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IIRC, the SU-DH1 uses an earlier implementation of Dolby Headphone (v1). I remember reading it somewhere which was the reason I passed on the SU-DH1. The other reason I passed was because the Victor version was too expensive to import and that the ac adapter was like $40 but you can probably grab a universal at radioi shack for half the price.


I've heard that the Astro Mixamp just utilizes a simplified DSP chip that only has DH2 mode, but consumes less power. No DTS decoding, and probably no Pro Logic II decoding either...things I just might have a use for. On the flip side, it does have microphone mixing for voice chat...except that's not a feature I have much use for on my consoles, especially not the original Xbox I'll likely be using it with. (While I could try out Xlink Kai sooner or later, I just haven't bothered yet.)

 

Also, I won the Victor version for $86 shipped, apparently with the AC adapter. I think that's a fairly reasonable price to give this thing a chance, given that Mixamps regularly sell for more (though one did sell for just $80 complete here on Head-Fi before).


Edited by NamelessPFG - 12/15/11 at 11:32am
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Mixamp accepts Pro Logic II.

As for only having Dolby Headphone 2, it's generally known to be only only DH worth using. DH1 sounds too packed in, and DH3 sounds like everything is too far away. That is why all DH products after the SUD-H1 use DH2.
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Turns out the process of exchange of dt 770 pro 80 for dt 990 pro 250 isn't running as smooth as i had expected. I'm still willing to fight the battle if needed. I was actually thinking about getting and trying the dt 770 80 pro as scheduled and returning them if my tastes didn't match the bass amount of those headphones but i discovered that in that online shop the refund is only up to 70% if the product has been opened so i guess i'll have to trust your experience and follow your suggestions :)



:)

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post
Mixamp accepts Pro Logic II.
As for only having Dolby Headphone 2, it's generally known to be only only DH worth using. DH1 sounds too packed in, and DH3 sounds like everything is too far away. That is why all DH products after the SUD-H1 use DH2.


I wish Astro made the former point-well, the point about any and all supported formats-more obvious.

 

I have a similar impression with those DH modes, but in foobar2000 with the Dolby Headphone wrapper + Channel Mixer plugins. Just replace DH3's "too far away" with "way too much reverb". However, that's music and not games, where I can better test the positioning/imaging of everything. For that, I'd prefer something with a little more flexibility, just so I can verify that DH2 really is the most practical out of the three modes like everyone thinks it is.

 

The only concern is about DH2 still adding slight reverb. If you've ever played a PC game from the time when A3D and EAX were widely adopted, then you'd notice that it'll have plenty of reverb here and there, if the game developer thought it would be fitting for that room to be full of reverberation. Boosting that even further would probably not be ideal. (Heck, it even happens in newer games with software audio engines like Battlefield: Bad Company 2 when set to War Tapes.)

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IISol

I don't think the DT770 pro 80 will disappoint you.

edit: GAWDAMMIT, now the bottom of the pads are exerting too much pressure on my jawbone..., and while I was enjoying them for non-bassy genres, one trance track snuck into my current playlist, and just ruined it again for me. The DT990 Pros are definitely going back.

I'm seriously screwed. I probably won't even open the DT990/600, and just straight return it. Looks like nothing is going to be good. The D7000's pads get hot, the Beyers hurt my jaw... I'm left with nothing to satisfy me. Comfort is absolute priority, and I guess there's nothing other than clip ons that don't alienate my comfort in some way.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/15/11 at 1:23pm
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Sorry to bother you again MLE, I realize how much you and the others in this thread have helped me so far but, probably because of my total inexperience (and great interest) in this field I can't seem to decide what's the best option for me. Today, firmly convinced the dt 990 pro 250 were my ideal headphones, I cancelled the order for the dt 770 80 pro (they were actually about to be shipped but luckily i had chosen the payment on delivery option). On the very moment the order was officially cancelled hesitation struck me more powerfully than ever before. I just want a good pair of headphones to enjoy playing with my xbox 360 (mainly offline) and watching movies and feel completely immersed during those activities so, yes, the "fun" factor you mentioned in the first posts is the factor that matters the most to me. The music i listen to isn't very bass heavy: i listen mainly to Eric Clapton, Dire Straits, Creedence Clearwater Revival and similar artists and my main thought while canceling the dt 770 80 pro order was that i was afraid of the prominent bass drowning everything else. Which of those two headphones should I buy?? Again, I do appreciate your patience, I promise you'll be in my end-year appreciation thoughts. :)

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I'm seriously screwed. I probably won't even open the DT990/600, and just straight return it. Looks like nothing is going to be good. The D7000's pads get hot, the Beyers hurt my jaw... I'm left with nothing to satisfy me. Comfort is absolute priority, and I guess there's nothing other than clip ons that don't alienate my comfort in some way.


The DT990 pros are very different from DT990/660 comfort wise?

 

I never had a single problem with them hurting, nor any friends with very big heads. Maybe you should strech them a little to release clamp force?

 

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The DT990 preserves the details better than the DT770 Pro. Regardless of your reservations, the DT990 sounds distinctly of a higher quality than the DT770 Pros.

My recent comments are due to my ever changing preferences, but honestly, I don't think the DT990 Pro will steer you wrong, especially if the music you listen to isn't extremely bass dependent. Just wanna mention movies and games don't have continuous bass pounding like music does, so the bass is actually fantastic for those purposes.
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The DT990 pros are very different from DT990/660 comfort wise?

 

I never had a single problem with them hurting, nor any friends with very big heads. Maybe you should strech them a little to release clamp force?

 


No, this is the exact problem I had with the Premium DT990's comfort. It was putting pressure on my jawbone. The size of the pads are just at the point where it rests on my jaw bone. There's no fix for that.


I'm just super anal about comfort. I think taking all the headphones into account, the size of the Creative Aurvana Live pads are probably the most perfect, because they rest at a very comfortable spot. Too bad it's pleather.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/15/11 at 1:34pm
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Finally ordering the dt 990 pro then :)

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Seriously based off sound alone, if I just wanted some game and move cans, these would be it. EASILY. Absolutely without a shadow of a doubt my new favorite sound for music and movies, due to the soundstage, airyness, and yet awesome bass. The D7000 ticks everything for me, except airyness and openess.

I actually have to say the surround cues on the DT990 Pro are slightly better than the Premium DT990. They are that good when paired with Dolby Headphone.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/15/11 at 1:46pm
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Okay, so I don't know when or why it happened, but it seems that I'm no longer even a mild basshead. Like seriously, just out of NOWHERE. The DT990 is over the top, the KSC35 is a little more than I want in bass now, and as a test, I started listening to my PC360's for music, which I NEVER liked for that purpose. I'm actually enjoying the PC360 MORE than the other two.

This leads me to believe, that I am now in the stage where the DT880/600 and maybe the HE500 would be the most ideal headphones for me.

What I'm going to do, is listen to the Premiums tomorrow, and the next day for as long as I can. I will see if this is a fluke, and if NOT, I will see if the Premiums bother me as much as I believe they did the last time I owned them, comfort-wise.
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Okay, so I don't know when or why it happened, but it seems that I'm no longer even a mild basshead.


Well, you are evolving or just changing :P

 

That reflects how much one changes in this long trip for the best can that matches your changing tastes :)

 

I really liked K702+E9, then tried K702+Lyr and loved it, then listened to LCD-2+Lyr and my journey ended.

 

I didn't like DT990+Lyr that much (prefered DT990+E9), but well, that's another story.

 

All this trip started looking for gaming cans, and finished without any can for gaming haha (well, ed8 does a VERY good job, but still). Maybe next year I will get a PC360... or a better DAC :P

 

Enjoy your trip MLE... again :)

 


Edited by obazavil - 12/15/11 at 2:31pm
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After 270 pages and still going. You are a hard to please man. Incredible smily_headphones1.gif It's so nice that somebody does this, and provides the rest of us with input.

Does anybody know how to solve mic input with tre Earforce DSS? Would I have to stick with the Xbox lowering background sound when somebody speaks? Thx
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I didn't like DT990+Lyr that much (prefered DT990+Lyr), but well, that's another story

LOLWHUT?

edit: I C whut u did thar

Explain... though. The Lyr dulled the DT990 too much, right? Same issue I had with the D7000+Lyr.

Hell, not looking for another journey. Just something and call it a day. If the HE500 has just enough bass and treble (I'm still a fan of v-shaped curves, but a lot more subtle v-shape), this may be where I finish. If not, maybe the HE4 again, though it would cost more, as they'd need an amp immediately, whereas the HE500 would sound great off the E9 for now.

Kinda hoping the DT990 tomorrow redeems itself, that or the comfort is good enough so I exchange for a DT880/600. That would save me like $500.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/15/11 at 2:36pm
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