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I missed what direct mode is.  I'm guessing you're using it to bypass DSP while listening to music on the PC; if so try using WASPI or ASIO exclusive mode on your music player.

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USB and SPDIF Direct Mode that bypasses the SB-Axx1™ DSP for bit perfect digital audio conversion.


All I know is that it measures significantly better, as well as sounding noticeably better in real world testing. Earfonia's review goes in depth http://www.head-fi.org/t/756102/creative-sound-blaster-x7-detailed-review-impressions

As for player, I'm a diueheard winamp user. Tried the other stuff before, didn't notice any real world improvements. All I know is that Direct mode was noticeable over the dsp mode (even when dsp options are all turned off).
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All I know is that it measures significantly better, as well as sounding noticeably better in real world testing. Earfonia's review goes in depth http://www.head-fi.org/t/756102/creative-sound-blaster-x7-detailed-review-impressions

As for player, I'm a diueheard winamp user. Tried the other stuff before, didn't notice any real world improvements. All I know is that Direct mode was noticeable over the dsp mode (even when dsp options are all turned off).

 

I have been using Winamp for ages as well and I plan on sticking with it.  Here's the plugin I use to bypass DSP on my Omni.  It should work the same for your X7 as well:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/588677/a-short-audiophile-guide-to-winamp-w-maiko-wasapi

 

The one gotcha with this setup is that you can't use sound in any other apps when you're playing music with WASPI enabled.  Youtube videos won't start, some games won't even launch.  But if you stop your music (you can leave Winamp open, just stopped and not paused), everything works like normal.

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All I know is that it measures significantly better, as well as sounding noticeably better in real world testing. Earfonia's review goes in depth http://www.head-fi.org/t/756102/creative-sound-blaster-x7-detailed-review-impressions

As for player, I'm a diueheard winamp user. Tried the other stuff before, didn't notice any real world improvements. All I know is that Direct mode was noticeable over the dsp mode (even when dsp options are all turned off).

With direct mode turned off, the data goes through the DSP then the DAC chip. I believe, and don't quote me on this as I'm going off the other cards I've used from Creative, but the DSP downscales things to 96 kb/s whereas Direct Mode doesn't touch the digital signal (as the DSP in the ZxR couldn't handle anything above 96 kb/s unless you used direct mode.)

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Where are you located. The Fidelio X2's customer service issue seems to be a problem basically in the USA. Other countries don't seem to have the same customer center/number, and are helped a bit faster. I think the X2 is worth the risk, certainly. The TH600 is special too, but it's more v-shaped, and not as well tested and experienced by many people. I may be in love with them, but I don't wanna be the only opinion that matters to you. I suggest reading up on these headphones via other reviews too.

I'm leaning on personally recommending the X2 mainly because it has a more balanced sound with less tonal shifts, plenty of praise and reviews, and cheaper price.

How do the The K712 pro's stack up against the Fidelio X2's?

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How do the The K712 pro's stack up against the Fidelio X2's?

that's a good question. The fidelio has a bigger driver but the akg has a more open design.

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Both would fall in the open all rounder area, with the K712 being the more open sounding and balanced of the two. My choice, personally, would be the K712.
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Imo the Creative Aurvana Live sound VERY open for a closed headphone

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I've done that Still, and I don't feel it's any real difference from just using Winamp alone without those special steps. If something is too much of a hassle for no honest to goodness real world difference, I don't use it.

I missed the TH900 delivery. Now i gotta pick it up tomorrow. Bah. They usually leave the package in the front door, bit i guess it's a bit too pricey.
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Wow Mad, sorry to hear about all your troubles. I guess I haven't had most of them, because I usually just play on my PlayStation 4. I will say that I've been trying to do twitch streaming with a new piece of software recently, and I have experienced some freezing and slow down. I didn't know if it was due to the X7, the game I was playing and it's installation, twitch, the twitch broadcasting app, or even the dual shock controller I had plugged into the PC. With all those variables, imagine the nightmare I was having in troubleshooting the source! For example, I included the dual shock because I have noticed that after two levels of Devil May Cry, I suddenly get massive frame rate drops which go away immediately after I unplugged the USB from my dual shock!

So looking forward to mainly going back to Mac.
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I couldn't switch between the speaker taps and the line out. Imagine my surprise when I plugged my Magni to see whether I can hear a difference and the sound was coming literally outside my head.
I'll have to get that extension cable from Recon 3d and use that for chat. Much more elegant solution than thr cable mess I have now.

What do you mean?

Which I could show you guys all the absolute BS that I'm going through. Then you'd understand why I get so pissed off with this thing.

There is no option to switch between speaker taps and the line output so, what i thought was a clean signal going to my Magni, was actually a clean signal going to both the Magni and the speaker taps.

 

Important stuff: Creative rep got back to me. In order to send SBX processed two channel audio through S/PDIF You need to send 5.1 signal to the X7 and then set the Speakers/ Headphones configurations to 2.0/2.1 S/PDIF Direct. I'm pretty sure this is not what we were hoping to achieve but it's worth a try nonetheless.


Edited by Yethal - 3/16/15 at 4:54pm
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I've done that Still, and I don't feel it's any real difference from just using Winamp alone without those special steps. If something is too much of a hassle for no honest to goodness real world difference, I don't use it.

I missed the TH900 delivery. Now i gotta pick it up tomorrow. Bah. They usually leave the package in the front door, bit i guess it's a bit too pricey.

 

Sorry if I wasn't clear.  The real world difference is being able to keep SBX on at all times, while still having your music bypass the DSP (similar to the Direct Mode that you couldn't get woring reliably).  It's a lot of steps the first time you set it up and then it just works.

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Oooh. I'll have to try it out again then.
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Ended up trying the stock pads back on the 1540, once again, because I REALLY want to like them out of sheer comfort. Thing is, I wasn't wrong when saying it sounds... just... average. I don't know what it is about the alpha pads that totally transforms headphones, but man, as a result I am finding it that much harder to sell my 1540. No lie when I say the sound matches its price with a proper seal. Love the alcantara pads, but the lack of isolation really handicaps its potential.
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Hey Mad, you really need to sign up for the PM-2 loaner program.  I've got the PM-2 right now and it's really impressive.  It basically sounds like the LCD-2f but with slightly better bass and treble.  It's also lighter, more comfortable, better looking, sturdier, easier to drive and cheaper.  It sounds great right out of my X5 and only at 40% volume.

 

Basically it's better than the LCD-2f in every way, as far as I'm concerned.  It's still got that warm sound signature so I prefer the more lively HE-560, but for anyone who likes that warm LCD sound, the PM-2 is a must-listen.  That also goes for anyone considering the similarly priced EL-8 (@PacoTaco).  

 

I can totally see why Tyll replaced the LCD-2 on his Wall of Fame with the PM-1/PM-2.  

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/738309/oppo-pm-1-pm-2-loaner-program

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