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You will need an amp for the Q701 or K702, also...
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I know, I'm currently looking for one, and I was thinking about getting the Schiit Magni, but it is not sold in france, and i can't ship it from the US. As I said earlier, I am also wondering about a sound card with amp feature ?

 

But my question remains : K702 or Q701?


Edited by Lotfi - 6/16/14 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by Lotfi View Post
 

I know, I'm currently looking for one, and I was thinking about getting the Schiit Magni, but it is not sold in france, and i can't ship it from the US. As I said earlier, I am also wondering about a sound card with amp feature ?

 

But my question remains : K702 or Q701?

 

Both are one in the same. You would really have to compare them, side by side, to know the differences, which are very minor. Get the cheapest one....

 

I'm selling my K612 and am willing to ship internationally (at extra cost), if interested.


Edited by Change is Good - 6/16/14 at 1:56pm
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Right now I have the K702 on my head, listening to Roger Waters Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking:

 

ALAC > Ipod Classic EU version 120 Gb > LOD > Fiio E12 low gain bass boost on volume @ 12:00 > AKG K702

 

Loud enough for a quiet night (imagine high gain......), bass is very good and detailed. The effects that started with Dark Side of the Moon are absolutely there, this combo has simply a fantastic sound stage...... And did I mention the guitars.....perfect

 

I simply could not stand the colour scheme of the Q701....:ph34r:

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thanks a lot for those feedbacks! It is helping, but at the same time it is sooo hard to chose, the diffrence is just 20 euros k702 is 211 and q701 is 229 euros.

 

regarding my type of music, here is my last playlist mix, you could try diffrent songs, ( I took out the http at the begining and  replaced the / by *):

 

soundcloud.com*benx010256*sets*indie-please-june-2014-is

 

now, let's say i'm getting the k702, which AMP should I get ? i don't wanna put more than 100 euros in that.

 

millions of thanks for your advises

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Take the K702 and please do yourself a favour and take the Fiio E12 it is 138€ new or 116€ used on Amazon.de The K702 needs some power to begin with.

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Thanks a lot Mike,

 

Indeed, reading the stillhart posts helped me a lot, I'm more confident in the soundstage of the Q701. Looks like I will definitly need an AMP, that's also a big question for me, coz I don't know anything about that. Isn't better to get a soundcard like the Sound Blaster Audigy Rx ? it is a 7.1 with an amp feature up to 600 Ohms.

 

The other point is reagrding the bass mod, I found a topic but i'm not sure it is the right one "AKG Q701 Simple Mod Increase Bass and Decrease Soundstage a little" because I wouldn't like to decrease the soundstage. As far as I know, he is just reducing the "openning" of the headphones, which decreases the soundstage, and increases the bass boomy effect ... Is it correct ? or is there any other trick for not affecting the soundstage ?

If you want the absolute best in positional audio and sound-whoring, the Q701 beats the X1 for sure.  If you want really good positional audio and sound-whoring, but maybe not the BEST, but also more bass for movies and music, the X1 is a great choice.

 

I used both with my Sound Blaster Omni (same as the Z) and you really don't need a "better" sound card -- especially if you're buying an amp to go with it.

 

The bass on the X1 is definitely exaggerated but fun.  If you don't want it bleeding all over your mids, you'll need an amp.

 

The bass on the Q701 gets much better after you do the bass port mod.  I felt like it lost a teeny bit in the mids, but the amount of bass it gained was worth it.  It's still not a ton of bass, but it's enough to not make them feel like they have ****ty bass.  It's more "natural".  It's a no-brainer mod and they really should have come that way.  And of course it's completely reversible if you don't like it.  It had NO perceptible effect on soundstage or positioning.

 

tl;dr - 

 

Competitive gaming/sound whoring:  Q701>X1

Everything else:  Similar but different.  Don't stress out about it as you'll be super happy with either.

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I know, I'm currently looking for one, and I was thinking about getting the Schiit Magni, but it is not sold in france, and i can't ship it from the US. As I said earlier, I am also wondering about a sound card with amp feature ?

 

But my question remains : K702 or Q701?

http://www.audiophonics.fr/

 

They don't have the Magni but they do have the Modi and are a legit dealer [of many audiophile schiits]

Ask them if they could get you the Magni maybe? I've dealt with them before and they're very nice.

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@pietcux : 10 000 times thanks for your answers, but could you please suggest me some other amps in the same range of price (not more please) !!

 

@Stillhart : Thanks a lot for your reply, I have been reading almost all your post, and it helped me a lot for eliminating the X1 from my choice's list, so please !!! don't bring it again. I want something clear and great for gaming (I'm already having a Sennheiser HD-25 II for everyday's life) and after this conversation with piectux, I was 90% sure to get the K702 for saving 20 euros and using them for a better purpose. what do you think, is the K702 + amp as good as the Q701 ? MLE says that the Q701 has a better bass, but on some other threads, i red that they are the same.

 

For the movies and ambiant music, I'm having a nice 2.1 set of Creative GigaWorks T3.

 

with a soundcard like the soundblaster Z or whatever (Headphone Amp:  Up to 600 Ohms) do I really need an external amp ? suggest me diffrent models in order of preference if possible, I'll try to check what would be the best price I would get.

 

(I hope my english is not too bad)

 

 

Many thanks

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Hi conquerator2: thanks for the advise. I'll check with them and I hope they could get me one, and not for too much money!

 

could I ask you about the diffrence between the Modi and the Magni ?

Is really the Schiit Magni the best possible solution?

how do I connect it to my computer to the 3.5 jack output port ?

I have the remote controller of my Gigaworks T3, could I just plug the headphones on it and use the knob for amplifying the sound ? if not, would it be better to plus the 2.1 speakers on the amp ? and then, the headphones on the remote controller?

 

I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but this is a lot of money for me.

 

Thanks

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@pietcux : 10 000 times thanks for your answers, but could you please suggest me some other amps in the same range of price (not more please) !!

 

@Stillhart : Thanks a lot for your reply, I have been reading almost all your post, and it helped me a lot for eliminating the X1 from my choice's list, so please !!! don't bring it again. I want something clear and great for gaming (I'm already having a Sennheiser HD-25 II for everyday's life) and after this conversation with piectux, I was 90% sure to get the K702 for saving 20 euros and using them for a better purpose. what do you think, is the K702 + amp as good as the Q701 ? MLE says that the Q701 has a better bass, but on some other threads, i red that they are the same.

 

For the movies and ambiant music, I'm having a nice 2.1 set of Creative GigaWorks T3.

 

with a soundcard like the soundblaster Z or whatever (Headphone Amp:  Up to 600 Ohms) do I really need an external amp ? suggest me diffrent models in order of preference if possible, I'll try to check what would be the best price I would get.

 

(I hope my english is not too bad)

 

 

Many thanks

I haven't heard the K702 so I can't comment from experience, sorry.  But I have read many times that the Q701 is slightly better overall than the K702 (non anniversary).

 

If you just want to use them for gaming and that's it, the Sound Blaster Z will be fine.  For anything else, I'd suggest an amp.  You're better off asking for amp recommendations in the Q701 or K702 threads.

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OK, noted!

 

MLE says that the bit extra of bass on the Q701 over the K701/702 covers slightly the mids, which reduces the details of the Q compared to the K. I never tried them, so I can't tell myself...

 

I'll start then by getting a sound card with amplifying feature, and I'll think about getting an AMP in the future.

 

could you please send me the link for the bass mod thread ?

 

regards

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Dig around in here.  http://www.head-fi.org/t/582276/q701-appreciation-thread

 

The link you're looking for is in the first post.

 

FWIW, I can't possibly imagine the "bass" in the stock Q701 reducing the detail as it's almost inaudible.  You're making way too much of the differences between the two.

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will this kill the waranty ?

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will this kill the waranty ?

No idea, but it is reversible...

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