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wow, thanks for all the effort with the description! 

 

hmmzies, now in terms of strict performance for FPS, which sen sound whores the best?

 

I dont care which one has or doesnt have a mic, im talking strict performance :D

 

 

No problem.  I knew thats more description then you needed, but I like to post it anyways google can index it for other people searching on this stuff on the internetz wink.gif

 

The HD598s would be the best of the Senns. 

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No one else playing Skyrim through something other than a mix-amp at the moment?

 

I'm definitely still looking to pick up at pair of Beyers w/ an amp. Just need to figure out which would go with the closed cans the best, and save up the money. I want a pair of headphones for the library/work that I can use but not drive everyone nuts around me. That pretty much eliminates all open headphones IMO. I took the PC 360's to the library yesterday. I'm sure I looked quite the tool, but it was still nice to have good sound while studying for Microbio. :(

 

Glad to see MLE pop in as well as the other excellent additions to this guide. As far as i'm concerned this thread is 166 pages of win.


Edited by Evarin - 12/7/11 at 4:25am
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No problem.  I knew thats more description then you needed, but I like to post it anyways google can index it for other people searching on this stuff on the internetz wink.gif

 

The HD598s would be the best of the Senns. 



Better than the PC360s strictly for gaming?

 

I knew the HD598s were superior sound quality wise, but do you think they are superior for fps gaming?

 

What if i bumped up to the hd-600's? :0

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The PC360 and HD598 are on par with each other for gaming. The SQ improvement on the HD598 doesn't factor how well it does with gaming compared to the PC360. Honestly, if gaming is priority, the PC360 is a better value. Like I stated when I made this thread, even though the HD598 sounds better, I don't miss it while having the PC360. Another thing I need to mention again, and again, is that people need to stop saying that the PC360 is based off the 555/595, because those who HAVE heard the PC360 and 555/595 have stated that they sound different. The housing is different, and everyone should already know by now that the drivers are only one aspect that makes up a headphone's sound.

From old friends on AVS, I've been told the HD600 doesn't do that well for gaming compared to the cheaper 5xx series (at least in terms of virtual surround).
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/7/11 at 7:26pm
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 Another thing I need to mention again, and again, is that people need to stop saying that the PC360 is based off the 555/595, because those who HAVE heard the PC360 and 555/595 have stated that they sound different. The housing is different, and everyone should already know by now that the drivers are only one aspect that makes up a headphone's sound.


Saying the PC360s are based off the 555/595 is not the same as saying "they sound the same".  I thought that was implied.  Even minor changes to the enclosure (such as with HD555 & HD595) affect the sound, and obviously the enclosure is very different on the PC360 with a volume pot/ and a very large microphone resting behind both drivers.

 

 

 

 

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I'm curious about those new open Shures are with DH.  Too bad they look hella expensive frown.gif   Or maybe that's a good thing *puts wallet away*

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My god, if somewhere the Denon D2000 sells for $200-250-ish, I'd buy them today. I'm missing my D7000, and I have no doubt the D2000 would satisfy my urges. Sure, it's not the same, but it's in the same house sound, which is what I want. The KSC35 can only do so much, and the PC360 isn't what I have in mind for music.
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Saying the PC360s are based off the 555/595 is not the same as saying "they sound the same".  I thought that was implied.  Even minor changes to the enclosure (such as with HD555 & HD595) affect the sound, and obviously the enclosure is very different on the PC360 with a volume pot/ and a very large microphone resting behind both drivers.

 

 

 

 


The problem is that people shy away from the PC360 because they think it will sound like the 555. It doesn't, even post-mod.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/7/11 at 8:08pm
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My god, if somewhere the Denon D2000 sells for $200-250-ish, I'd buy them today. I'm missing my D7000, and I have no doubt the D2000 would satisfy my urges. Sure, it's not the same, but it's in the same house sound, which is what I want.


Is the D2000 discontinued?  It seems like its becoming rare/hard to get.

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I dunno. I've been out of the headphone game since selling the HE4 and D7000. I recently ordered a pair of CALs for my mother's boyfriend, and the headphone bug bit me. The HTX7 left a really bad taste in my mouth, and now I'm on the hunt for some full sized bassy cans to call it a day. Was close to getting another pair of CALs for myself, but I really wanna try something new.

Was close to getting the Pro 900 for $300 on Amazon, but I don't want severe mid bass. I'm more of a sub bass man, which is what Denon is known for.

I'm really regretting getting rid of the D7000. I wanna cry. I have absolutely no desire to find what's better than the D7000. They were absolutely perfect for me. ;_;
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/7/11 at 8:13pm
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Great post!

Would you add ATH-AD900 to the very first post? I would really love to hear your opinion on it in comparison to the plethora of reviews you have already made. Basically curious as to where it stands against PC 360 and ATH-AD700. Logically, AD900 should be better than AD700, but my interest lies in what you and the community have to say to it.

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I don't have any intention on getting another headphone with the wing design. I hated that about the AD700. My post wasn't supposed to be something elaborate like joker's portable review thread where he is constantly getting new headphones to review. I only gave my opinion on headphones I had already owned. I'm not planning on really getting any more headphones, other than one final pair of decent mid-fi headphones to settle with. Sorry.
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My god, if somewhere the Denon D2000 sells for $200-250-ish, I'd buy them today. I'm missing my D7000, and I have no doubt the D2000 would satisfy my urges. Sure, it's not the same, but it's in the same house sound, which is what I want. The KSC35 can only do so much, and the PC360 isn't what I have in mind for music.

 

Pretty sure J&R still sells them for $250 if you call them.

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So Christmas is coming up and I'm considering treating myself... but not too sure if it'll be worth it.

 

Going over this thread I've read that the PC360s are brilliant etc which has got me interested, I currently game on the xbox 360 with AD700s + Mixamp 5.8 and a clip on mic, I do love them but my main issues are the fit, they just don't feel secure on my head so not sure, going to try the rubber band thing later.

 

Anyway are the PC360s a step up from the AD700s? The only game I play competitively really is BF3 so wanting something that is good for offline gaming as well (Skyrim) and just wondering if they are a lot better or only just, and if it would be worth it to pick them up.

 

Also, is it just me or does MW3 sound dreadful? I swear the game is near enough unplayable with the AD700s for me as everything just sounds such low quality... not sure if I'm going mad. I also can't pinpoint/hear footsteps at all in that game either really, which is a shame.

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Also, is it just me or does MW3 sound dreadful? I swear the game is near enough unplayable with the AD700s for me as everything just sounds such low quality... not sure if I'm going mad. I also can't pinpoint/hear footsteps at all in that game either really, which is a shame.


I couldn't agree more!  It seems like they really went out of their way to nerf the sound in MW3.  I am having a really hard time pinpointing footsteps with my DT990s...which has never been a problem before.

 

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So Christmas is coming up and I'm considering treating myself... but not too sure if it'll be worth it.

 

Going over this thread I've read that the PC360s are brilliant etc which has got me interested, I currently game on the xbox 360 with AD700s + Mixamp 5.8 and a clip on mic, I do love them but my main issues are the fit, they just don't feel secure on my head so not sure, going to try the rubber band thing later.

 

Anyway are the PC360s a step up from the AD700s? The only game I play competitively really is BF3 so wanting something that is good for offline gaming as well (Skyrim) and just wondering if they are a lot better or only just, and if it would be worth it to pick them up.

 

Also, is it just me or does MW3 sound dreadful? I swear the game is near enough unplayable with the AD700s for me as everything just sounds such low quality... not sure if I'm going mad. I also can't pinpoint/hear footsteps at all in that game either really, which is a shame.


The PC360 is better balanced, and actually has bass. Not a bassy can by any means, but it's in line with everything else you hear. If you turn on the bass boost on the 5.8, it becomes quite a thumpy can too, though with severe bass passage, it will distort (I blame the 5.8, not the PC360, as they don't distort with my E7). To me, it's more of a sidegrade from the AD700s in terms of competitive gaming sound, but for everything else, they sound more naatural and enjoyable. They are definitely better in comfort for me. They are a lot more secure on my head. They may clamp a bit at first, so my suggestion is to overextend the arms a bit to where the headband is sitting on your head, not gripping. They will still remain in place well. In terms of positioning and whatnot, you really won't be missing much from the AD700.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/8/11 at 12:00pm
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