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Originally Posted by Miniscream View Post

What? I was told really only the AX720 amp and  MixAmp were the only amps that allowed to you have quality sound and be able to use a mic on XBOX.


You can always put a stronger amp after the mixamp.
 

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Originally Posted by Outcast View Post

Only getting the e5 if I get the k701/2 because some people have mentioned that if you mix voice and game chat the mixamp can't really push the drivers in those particular headphones. If I were to get the pc360 I would have no need for the e5.


But the E5 isn't going to be strong enough for the 701.

 

post #3092 of 37330

Oh so you plan on to double amp? Or just not voice chat on the XBOX?

 

EDIT: Didn't see the last post so I guess I'm editing this. Since I clearly am bent on being able to have voice monitoring, are there any amps I can double up with or a single one I can get for quality sound and to hear myself with the D7000 and the DealExtreme clip on mic? I still have a $400 budget, and found out I can go up to 600 now with my refund on all my Astro products (of course, saving some).


Edited by Miniscream - 1/11/12 at 12:35pm
post #3093 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Miniscream View Post

But the E5 isn't going to be strong enough for the 701.



Hmm I was under the impression that it would be but in any event this is exactly why I decided to post here. Which amp would you suggest using?

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Originally Posted by Miniscream View Post

Oh so you plan on to double amp? Or just not voice chat on the XBOX?

 

EDIT: Didn't see the last post so I guess I'm editing this. Since I clearly am bent on being able to have voice monitoring, are there any amps I can double up with or a single one I can get for quality sound and to hear myself with the D7000 and the DealExtreme clip on mic?


Would double amp to have voice chat.
post #3094 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Outcast View Post

Hmm I was under the impression that it would be but in any event this is exactly why I decided to post here. Which amp would you suggest using?


Probably the Objective2 if you're going to use it for music and/or other headphones as well and the E9 if you're on more of a budget.

post #3095 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Outcast View Post

Ok do I have spent the better part of the last 3 days reading everything about headphone/set. At this moment I'm leaning towards the k701/2 with a mixamp, undecided on wireless/wired, and the e5 amp.
Overall want the best sound quality and don't see the k701 set up too inconvenient to avoid it in favor of a headset. That said if the difference in sound quality is minuscule then there is no reason not to get the pc360's.


For multiplayer, K702 sounds SuperB. I used it without an amp from wired mixamp.

 

If you will listen to music too, I think K702 is better than PC360. However, if you are only going to play, I'm sure MLE will favour PC360.

 

I doubt E5 will make a difference with K702

 

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For competitive gaming, The K701/K702 is god mode, even moreso than the PC360. If I didn't use a mic, the K701 would be my top choice, followed by the HD598, and then AD700. The AD700 is super beastly, but the other two are more enjoyable as a whole.

The E5 is pathetically weak for amping if you want voice chat. Nothing less than the E11 will suffice.

You do not need an amp for the D7000 with or without voice chat. Its super sensitive, and the Mixamp alone will make it loud even with voice mixed in.

So I gave in and ordered the Rechargeable battery pack and ps3 chat cable for my Mixamp. UGH... $20 shipping. Last thing I'll buy from astro... ever...at least unless they make a newer, more convenient mixamp. I'm so weak. mad.gif
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/11/12 at 2:35pm
post #3097 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

For competitive gaming, The K701/K702 is god mode, even moreso than the PC360. If I didn't use a mic, the K701 would be my top choice, followed by the HD598, and then AD700. The AD700 is super beastly, but the other two are more enjoyable as a whole.
The E5 is pathetically weak for amping if you want voice chat. Nothing less than the E11 will suffice.
You do not need an amp for the D7000 with or without voice chat. Its super sensitive, and the Mixamp alone will make it loud even with voice mixed in.
So I gave in and ordered the Rechargeable battery pack and ps3 chat cable for my Mixamp. UGH... $20 shipping. Last thing I'll buy from astro... ever...at least unless they make a newer, more convenient mixamp. I'm so weak. mad.gif

 

Why not use a stand alone mic with the k701/2? Personal preference or any reason in particular? reason i ask is because i also use voice chat 90% of the time when im on xbox live so still being able to do that is required, but as i stated earlier would rather have better audio and deal with a stand alone mic
 

 

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Hi all,

My first post, but I've read quite a bit recently.

I wrote Mad Lust Envy a PM, but I figured someone else might benefit from the answers to my questions.

I just got the wireless mmixamp 5.8, and the hiss is quite audible for me. I wonder if it is because of the integrated amp (probably the same one as in the wired pro model) or because of the wireless transmission. The transmission should be digital, so that seems rather unlikely as well. I think they just called it 'secure' on the asto HP. I've just tested it directly with my akg k 540 and senns HD 485, but I plan on using it with the o2 amp and Q701phones. I rather like the wireless freedom (with low impedance phones), but the hiss kinda bothers me, as I'd like to use it for movies as well. It's at the same level up to about 12 o'clock and gets noticeably louder from there.

1) Anyways, is the hiss in the 5.8 louder, than in the wired pro model?

2) Would you recommed exchanging it for the pro? I don't care about the extra connectivity on the pro and there's no price difference for me (the cheaper pro would cost the same, if I factor in shipping costs for the exchange).

3) Is the integrated DAC any good? Would be practical to use it for music (via optical out from the PC), as it's probably better than the typical onboard sound card.

4) Does a headphone amp affect the hiss in any way? (good or bad)

The Turtle Beach DSS is supposed to have an even louder hiss than the mixamps. I tried the headphone out on the XP500 base station, and the hiss on the mixamp was louder.

5) Did someone already test the new DSS2?  Is it comparable to the DSS in terms of hiss? Altering the surround angles would be neat, I guess.

 

thx for all your input.
 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

For competitive gaming, The K701/K702 is god mode, even moreso than the PC360. If I didn't use a mic, the K701 would be my top choice, followed by the HD598, and then AD700. The AD700 is super beastly, but the other two are more enjoyable as a whole.
The E5 is pathetically weak for amping if you want voice chat. Nothing less than the E11 will suffice.
You do not need an amp for the D7000 with or without voice chat. Its super sensitive, and the Mixamp alone will make it loud even with voice mixed in.
So I gave in and ordered the Rechargeable battery pack and ps3 chat cable for my Mixamp. UGH... $20 shipping. Last thing I'll buy from astro... ever...at least unless they make a newer, more convenient mixamp. I'm so weak. mad.gif


dont get the battery pack, get some eneloops (or other LSD battery). much better performance and lower cost too

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I am looking to step up from my Lux HD668B. I really wanted a pair of D2000 but not for 500 in Canada no way.

I can snag a pair of DT990 pro 250ohm for 180. I am really looking for an upgrade to my Lux's. I also thought of the 598 but I don't know if I would enjoy the warmer Senn sound. My ears are pretty damn sensitive I usually have my mixamp at 12 oclock with mic mix almost all the way to the right. If I turn off the mic I have to almost turn the damn sound down to 9 to 10 o'clock which is where the mixamp can't balance properly and leads to a lot of crackling.

Those that don't know the HD668's are a bit warmer then most Luxs but still super bright. I love clarity above all else. Bass is nice and all but not at the cost of the other frequencies.

I am going to scroll back a few pages and reread what MLE wrote on the DT990 250's but i am wondering if I should jump on this price of 180 or buy a set of velours (AKG 240 pads) for my lux's and call it done.

 

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Mad Lust, what version of DT990 did you use (how many ohms) any does it has "Pro" attached to it? What was the setup? You rated it as 9 for fun and 8 for competitive so I'm really interested. I'm thinking of getting a Xonar DX sound card (which has Dolby Headphones) ---> E9 --> DT990 Pro (250 ohms).

 

I did some searching and it seems the non pro version seems really hard to find. Every DT990 I looked at either had Pro or Premium attached to it.


Edited by sabzingeur - 1/11/12 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by sabzingeur View Post

Mad Lust, what version of DT990 did you use (how many ohms) any does it has "Pro" attached to it? What was the setup? You rated it as 9 for fun and 8 for competitive so I'm really interested. I'm thinking of getting a Xonar DX sound card (which has Dolby Headphones) ---> E9 --> DT990 Pro (250 ohms).

 

I did some searching and it seems the non pro version seems really hard to find.



He's using the 600 ohm version (see his signature, "DT 990/600" indicates "[model]/[impedance]")

 

The "non-Pro" version is marketed as "Premium". 

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Originally Posted by Outcast View Post

Only getting the e5 if I get the k701/2 because some people have mentioned that if you mix voice and game chat the mixamp can't really push the drivers in those particular headphones. If I were to get the pc360 I would have no need for the e5.

 


If your strictly playing MW3, I would just get the PC360s and be done.  There's a refurb set on Amazon (authorized dealer/warranty) for $150.  If your going to use them for single player and music....then maybe get the AKGs....

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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

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If your strictly playing MW3, I would just get the PC360s and be done.  There's a refurb set on Amazon (authorized dealer/warranty) for $150.  If your going to use them for single player and music....then maybe get the AKGs....



They will end up being my everyday headphones, don't listen to much music but i do play a lot of other games on the pc, xbox, and ps3. All in all at the moment not sure if the 701's are 100 dollars better than the pc360's which is the price difference in the setups I'm looking at right now.

post #3105 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Outcast View Post

They will end up being my everyday headphones, don't listen to much music but i do play a lot of other games on the pc, xbox, and ps3. All in all at the moment not sure if the 701's are 100 dollars better than the pc360's which is the price difference in the setups I'm looking at right now.


Just based on what I've read, the PC360 looks like a more practical option here. Built-in mic, not picky about amping.

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