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I reported you to moderators for "improper driving of headphones"   ^  tongue_smile.gif

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I reported you to moderators for "improper driving of headphones" ^ tongue_smile.gif


MLE should be banned for listening to dt990/600 without an amp. he doesn't sound like is apologizing for the awful offense he just did

hahha
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Bah, you guys don't know the magic and charm of underdriven cans. biggrin.gif

It has a distinct sound that no amp can provide. wink.gif
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Quick question about Dolby sound processing...

I tried a Astro mixamp and I'm really liking the sound with optical input from the xbox.  However, it doesn't seem to do so well when hooked up to the stereo output from my laptop. I was wondering if this was because of the crappy built in soundcard and because my laptop wasn't actually outputting 5.1 or 7.1 but just 2.0

Would the Dolby processing from a USB DAC like the Asus Xonar U1 give me better results than stereo input into the Mixamp?  I've been playing with one of the older Mixamps that doesn't support USB input.  I don't know if the newer Mixamps actually act as an external soundcard or if the sound is still from the internal card?

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Dolby Headphone should ONLY be used with 5.1 or 7.1 Dolby Digital audio. But if you can only output in Dolby Pro Logic IIz (gamecube/wii) then it can process that too. Using it to process 2-channel (2.0) will ruin the sound since that's not what the technology was made for. Just turn off the DH on the mixamp when  you're feeding it a stereo source (2.0).

 

If you plan on using a Asus U1 or U3 then those already have DH built in and you won't need to use the mixamp at all. If you have a soundcard that has Dolby Digital Live then that can be used together with the mixamp. Newer mixamps, 2010 model and newer, can act as a usb sound card and use DH the way it was meant to be used. Just don't play stereo music through them with DH on.


Edited by calpis - 12/23/11 at 4:12am
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My net cafe has banned open backed headphones, a trend which I started. Players used them at loud levels which is making audible noise to the administrators. I bought a Ksc75 and it still leaks, and I bought an RX700 which leaks very little and has good positional imaging. The problem is that I look like a SUPER DORK wearing these, even more so than the AD900. I'm considering the CAL but it's cable is short, I know this can be fixed with an extension, but I'd only consider it if the soundstage and imaging is >= the RX700.

I need a headphone with minimal leakage to use for gaming within a reasonable price. redface.gif Long cord preferred and no Y cable.
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Originally Posted by sari0n View Post

Quick question about Dolby sound processing...

I tried a Astro mixamp and I'm really liking the sound with optical input from the xbox.  However, it doesn't seem to do so well when hooked up to the stereo output from my laptop. I was wondering if this was because of the crappy built in soundcard and because my laptop wasn't actually outputting 5.1 or 7.1 but just 2.0

Would the Dolby processing from a USB DAC like the Asus Xonar U1 give me better results than stereo input into the Mixamp?  I've been playing with one of the older Mixamps that doesn't support USB input.  I don't know if the newer Mixamps actually act as an external soundcard or if the sound is still from the internal card?


I'm pretty sure even the mixamps with usb connectivity still need an optical/coax 5.1 signal.  You can't just plug them in with a USB cable and expect surround sound.  I think the usb cable is primarily for chat functions.  The mixamps always need a optical cable sending Dolby Digital 5.1 to work, even with PC.

 

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Originally Posted by calpis View Post
Newer mixamps, 2010 model and newer, can act as a usb sound card and use DH the way it was meant to be used.


I'd like some clarification on this. How many non-wireless Mixamp variants are floating around out there?

 

I know of at least two: the older "A40 Mixamp" version, and the newer "Mixamp Pro" version which should have improved USB functionality, from what I've read. Aside from the text at the bottom, the volume and game/chat mixing knobs also look slightly different.

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Got my AH-D7000's today. These things sounds wonderful, but isolate noise in/out about as well as the PC 360's! Completely useless to me due to that reason alone. I am going to return them and see if I have better luck with a set of T5P's once I catch a set at a decent price.

 

Just a heads up to anyone considering the D2000's - D7000's for gaming while near other people.

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Originally Posted by Evarin View Post

Got my AH-D7000's today. These things sounds wonderful, but isolate noise in/out about as well as the PC 360's! Completely useless to me due to that reason alone. I am going to return them and see if I have better luck with a set of T5P's once I catch a set at a decent price.

Just a heads up to anyone considering the D2000's - D7000's for gaming while near other people.

They leak a little, but I don't like the idea of using such a high end can for gaming, when a RX700 has just as good imaging and soundstage. I'm not taking about technical capabilities but the D7000 for dedicated gaming makes no sense
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Definitely wouldn't recommend spending that much for gaming headphones by themselves, no. Though the D2000's aren't all that expensive, especially if you get a good deal on them. I bought them for use with gaming AS WELL AS my primary listening headphones, but I need a pair that can isolate well for when I am at work, school, etc.

 

For gaming headphones that isolate, how about the DT770's? Those are closed headphones. I wouldn't mind trying the gaming headset based off of the design, the MMX 300, but they are also pricey, and I am happy with the PC 360's for home use.

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I've read good reviews, the only problem is that it has elevated bass.
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Hmm. How about the D2000's then? They might leak more than one would like for a "closed" headphone, but they still are very much closed. You should be able to get away with it and still get awesome sound.

 

Also, have you considered modding a pair of headphones like the PC 360? Most people go from closed to open, but I imagine it wouldn't be insane to try to go from open to closed.


Edited by Evarin - 12/23/11 at 1:50pm
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I think if you're not satisfied with the D7000 in terms of isolation / leakage, the D2000 may not be for you. They might leak the same as the 7000's. The DT770 Pro may be what you want though, are you very competitive?
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Me? No. I was attempting to come up with a suggestion for you. I am looking for the best headphones I can get my hands on for under 1k. They must be closed, and don't take a 700 dollar amp/dac to drive. I'm guessing that will likely be the T5P's.  I mean to game with my set, but nothing competitive. For any games I *DO* need a headset for, I have my trusty PC 360's here to get the job done.

 

 

Edit: Here's another thought for your situation. How about a good set of IEM headphones? You won't be bothering other people, the will isolate sound well both in and out, etc.


Edited by Evarin - 12/23/11 at 2:06pm
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