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I found the K612 a bit sibilant on certain tubes and when hooked up to certain dacs. I have managed to get the piercing aspect of the sibilance eliminated though. My biggest complaint about the K612 is how picky and sensitive the headphone is and that the treble can be a bit piercing on some systems.

Pretty much though it is exceptional with instrumental music...

I guess the effortlessness in the treble is just hard to reproduce for dynamic headphones

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Pretty much though it is exceptional with instrumental music...

I guess the effortlessness in the treble is just hard to reproduce for dynamic headphones


Yes it is, the treble is quite effortless with the right synergy though. I have a dynamic headphone that is quite effortless in treble and it's a bright sucker. My MB Quart QP 220 is the brightest headphone I have yet I find it non-fatiguing and basically grain-free and it's not piercing at all to me. It is a little too bright though as it doesn't sound quite right on some songs. I do find treble reproduction problematic on most dynamics though.


Edited by kman1211 - 3/30/14 at 10:11am
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Yes it is, the treble is quite effortless with the right synergy though. I have a dynamic headphone that is quite effortless in treble and it's a bright sucker. My MB Quart QP 220 is the brightest headphone I have yet I find it non-fatiguing and basically grain-free and it's not piercing at all to me. It is a little too bright though as it doesn't sound quite right on some songs. I do find treble reproduction problematic on most dynamics though.

Yes it is perhaps Mstage [which runs as hot as the Audio GD gears :D class-A I guess...] isn't the right match, though it also largely depend on the mastering of a particular song... They are very revealing headphones indeed [for better or for worse].

Funnily enough with games it's  not an issue and the sibilance is much less obvious.


Edited by conquerator2 - 3/30/14 at 10:17am
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Yes it is perhaps Mstage [which runs as hot as the Audio GD gears :D class-A I guess...] isn't the right match, though it also largely depend on the mastering of a particular song... They are very revealing headphones indeed [for better or for worse].

Funnily enough with games it's  not an issue and the sibilance is much less obvious.

Maybe, they do react more noticeably to slight changes in the audio chain than my other headphones. Some songs are problematic, mine still get sibilant and bright on hotly or badly recorded recordings, but luckily aren't fatiguing anymore. I've come across some very sibilant recordings in some games.


Edited by kman1211 - 3/30/14 at 10:26am
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Maybe, they do react more noticeably to slight changes in the audio chain than my other headphones. Some songs are problematic, mine still get sibilant and bright on hotly or badly recorded recordings, but luckily aren't fatiguing anymore. I've come across some very sibilant recordings in some games.

It's only the sibilance that bothers me with most vocals...

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edit: nvm


Edited by HiCZoK - 3/30/14 at 3:26pm
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It's only the sibilance that bothers me with most vocals...


So the sibilance is problematic on most vocals?

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So the sibilance is problematic on most vocals?

Yes.

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Yes.

It shouldn't be like that with most vocals, only some vocals. It sounds like either the system isn't smooth enough in the treble and midrange for the headphone and/or you are extra sensitive to the headphones presentation of sibilance.


Edited by kman1211 - 3/30/14 at 10:46am
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It shouldn't be like that with most vocals, only some vocals. It sounds like either the system isn't smooth enough in the treble and midrange for the headphone and/or you are extra sensitive to the headphones presentation of sibilance.

Well, we are talking all bright recordings, where the sibilance would already be pronounced as is.

The Mstage likes to put the vocals upfront + if the recording is bright it really can get a bit annoying.

But I was exaggerating, it's not nearly as bad as I made it sound.

It's just that the K612 is probably the most revealing headphone I've had and maybe it's not best pals with my setup, I dunno.

I still love it as it does a lot of good and the sibilance is down to the mastering. Period :D


Edited by conquerator2 - 3/30/14 at 11:00am
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Well, we are talking all bright recordings, where the sibilance would already be pronounced as is.

The Mstage likes to put the vocals upfront + if the recording is bright it really can get a bit annoying.

But I was exaggerating, it's not nearly as bad as I made it sound.

It's just that the K612 is probably the most revealing headphone I've had and maybe it's not best pals with my setup, I dunno.

I still love it as it does a lot of good and the sibilance is down to the mastering. Period :D


That is true. Bad or hot recordings do sound rather unpleasant on revealing headphones. My amp puts vocals upfront as well. With revealing headphones tweaking the audio chain to your preferences can be a pain. So it's just a revealing headphone revealing flaws.

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Hey, it's me again.

Well, I've tested the advice given with the station and decreasing the volume on it.
I've put it into practice and decreased the volume on the DSS station from 100 to around 80...

Why didn't I try that earlier?! I was mindlessly following the "keep the source maxed out" advice, without taking the source's amplification prowess into account... Kill me!
But I am at least happy I've found the culprit and fixed the single thing I hated and attributed to headphones... No wonder it only happened with the DSS and not with my PC's USB out! There's no amp in there -_-

I knew it, sleepy Ev is a genius! Glad you found an answer, cuz it seemed off.
By the same token of not assuming things, please stop calling your base station a DSS. The only similarity is they both use Dolby Headphone mode 2 processing (oh, and maybe a brand name), if you keep calling your other base station product that you're gonna confuse and misinform other people. They probably have a whole different DAC, Amp, power supply, features, etc, so it's NOT a DSS.

But yeah, glad you found a (free & instant) solution!
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I knew it, sleepy Ev is a genius! Glad you found an answer, cuz it seemed off.
By the same token of not assuming things, please stop calling your base station a DSS. The only similarity is they both use Dolby Headphone mode 2 processing (oh, and maybe a brand name), if you keep calling your other base station product that you're gonna confuse and misinform other people. They probably have a whole different DAC, Amp, power supply, features, etc, so it's NOT a DSS.

But yeah, glad you found a (free & instant) solution!

Ok, but they probably [I assumed...] use similar parts... Last time I checked, this very station was around 100 USD [http://www.turtlebeach.com/product-detail/transmitters-parts/rf-transmitter-type-a/74]

But you're right, it is a transmitter station. I'll make sure to differentiate between the two.


Edited by conquerator2 - 3/30/14 at 12:00pm
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If anyone else is interested in trying the K240/K702/Q701 to Boom Pro adapter I made, let me know. I'll order more parts and make up a few for people to test. With further tweaking, I should be able to make it only 1" long. 

 

I'll probably set up a demo program with the ones I'll make. Then if anyone is interested in keeping one, they just pay the cost of the parts. So probably $4 each.

 

I'll keep everyone informed of course.

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If anyone else is interested in trying the K240/K702/Q701 to Boom Pro adapter I made, let me know. I'll order more parts and make up a few for people to test. With further tweaking, I should be able to make it only 1" long. 

 

I'll probably set up a demo program with the ones I'll make. Then if anyone is interested in keeping one, they just pay the cost of the parts. So probably $4 each.

 

I'll keep everyone informed of course.

Add me mrmartinvegas on ps4..i will get bf4 on Tuesday and show you how it's done..i will be starting with the crappy guns again with iron sights..i hate iron sights! p.s you tubes a bit crap on ps4..ended up just watching it on pc instead!


Edited by martin vegas - 3/30/14 at 12:13pm
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