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How would the Ultrasone HFI-780 compare to the DT990 for gaming/movies? The HFI-780 are on sale for $170 and I'm thinking of picking them up.



The Hfi-780s would give you more of a theater-like experience. A lot of people praise them for gaming, but there are also some people who say they never found them astounding for gaming. It's a toss up, primarily because Ultrasone uses S-Logic, which is basically supposed to emulate surround sound with the way the drivers are angled etc. When you pair that with something else that attempts to emulate surround sound, you can either get one badass surround effect or a horrible, cross reflecting sound cues. I don't have any experience, but I know I almost bought them specifically for gaming and movies. $170 is a sick price, they are also closed. 


I didn't realize they are closed. I had to consider them because the were on sale and on Amazon they were one of the few that actually ships to Canada. The search continues I guess. I'm still waiting on a good price for some DT990/600ohm or DT880/600ohm.

There's a Long and Mcquade near me that sells the DT990 Pro 250ohms and the DT770 PRO 250ohms but I don't know how they compare to the Premium 600ohms. They are all around $180-$200

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Hey man good review and thanks.  I too am on the upgraditis side of things.  I do however suggest you check out the a40's again as i have owned every gaming headset possible for the xbox.  From tritton 720's to turtle beach's mixed with the mixamp to my all time favorite the a40 mixamp combination.  The a40's really are kind of bland and don't have a fun appeal to them in anyway and suck for music.  Soundstage on them and pinpoint accuracy is top notch though.  Of all the headsets i have owned the astros make everything else seem like a joke.  I also have tried the m-50 combo and just like you stated  they sound good for music but when it comes to sound stage -they make sounds and then they hit a brick wall.  I was so disgusted.

I am interested in trying out the k701s as you have suggested but i am very much considering diving in for the ah-d5000's as they are a company primarily focusing on home theater and music.  I have heard that the ahd line is rediculous when it comes to sound stage and can compare with most open back cans.  Very intriguing.  It shows that you currently have the d7000 and i was curious as to what you think about them with gaming.  I know i will like them for music but i i really need that pinpoint accurasy from being wide and full of depth.  please reply. thanks

tritton axpro=absolutely waste of money.  five speakers mixing up frequencies make for a disgusting blur of sounds.

tritton ax-720=not a bad choice for gaming especially for the price.  bassy theater feel to them.  sound positioning will leave you turning your guy left or right to try and get a more precise location.  fun for campaign though.  Has potential but still feel like i'm listening to speakers

Astro mixamp turtle beach hpx= mixamp is amazing turtle beaches are straight up garbage, do not waste your money

astro mixamp a40.   For competitive gaming only.  You do not feel like you have headphones on.  makes you feel like you are in the game.  everything is soft sounded but really does a good job making sure you hear all the suttle sounds.  Very airy for music but when you hear footstep on mw2 you know exactly where they are at no questions asked.  While playing search and destroy i can let team mates know exactly where the sounds are coming from no questions asked.  If there is a sound i tell you exactly where they are at.

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black ops uses a dynamic compression audio setting.  Setting the setting on loud disables this so you have to have it loud to hear the smallest things.  having it set to quiet makes it enabled and makes it so the smallest sounds are amplified. hope this helps and yes it was researched and found on the black ops website

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For people with a good dedicated internal sound card, why do they also get a DAC? Isn't the sound card already doing the conversion? Also I hear some gamers getting the USB Audio-gd Sparrow. In order to have some sort of 3d effect they would need something like a Mixamp correct?

As far as gamer sound cards go, is the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD the best for headphones? It sounds like CMSS is superior to Dolby Headphone. So that would knock everyone off the list but Creative right? Creative has a few CMSS products that are a little cheaper, but they look several generations older. Reviews say that they can hear a difference between the Titanium HD and other X-fi products. I'm just not totally buying it.

I see that there is a little something mentioned about closed headphones, but nothing in depth. Does anyone have any experience regarding closed cans for gaming? Is there a similar thread to this for closed cans?

I'm considering getting the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD >> Little Dot MK II >> DT990/600

Does that look like a pretty solid setup?

My only concerns is that in a loud environment that the DT990s wont be able to keep up. And the life or a tube amp if I use my PC 24/7 for Youtube, web browsing, movies, music, games, window start up tones... you get the picture. Not just for easy listening several hours a day or 1-2hr gaming sessions. This would be for everything. So I started to consider maybe the FiiO E9 or HeadRoom Total AirHead amp. But then I read that they aren't as warm as a tube and that you may need a tube to make the DT990 more tolerable.
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Closed headphones are a lot more sensitive to Dolby Headphone. Some can be really good for gaming, but some can be lackluster due to an enclosed sound. Soundstage isn't IMPORTANT, but it really helps with picking out directional cues around you. The sense of space really helps me out. That's why open headphones are usually better.

I think someone asked about the D7000 with gaming. I already gave my thoughts. Check the first post.
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Closed headphones are a lot more sensitive to Dolby Headphone. Some can be really good for gaming, but some can be lackluster due to an enclosed sound. Soundstage isn't IMPORTANT, but it really helps with picking out directional cues around you. The sense of space really helps me out. That's why open headphones are usually better.

I think someone asked about the D7000 with gaming. I already gave my thoughts. Check the first post.


DH on my closed HFi-780s was ok but felt artificial on the reverby modes and a little congested. In contrast tho Denon D2000s sound generally like an open can and feels closer to my DH favorite the mighty HD650. I still prefer the D2000 for gaming due to the livlier feel and deep bass.  This may change as I have a ultrasone pro900 on the way and are meant to have pinpoint imaging and are basshead royalty so they may be my ultimate 'phone.

 

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If I hadn't bought the D7000, I may have given the Ultrasone Pro 900 a whirl. Now, it's kind of moot, lol.

 

My next headphone venture will most likely be a Grado. Thinking between the MS1i, or SR225i with comfies. Not sure which yet, and these aren't intended for gaming use, ever.

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Mad Lust Envy: ( or anyone that has used the astro mixmp with the fiio e9) I want to experiment something. I already use my dt990/600's via e9/mixamp with a 3.5 mm male to male so I know how to hook that up. I wanted to know if you can use the e9 and mixamp with a headset and have the voice ability be used. I tried the conventional way like how my dt 990's worked as e9->3.5->mixamp->dt990 in e9.. Now i tried my headset the same way but the y adapter into the e9 and the headset into the y adapter thinking it might work but it doesn't. Can this be done with a headset for vioce chat or can you only use the e9/mixamp for headphones?

 

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Mad Lust Envy: ( or anyone that has used the astro mixmp with the fiio e9) I want to experiment something. I already use my dt990/600's via e9/mixamp with a 3.5 mm male to male so I know how to hook that up. I wanted to know if you can use the e9 and mixamp with a headset and have the voice ability be used. I tried the conventional way like how my dt 990's worked as e9->3.5->mixamp->dt990 in e9.. Now i tried my headset the same way but the y adapter into the e9 and the headset into the y adapter thinking it might work but it doesn't. Can this be done with a headset for vioce chat or can you only use the e9/mixamp for headphones?

 


You could try going Mixamp -> Y-Adapter->3.5mm male to male (plugged into the green headphone plug) -> to E9.  Then run the mic past all of that back into the Y-adapter's mic input...

 

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exaCTLY. I do it that way
 

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Mad Lust Envy: ( or anyone that has used the astro mixmp with the fiio e9) I want to experiment something. I already use my dt990/600's via e9/mixamp with a 3.5 mm male to male so I know how to hook that up. I wanted to know if you can use the e9 and mixamp with a headset and have the voice ability be used. I tried the conventional way like how my dt 990's worked as e9->3.5->mixamp->dt990 in e9.. Now i tried my headset the same way but the y adapter into the e9 and the headset into the y adapter thinking it might work but it doesn't. Can this be done with a headset for vioce chat or can you only use the e9/mixamp for headphones?

 


You could try going Mixamp -> Y-Adapter->3.5mm male to male (plugged into the green headphone plug) -> to E9.  Then run the mic past all of that back into the Y-adapter's mic input...

 

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I posted this before. Yes you can and thats the set up most of my friends have.  Mine is the same minus the amp for now, but I'm going to add one soon, prolly the E9 as well.

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Only slightly more professional looking then my MS paint graphic tongue_smile.gif

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Don't know how i passed the d7000 on your list but  i did manage. maybe i had thought i saw the audio tech 700s.  Thanks for everything again.  Also why the grado's.  Do the denon's not do it for you in terms of music?  I've been going through forums for the past couple days and one of the main threads is "headphones i regret buying the most" almost every other headphone stated on there was a grado.  Also going through a lot of the members on the sight i have not found hardly anyone that still has the grados just "had" them and none of them stating that they wish they had them back.  I know everyone's taste in music is different and i know from bmx riding that nothing is ever going to be exactly what you want.  When forced to deal with what i've used after spending tens of thousands of dollars i was forced to reconsile with mixmatching parts that i knew worked for me in the past and i couldn't have believe how confortable i felt knowing that had made the right choice.

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Oh hell no, the D7000 MADE me stop looking for another music phone. I'm looking at Grados now because I want something fully open I can take to work that isn't lol huge. I work quiet nights alone and tend to have my headphones on for about 4+ hours a night, but I can't be isolated from outside noise, which is why I want Grados. I've also always been curious about them. The KSC75 serves this purpose very well but I wanna try something a little higher up in the audio food chain.
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If you like the d7000, it does get better. Now you need to step up to the LA7000.

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