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post #24136 of 37958

Ok, I think that I'll avoid doing that at the beginning, and may be get an AMP and use my embeded sound chip  for the moment... what do you think is better ? and what amp except the schiit magni ? what about the way of conecting the headphones + amp + speakers (question asked earlier) ?


Edited by Lotfi - 6/16/14 at 4:58pm
post #24137 of 37958

Again, go to the Q701 thread and do a search.  There are a zillion amp recommendations, it's asked like once a week.

 

As far as hooking things up, there's no mystery there.  It's all standard cables that are readily available.

post #24138 of 37958
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Originally Posted by Lotfi View Post
 

Hi conquerator2: thanks for the advise. I'll check with them and I hope they could get me one, and not for too much money!

 

could I ask you about the diffrence between the Modi and the Magni ?

Is really the Schiit Magni the best possible solution?

how do I connect it to my computer to the 3.5 jack output port ?

I have the remote controller of my Gigaworks T3, could I just plug the headphones on it and use the knob for amplifying the sound ? if not, would it be better to plus the 2.1 speakers on the amp ? and then, the headphones on the remote controller?

 

I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but this is a lot of money for me.

 

Thanks

Modi is a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) and Magni is an amplifier

It's not the only solution but man, this amp is awesome

Using 3.5mm to rca cable, or if Your sandcard has rca output just rca cables

It would probably hurt the sq but go ahead.

post #24139 of 37958

thanks man, I'm waiting for a cost estimation of a vendor here in france... and depending on that, I'll see.

any other suggestions then ?

post #24140 of 37958

Again, How do people feel about the HE-500 for gaming? Also, how does the bass compare to the AKG Annies or k712 pros?

post #24141 of 37958
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post
 

I sent you a PM about doing the HE-500's for review if you're interested. I'll be getting them soon.

post #24142 of 37958
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Again, How do people feel about the HE-500 for gaming? Also, how does the bass compare to the AKG Annies or k712 pros?

I don't think MLE has an amp capable of driving the HE-500.

 

As for gaming, I was using the HE-6 and loved it. I imagine the HE-500 won't fare much worse... I can't compare it to an Annie or K712 but I now own the K612 and I can confidently say that the two areas where the AKG would win is soundstage depth and imaging. Still, I had zero problems gaming with the HEs and had no trouble identifying sound cues, directions, etc. On top of that, I really love planars and I suppose I prefer them to dynamics due to their effortlessness [hence my HE-560 preorder, which is a souped up HE-500 with a bit different tonality]

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I don't think MLE has an amp capable of driving the HE-500.

 

As for gaming, I was using the HE-6 and loved it. I imagine the HE-500 won't fare much worse... I can't compare it to an Annie or K712 but I now own the K612 and I can confidently say that the two areas where the AKG would win is soundstage depth and imaging. Still, I had zero problems gaming with the HEs and had no trouble identifying sound cues, directions, etc. On top of that, I really love planars and I suppose I prefer them to dynamics due to their effortlessness [hence my HE-560 preorder, which is a souped up HE-500 with a bit different tonality]


They aren't too bad, especially compared to the HE-6. About the only things I have is the Creative X-FI Titanium HD (when I get it) and my current Harmon Kardon AVR 254.

Sweet. Actually the HE-500 is an updated HE-6 afaik. I would figure that the AKG would best it there. Wonderful. What did you use for surround sound? Dolby HP or what? Woo, that's an expensive phone. Lighter as well! Hope you like them!

post #24144 of 37958

Hi all,

 

It's me again, I just got an answer from the vendor, and they are not selling the Schiit Magni, because they have better or equivalent for a better price, suggestiong the VMV Audio VA2 ( 115 Euros).

 

I'm hesitating of putting more money and getting Aune X1 Pro DAC / Amp (190 euros) but it is out of stock.

 

What do you think about the VMV Audio VA2 ? any other advise ?

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They aren't too bad, especially compared to the HE-6. About the only things I have is the Creative X-FI Titanium HD (when I get it) and my current Harmon Kardon AVR 254.

Sweet. Actually the HE-500 is an updated HE-6 afaik. I would figure that the AKG would best it there. Wonderful. What did you use for surround sound? Dolby HP or what? Woo, that's an expensive phone. Lighter as well! Hope you like them!

FYI, HE-500 is one step below a well-driven HE-6 [this is important because I never really felt like I truly achieved that status...]

The AVR should be better for the HE-500 than the Titanium but you'll need it for DSP so... maybe both :D

 

I use Dolby Headphone and although I have not tested other types of processing, I am a big DH fan and I really like the processing method they use. People find it a bit echoey, I do not - I find it scenery sensitive and pleasing [if perceived].

 

Yeah I am putting all my hopes into the 560... They better not let me down :D

post #24146 of 37958
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

FYI, HE-500 is one step below a well-driven HE-6 [this is important because I never really felt like I truly achieved that status...]

The AVR should be better for the HE-500 than the Titanium but you'll need it for DSP so... maybe both :D

 

I use Dolby Headphone and although I have not tested other types of processing, I am a big DH fan and I really like the processing method they use. People find it a bit echoey, I do not - I find it scenery sensitive and pleasing [if perceived].

 

Yeah I am putting all my hopes into the 560... They better not let me down :D



Right.
Nah, the Titanium has a DSP.

Right on.

post #24147 of 37958

I just found the Objective2 (O2) Headphone Amplifier in a Switzerland website at 132 euros for the Desktop version and 104 euros for the portable version. I think that it could be the best AMP for the given price I could get in France. What do you think ? I'm also wondering if the Desktop version is delivering a better sound quality ? if it is the same quality:  I prefer going with the Portable version, coz I don't see for what the desktop one could be better ?  or if there is a problem with the portable one ?

 

Please let me know if this AMP is OK ? and what should I get : Portable / Desktop ?

 

Many thanks.

post #24148 of 37958
^How much is the FiiO E12 selling for there? No experience with the O2s, but the E12 has plenty juice to sufficiently drive the more synergy hungry AKGs. No included DAC, just a powerful standalone portable.

Another member already suggested this to you, as he is using it with his K702. I loved its power and convenience when I paired it with all my AKGs.
post #24149 of 37958

Hi,

 

The FiiO E12 is 129 euros, so more expensive than the portable O2, and almost the same as the desktop version. this is extracted from Bill-P review ( a head-fi memeber) "Review: Fiio E12 (comparison to C&C BH + JDS Labs O2 + JDS Labs C421)":

 

Quote:
 

I had some extensive comparison to O2, so the post is no longer between E12 and C&C BH. But because I don't want to clog the forum with yet another post of the very same topic, I'll edit this thread.

 

So, headphones that I plugged this combo into, with notes of which amp was the preferred one:

 

Audio Technica A900X - O2 (E12 adds too much warmth, and it makes the A900X sound congested, but note: A900X has a less open sound than my ES10...)

Audio Technica ES10 - E12 (more midrange body and bass texture with E12)

Beyerdynamic DT880 (250 Ohm?) - O2 (I personally prefer E12, but majority vote won out)

Beyerdynamic T5P (with custom cable and ? mods) - E12 (better bass control, and better midrange)

Ultrasone Edition 8 - E12

Hifiman HE-500 - O2

Audeze LCD-2 - O2

Sennheiser HD800 - O2

Grado GS1000 - O2

V-Moda M100 - E12

 

It seems like a close battle, but... the two amps are not even close.

 

O2 has a more even, balanced frequency response that doesn't favor any particular region. It's clean from top to bottom. Also soundstage is slightly bigger (width).

E12 has a warmer tilt to the midrange, and a bit more bass articulation (without bass boost), with less micro details. Also soundstage is slightly smaller (width).

 

Also I mistakenly thought E12 had more output power than O2. O2 has more output power than E12 in reality.

 

Personally, I'd still rate E12 higher than O2 because E12 fits well with my personal favorite (ES10). But if I had any of the other headphones, I'd go with O2 instead.

 

So... hope that helps. My only advice to potential owners of either of those amps is to look at what you're listening through and decide really hard whether you need more clarity, or more body to your sound.

 

Some more notes: O2 and E12 were plugged into either an ODAC, my MacBook, or my iPhone 5.

 

and even the other reviews tend to say that the O2 is excellent on all the range, but very neutral. sharp and clear detail amplified without introducing any particular signature.

 

Still, what's better: the desktop/Portable version ?

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Hi,

The FiiO E12 is 129 euros, so more expensive than the portable O2, and almost the same as the desktop version. this is extracted from Bill-P review ( a head-fi memeber) "Review: Fiio E12 (comparison to C&C BH + JDS Labs O2 + JDS Labs C421)":


and even the other reviews tend to say that the O2 is excellent on all the range, but very neutral. sharp and clear detail amplified without introducing any particular signature.

Still, what's better: the desktop/Portable version ?
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

^How much is the FiiO E12 selling for there? No experience with the O2s, but the E12 has plenty juice to sufficiently drive the more synergy hungry AKGs. No included DAC, just a powerful standalone portable.

Another member already suggested this to you, as he is using it with his K702. I loved its power and convenience when I paired it with all my AKGs.

Sorry but can't help there...
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