanese equivalent of James Cameron making Avatar years later after pocketing a cool billion from Titanic, I can't even imagine what the Japanese are budgeting for Rebuild. IMO it's worth watching even if you can't stomach the screwy storyline, assuming you watch it in HD. And there's one part in 1.11 near the end where they dance around the entire soundstage that just floored me when I tested it with virtual surround, they take a part which would otherwise just be a very long sequence of "charging laser, please wait" and just spew cannon fire and random NERV treknobabble at you from all 5 channels. Very cool effect and it really shows off an epic soundstage in my Beyers.

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I'll wait until it's all out before I give it a chance. Since they went a new direction, I can see if it's good. I'm extremely picky with my anime. I drop them as soon as they start to bore me.
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Hey MLE, you know that bass heavy Overclocked Remix song you posted earlier? I think I may have found myself a new bass testing song along similar lines. Done by a guy from OCR? Check. Insane bass? Check. Here ya go - http://soundcloud.com/prototyperaptor/fenech-soler-demons-raptoredit/


(Not to turn this into a song thread.)

Damn I am loving this guys work. His style is a lot of fun and reminds me a lot of Madeon. Lots of foot tapping and head nodding going on. These songs are just kicking so hard with the DT's. Even off my crappy Realtek sound card.

I am a huge Pendulum fan and I am loving Proto's remix I just keep going back to it.

 

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I have a terrible memory. Hailin, did you buy the 990 Pros based off my recommendation? If so, how you liking them for gaming? Anything you feel they lack?

I always wanna know if what I recommend is working out, because I feel bad if it doesn't.
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I have a terrible memory. Hailin, did you buy the 990 Pros based off my recommendation? If so, how you liking them for gaming? Anything you feel they lack?
I always wanna know if what I recommend is working out, because I feel bad if it doesn't.

 

Yes, and some extra research.
I really wanted some Denons originally but worried the soundstage wasn't going to cut it for me. Very difficult for me, if impossible, to test all these different suggestions due to my location.

After the disappointment that was the HD598. You and I had the very same experience with them. This reminds me I really have to get them up on the for sale forum. (hint hint any Canadians, lol)

I really wanted the Premium 600 but I had two issues. I couldn't get them in Canada (Very Expensive) and I knew I wasn't going to be able to get an amp for them anytime soon. I happen to stumble across a store that sold the Pros for 200 up here. After reading some of Mal's comments on the Pros vs Premium being very close in sound other then the clamping force (Which can be fixed).

 

For gaming I have only played some KoA:Reckoning sound is very subpar and rear dolby is sort of muffled on the ps3. I thought it was the system but FF13-2 rear placement is just fine. To be honest neither of these games force rear placement. The coolest is Saints Row 3 on the XBOX that is some beautiful noise. So boomy, loud and sharp. Explosions with shrapnel bouncing all around you. They are very home theater sounding. Deep bass/bright highs/slightly hidden mids.(HD598 makes sweet love to mid range.) As you have said in the past very V-shaped. I really want to lend them to my brother as he is the shooter guy and get his opinion. I think you are right though the bass would be way to much for a COD/BF3 player but honestly I don't know cause I can't speak from experience.

 

They are very close to the Superlux HD668B. With a slightly larger soundstage, and better resolution. My Luxes have higher highs, and less bass impact. If someone wants to try a cheap 990 Beyer knock off they are the ones to check out.

 

Damn it I got all wordy again. I really need to stop doing that, sorry. redface.gif I still want to try some Denons and the Q701. Need something for soundtracks and acoustic material.

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I think the Q701 would be a better HD598, but not leaps and bounds better. The Q701 is definitely better for me personally, but the improvement may not be worthwhile to you. Better bass, less forward mids, and pretty even treble. Its a fuller sound for sure, but if you're looking for mids, the Qs won't beat the HD598.

Just for me, the Q701s sound more involved with everything, making them more cohesive as a whole, where I felt the dynamics in the HD598 weren't exceptional.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/13/12 at 11:31pm
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If you have a Creative soundcard in your PC (cheap one is only $25) you can bypass the cheap internal hardware and pipe the software processing to any DAC you'd like. It's CMSS instead of Dolby, but it works quite well. I posted a step-by-step guide over in the Nameless PC thread.



thanks for that! you may have saved me a few hundred $ there haha

 

does this mean that you can have a separate output devices for playback and recording?

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thanks for that! you may have saved me a few hundred $ there haha

 

does this mean that you can have a separate output devices for playback and recording?


Yeah, the "What U Hear" doesn't have to be set as the primary recording device to enable porting, so you can still use a mic and talk to someone on Mumble/Vent/TS if that's what you're asking. Just make sure that your audio device in the program is set to the default recording device, not the Creative DSP capture. It's done that way in Windows 7 because that feature was originally designed to let you plug in your iPod to the mic in port with a M-M 3.5mm jack.

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