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post #22096 of 37328

Well my X1's FINALLY came in!  Here are my first impressions; a comparison between the Philips Fidelio X1 and the AKG Q701 from a neophyte.  Keep in mind that I've been using the Q701 exclusively for a month now.

 

The first thing I tried was some music, since I have been really focused on that with my Q701's lately.  I know it's probably just that I'm super used to the Q701 now, but the bass seems so... loose and floppy. For certain music, it's wonderful. For other music, it gets in the way of the mids. Also the highs just don't have that sparkle that they do on the Q.

 

I do agree though that they're great for gaming. Holy cow! Not quite as spacious as the Q, not quite as detailed, but very good directionality and, because of all that bass, I really feel more immersed. It *is* a lot more fun.  I know what MLE meant now.  It's not that same sense of "god mode" that the Q's give, but it's more than good enough.  It certainly beats the pants off the PLYR1.

 

Also, since the X1 is easier to drive, I don't feel like I need an amp on the Recon. The Q just doesn't quite get loud enough and I think would really benefit from them.  I was getting close to pulling the trigger on one.  Now, I'm thinking maybe not.

 

Man is it hard to decide between these two!  I think I may end up keeping both.  I'd use the X1 for gaming since it's just easier with the Boom-pro and the lack of amping.  Also, since I'm not exactly a competitive player, I don't need the full god-mode treatment.  I'll give up a little detail for a lot of fun, no problem!  I'd use the Q701 for music and maybe get a DAC/Amp combo that suits them - brings out the bass a little more and tones down the sparkle JUST a tad.

 

Do they make a happy medium?  Is there something out there that will give me more bass than the Q701 but with that same level of control?  Will it still have those clear mids and sparkling highs without being too overboard on the sparkle?  I suspect this is the reason people spend the big bucks on headphones.  What have I gotten myself into?!?  lol


Edited by Stillhart - 3/24/14 at 8:11pm
post #22097 of 37328
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Well my X1's FINALLY came in!  Here are my first impressions; a comparison between the Philips Fidelio X1 and the AKG Q701 from a neophyte.  Keep in mind that I've been using the Q701 exclusively for a month now.

 

The first thing I tried was some music, since I have been really focused on that with my Q701's lately.  I know it's probably just that I'm super used to the Q701 now, but the bass seems so... loose and floppy. For cetain music, it's wonderful. For other music, it gets in the way of the mids. Also the highs just don't have that sparkle that they do on the Q.

 

I do agree though that they're great for gaming. Holy cow! Not quite as spacious as the Q, not quite as detailed, but very good directionality and, because of all that bass, I really feel more immersed. It *is* a lot more fun.  I know what MLE ment now.  It's not that same sense of "god mode" that the Q's give, but it's more than good enough.  It certainly beats the pants off the PLYR1.

 

Also, since the X1 is easier to drive, I don't feel like I need an amp on the Recon. The Q just doesn't quite get loud enough and I think would really benefit from them.  I was getting close to pulling the trigger on one.  Now, I'm thinking maybe not.

 

Man is it hard to decide between these two!  I think I may end up keeping both.  I'd use the X1 for gaming since it's just easier with the Boom-pro and the lack of amping.  Also, since I'm not exactly a competitive player, I don't need the full god-mode treatment.  I'll give up a little detail for a lot of fun, no problem!  I'd use the Q701 for music and maybe get a DAC/Amp combo that suits them - brings out the bass a little more and tones down the sparkle JUST a tad.

 

Do they make a happy medium?  Is there something out there that will give me more bass than the Q701 but with that same level of control?  Will it still have those clear mids and sparkling highs without being too overboard on the sparkle?  I suspect this is the reason people spend the big bucks on headphones.  What have I gotten myself into?!?  lol

 

Some K712/Annie pads will help on that matter for the Q701...

post #22098 of 37328
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Some K712/Annie pads will help on that matter for the Q701...

 

Are they really $30 each?  That's a pricey investment... but some googling says they do exactly what I was looking for.  I'll have to sleep on that one...

post #22099 of 37328

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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

Are they really $30 each?  That's a pricey investment... but some googling says they do exactly what I was looking for.  I'll have to sleep on that one...

 

I think so. It's been a while since I bought em when I had the Q701... so not really sure...

 

Read up on Mad's Q701 review and you will see that it turns your Q701 into an Annie...

 

This review also confirms it...

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/655082/akg-q701-vs-akg-k702-65th-anniversary-comparison-review


Edited by Change is Good - 3/24/14 at 8:33pm
post #22100 of 37328

Hey, looking for beginner headphones primarily for gaming, however I will also listen to some music with it (Mostly Alt. Rock, Classic Rock, French House, and HIp Hop).I was looking at the Sennheiser HD 419 or 429. Would either of these be good for gaming? Remember music is only a secondary priority.

post #22101 of 37328
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I think so. It's been a while since I bought em when I had the Q701... so not really sure...

 

Read up on Mad's Q701 review and you will see that it turns your Q701 into an Annie...

 

This review also confirms it...

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/655082/akg-q701-vs-akg-k702-65th-anniversary-comparison-review

 

Thanks, that was a fantastic read.  It does sound like these will shift the Q slightly in the direction I want.  I am really tempted.

 

Do you know, by chance, how the Annie's sound with the "bass mod" where you take off the sticker thingy?  (Linky)

 

It's funny... now that I have like two of these cans to compare, I can really start to get a better idea of what all these reviews and stuff are talking about.   Going back and rereading the X1 and Q701 reviews, I totally GET them now.

post #22102 of 37328
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

Thanks, that was a fantastic read.  It does sound like these will shift the Q slightly in the direction I want.  I am really tempted.

 

Do you know, by chance, how the Annie's sound with the "bass mod" where you take off the sticker thingy?  (Linky)

 

It's funny... now that I have like two of these cans to compare, I can really start to get a better idea of what all these reviews and stuff are talking about.   Going back and rereading the X1 and Q701 reviews, I totally GET them now.

 

Nah, never tried it... sorry...

post #22103 of 37328
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I think the location at which the chat and game audio mixing is happening is different for the two systems. With the 360 they at least give you the option of changing chat volume at the os level. I believe the latest xbone update allows you to do this when using kinect chat but doesn't help those trying to mod the original adapter.

I think the xbone controller receives 2 discrete audio streams - game and chat - and the mixing function happens with the adapter. Without the latest adapter it outputs both game and chat audio pre-mixed (when using the system supplied adapter) in the same output audio stream. With legacy headsets they would receive just the chat stream from the controllers and the mixing would happen at the headset or mixamp level depending on whether you've got tb or astro.

So how to trick the system supplied adapter to strip out game audio while still passing through the chat feed? May not be possible as the circuitry probably isn't setup to suppress the game feed frown.gif I'm slowly resigning myself to buying the new adapter.

Edit: words

 

Okay so FYI, I tried my Xbone with the X1 and the Boom-pro tonight and as soon as I got into a party, I realized I couldn't hear my chat.  The mic worked, but sound didn't.  When I unplugged from my chat adapter, chat worked but mic didn't.

 

The only difference from before is that this time I had the Boom-pro plugged into my X1.  Before, I had it zip tied to my Q701 cable but not plugged in to any headphones.

 

Theory:  It auto-detects if you have headphones plugged into the chat adaptor and always puts chat through the controller if detected.  There is no option to override, as far as I can tell.  This puts a MAJOR damper on my plans to keep the X1.

 

EDIT - It also makes the Boom-pro a distinct disadavantage with the Xbone if you plan on using surround.  WTF, MS?


Edited by Stillhart - 3/24/14 at 10:16pm
post #22104 of 37328

Hey everyone, I haven't been on here in awhile, but I have been trying to catch up with this fast moving thread! 

I am still trying to get my hands on the ATH-AG1 to compare with my MMX-300's, but can't seem to find a seller that ships to the US. :(

 

According the the Audio Technica twitter they should be shipping to the US in "early spring". We will see how that pans out.

 

Hope all is well with everyone!

post #22105 of 37328
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Hey everyone, I haven't been on here in awhile, but I have been trying to catch up with this fast moving thread! 
I am still trying to get my hands on the ATH-AG1 to compare with my MMX-300's, but can't seem to find a seller that ships to the US. frown.gif

According the the Audio Technica twitter they should be shipping to the US in "early spring". We will see how that pans out.

Hope all is well with everyone!
Welcome back, good to see you again. Did you see, Nameless also got a pair of MMX-300? He likes 'em too.
post #22106 of 37328
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post

Thanks, that was a fantastic read.  It does sound like these will shift the Q slightly in the direction I want.  I am really tempted.

Do you know, by chance, how the Annie's sound with the "bass mod" where you take off the sticker thingy?  (Linky)

It's funny... now that I have like two of these cans to compare, I can really start to get a better idea of what all these reviews and stuff are talking about.   Going back and rereading the X1 and Q701 reviews, I totally GET them now.

So, not exactly, but pads PLUS bass "mod" is kinda like 2 steps in the same direction. Maybe you SHOULD try it with the Q701's, especially since you want more bass & it seems to be pretty easily reversible. I've never gotten around to it.
post #22107 of 37328

So has anyone tried the ATH-ADG1 yet...

post #22108 of 37328

This is an awesome thread. I haven't gone through all 1,400+ pages yet, but I'm working on it. Has anyone happened to cover the Plantronics Rig?

 


Picked them up earlier today. So far they seem pretty solid for ~70 CAD, especially with the included amp. Bassy, but not overwhelming. Decent treble, somewhat recessed mids. Warm sounding. Really light and comfy. Definitely happy with them atm.


Edited by B9Scrambler - 3/25/14 at 9:27am
post #22109 of 37328
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Holy cow, I remember opening those old Gamepro mags at the supermarket and reading through in one sitting. That review scale brings back so many memories. Even back then, their 3.5 was good to me. I think the .5s had thumbs up added to the boxes. Hahaha. So a 1.5 was kinda weird.

Back then, it was all about Gamepro, and EGM. Then I subscribed to the Dreamcast magazine. I was such a Sega fanboy.

That Official Dreamcast Mag covering Dead or Alive was HOTTT... Saw it and immediately had to hide it from my mother, lol
post #22110 of 37328

Sennheiser hd 558 , hd 598 , pc 360 or the ATH D700 for the new Counter Strike GO, seems the razer and steelseries are crap, i would like to buy one of this products, but some people said me he pc 360 are better than the 558 and some just said the 555=pc360! the 598 are great but just a bit expensive for my taste :)

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