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Originally Posted by Rebel975 View Post

I'm thinking of buying a Schiit Bifrost and setting it up like this:

 

Xbox (spdif) > spdif to coax converter > Bifrost > Astro Mixamp > Lyr > HE-500

PC (spdif) > Bifrost > Lyr > HE-500.

 

I'd only get a simulated 5.1 instead of 7.1, but it might be worth it. If not, I can always just use the Bifrost exclusively with the PC. Thoughts?


What is the Bifrost going to do in between your PC and the Mixamp?

post #2927 of 37400

Getting line out of a Dolby Headphone source is kinda tricky, it seems as though the best option would be a receiver that has that feature.  It's not easy to avoid double amping if you want dolby headphone out of a console using serious headphones.  

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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post


What is the Bifrost going to do in between your PC and the Mixamp?


There is no logical reason to add the Bifrost between them, unless he wasn't going to use the Dolby Headphone and needed the voice mixing of the Mixamp.
post #2929 of 37400
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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post


What is the Bifrost going to do in between your PC and the Mixamp?



 

 

Huh? The PC has it's own signal path. PC > bifrost > Lyr > HE-500.

 

I only use the Mixamp for gaming on my Xbox.

 

I was thinking that I could use the Bifrost as my Xbox's DAC  and still maintain voice chat functionality via the Mixamp.


Edited by Rebel975 - 1/1/12 at 7:03pm
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Thread Starter 
That makes much more sense. At first it sounded like you were going to chain the Bifrost and Mixamp. XD
post #2931 of 37400
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

That makes much more sense. At first it sounded like you were going to chain the Bifrost and Mixamp. XD


Well, originally I was thinking that I could. The Mixamp does have RCA inputs and would supposedly still give me some sort of surround sound feel. Though it sounds like since I'd be feeding it a stereo signal the surround sound wouldn't be all that great. I've never really tried gaming without Dolby Headphone on.

 

I'm just trying to get the maximum benefit out of my purchase by being able to use it multiple different ways. If I ended up not using the Bifrost with my Xbox I could still use it with my computer, so it wouldn't be the end of the world.


Edited by Rebel975 - 1/1/12 at 7:15pm
post #2932 of 37400
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Originally Posted by Rebel975 View Post
I'm thinking of buying a Schiit Bifrost and setting it up like this:

Xbox (spdif) > spdif to coax converter > Bifrost > Astro Mixamp > Lyr > HE-500

PC (spdif) > Bifrost > Lyr > HE-500.

I'd only get a simulated 5.1 instead of 7.1, but it might be worth it. If not, I can always just use the Bifrost exclusively with the PC. Thoughts?


I believe the output from the Bifrost is 2.0 channel, so the Mix-amp can no longer do 5.1 surround sound processing with this setup.

Unless I'm not understanding something in this setup.

 

 

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According to the Mixamp's manual it can still upmix to surround sound via the RCA inputs, but it's Dolby Pro Logic 2 instead of Dolby Digital 7.1.

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Thread Starter 
If you did that:

Dolby Digital downconverted to 2 channel by the Bifrost, upconverted to stereo surround. That's a LOT of processing. Also, Dolby Pro Logic II would possibly only function directly from the original source (I.e. RCA out from the 360). You're most likely not going to get PLII, but just a basic stereo signal upconverted. It wouldn't sound good at all.

Pro Logic II works from a Dolby Digital signal and/or Pro Logic II signal (Wii, PS2, etc), not any basic stereo source. The Dolby Digital signal would be lost once its gone through the Bifrost.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/1/12 at 7:49pm
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Dang. Well, I wonder how it would sound if I only used the Mixamp for chat functionality. I haven't ever done any Xbox gaming without Dolby Headphone. Not sure if I'd like it.
Edited by Rebel975 - 1/1/12 at 8:32pm
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Originally Posted by Rebel975 View Post
Dang. Well, I wonder how it would sound if I only used the Mixamp for chat functionality. I haven't ever done any Xbox gaming without Dolby Headphone. Not sure if I'd like it.


Why not just go

Xbox, optical to Mix-Amp, Mix-amp to Sennheiser HD-558 or HD-598, or Audio Technica ATH-AD900.

Use the HE-500s for music.

 

 

post #2937 of 37400

My setup

 

Computer-->Optical out-->Monoprice fancy toslink cable 6FT-->FiiO E17-->HFI 580/SRH440 

BF3 on hi-fi audio settings :)

post #2938 of 37400
Thread Starter 
E17 isn't out yet, and it doesn't support DH or any virtual surround. For gaming, I need my Dolby Headphone.
post #2939 of 37400
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post


Why not just go

Xbox, optical to Mix-Amp, Mix-amp to Sennheiser HD-558 or HD-598, or Audio Technica ATH-AD900.

Use the HE-500s for music.

 

 


 

Because then I'd never use the HE-500.

 

I just have the upgrade itch is all. If the Mixamp is the only DAC that will suit my Xbox gaming needs (chat+Dolby Headphone) then so be it. I'll just buy a Bifrost to improve my PC gaming experience. BTW- I play single player games on the PC, and multiplayer games on the Xbox.

 

Actually- I need a Smyth Realiser. Does anyone have several thousand dollars that they don't want?


Edited by Rebel975 - 1/1/12 at 9:52pm
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You have a Xonar Essence ST already, and want to throw a Bifrost into the mix? That's a bit of a surprise.

 

Unfortunately, there's a quirk I've heard about with Xonar cards; they allegedly won't let you output a stereo PCM signal through S/PDIF that's been pre-processed with Dolby Headphone. I don't know if this extends to other C-Media-based cards like the HT Omega lineup and the Auzentech X-Meridian, since they use somewhat different driver packages. Note that I cannot confirm or deny this myself without one of those cards.

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