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Originally Posted by VORZ View Post
 

What would be a good pair of closed back headphones to use with the stereo adapter for the xbox one? Ideally I don't want to have an amp dangling from my controller. My budget is $400. Currently have the HD 280 Pros. 

 

Do you want big bass? or a more neutral sound signature?

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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

Finally, an IEM with a stellar soundstage (for an IEM)... the Sony XBA-H3. The SM64 was nice, but nowhere near as wide as these...

 

 

I will be testing them on BF4, later tonight. Not sure how they will perform, as far as competitive gaming goes, because these have some big bass similar to that of the SRH1540.

Ooo! Very interested, especially how it compares to the XBA-3. How is it with the A2?


Edited by roguegeek - 3/6/14 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

 

Do you want big bass? or a more neutral sound signature?

 

Neutral... mostly play BF4, so don't want to be distracted by explosions. 

post #21484 of 37463
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Ooo! Very interested, especially how it compares to the XBA-3. How is it with the A2?

 

Never heard the original XBA-3, but can say these are SHINING with the A2! These are efficient enough for use with just a phone, but really do benefit from some nice amping...

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Originally Posted by VORZ View Post
 

 

Neutral... mostly play BF4, so don't want to be distracted by explosions. 

 

Well, I would have to say that finding the right closed headphone at under $400 will be quite a task. The Mad Dogs are a nice choice... but it'd be best, IMO, to up your budget (if you can) and go for the Alpha Dogs, instead.

 

Unfortunately, there aren't many options to choose from when looking for a neutral closed headphone with a good enough soundstage for BF4.


Edited by Change is Good - 3/6/14 at 2:03pm
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Never heard the original XBA-3, but can say these are SHINING with the A2! These are efficient enough for use with just a phone, but really do benefit from some nice amping...

Been on the lookout for a nice pair of neutral IEMs with a decent soundstage. I'll keep a look out for your impressions. The only thing I don't like is how bulky they are, but I do like the over-ear mount. I just wished Sony IEMs were a little more flushed with the ear like Shures are.

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Been on the lookout for a nice pair of neutral IEMs with a decent soundstage. I'll keep a look out for your impressions. The only thing I don't like is how bulky they are, but I do like the over-ear mount. I just wished Sony IEMs were a little more flushed with the ear like Shures are.

 

Hmmm... I don't think these would be to your liking, then, because the bass makes them quite far from nuetral. I would put it's bass around the ballpark of the SRH1540 and X1, actually. 

 

For your taste... I'd suggest the SM64, instead, or even the Westone 4. Those are more aimed towards neutrality with a slight touch of warmth. It really depends on how much bass your ears prefer...

 

If you could choose one of your headphones to have a mimic IEM... which would it be?


Edited by Change is Good - 3/6/14 at 2:00pm
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Unfortunately, there aren't any options to choose from when looking for a neutral closed headphone with a good enough soundstage for BF4.

 

I might be able to bump it up to $500 but the problem is that it has be available from amazon. Also, I'm fine with just having stereo sound wirelessly from the controller without amplification. So basically looking for something similar to the HD 280s, just lower impedance. 

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I might be able to bump it up to $500 but the problem is that it has be available from amazon. Also, I'm fine with just having stereo sound wirelessly from the controller without amplification. So basically looking for something similar to the HD 280s, just lower impedance. 

Like I mentioned, there arent many options to choose from when looking for a decent closed headphone for gaming. The Alpha Dog, FWIR, is the clear winner for what you are looking for. It costs $600, however, and will need proper amping.

So.. SRH940? Some people say it's bright... but most of what I read is that they fall right in line of a neutral closed headphone with an above average soundstage. Never heard them, however... so maybe rogue can give you some input on it.
Edited by Change is Good - 3/6/14 at 2:26pm
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Like I mentioned, there arent many options to choose from when looking for a decent closed headphone for gaming. The Alpha Dog, FWIR, is the clear winner for what you are looking for. It costs $600, however, and will need proper amping.

So.. SRH940? Some people say it's bright... but most of what I read is that they fall right in line of a neutral closed headphone with an above average soundstage. Never heard them, however... so maybe rogue can give you some input on it.

 

Got ya covered.

 

Quick disclaimer: My perception is a lot of people prefer warmer cans in this thread where I prefer neutral or, sometimes, slightly colored highs (bright). Just something to keep in mind when reading any impressions I throw out there.


Edited by roguegeek - 3/6/14 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post

I think it's the realisation that the X1 plus the utility of the V-Moda mic makes it the perfect all round gaming headset (open at the very least). Modmic looks good, but the extra wire needed makes it look, by comparison, clunky on any headphone.

 

Oh, right-the X1 has a detachable cable of the sort that you can substitute with the V-MODA BoomPro mic, so there's no need for a ModMic. That explains a lot of it.

 

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It's not you. I haven't heard them, so I can't judge them, but with the MA900 being discontinued and the price going up, there's no reason for someone not to mention the X1s as an alternative. The X1 doesn't need an amp either and pairs well with the Boom Pro. It makes it an easy recommendation. 

 

My concern isn't that people mention the X1 as an alternative; there's good reason for it to be recommended so highly, I'm sure.

 

It's that people are starting to act like there are NO alternatives to the X1 and that it's the best at everything, even though it's clear by now that people have different tastes in sound signatures. That's why I feel it's getting a little out of hand.

 

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I think the $150 flash sale followed by the $70 price drop played a big part in that.

 

They were already one of the best all-around choices for gaming (and music), and the ability to add a mic and the aforementioned price drop have caused an increase in the recommendations for them here.

 

Oh, right, that $150 sale again...wonder if we'll be seeing another one of those for a while.

 

But until that happens, I personally have little incentive to buy one for review, then resell it at an all-too-likely loss. Not with the MMX 300, MA900, and that "beater" Lambda lying around.

 

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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post

X1's basshead?? A basshead headphone will practically smother the **** out of the mids and highs - the X1 is nowhere close.... I love the thing.

 

Smothered mids is my number-one concern with any headphone, given the way most of 'em are tuned these days.

 

For some points of reference, MLE's HE-400 with the velour pads sounded very recessed despite supposedly having a flat response from lower mids to bass, about the most recession I can stand, and my MMX 300 (DT770 Premium 32-ohm) still sounds a little recessed despite a SineGen sweep showing no drastic changes in the midrange.

 

MLE's even flat-out told me that the X1 probably isn't my cup of tea in terms of signature to begin with. Only a first-hand audition can prove that, but it just makes me think about how my tastes probably aren't lining up with everyone else's here.

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Bad day at the office Nameless? :smile:

 

1. Yes.... having one cable is far far better than two cables hanging off your skull.

 

2. The X1 does bass when it has to, otherwise it's pretty neutral. PC users can EQ out any bass (easier to EQ out something than to add it). So maybe it's not ultra perfect for console sound whoring, but most users would, I bet you a ****onne, love the sound of it over a bassless headphone: it's still a superb all rounder.

 

3. Grab yourself a pair.

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Nameless, have you thought about giving the K612 a try?
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Originally Posted by Smuckerz View Post
 

Just made my first headphone purchase! This guide was very helpful. I got the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250. Can't wait until I get them from Amazon. After thinking long and hard these headphones look just right for me and I can't wait to hear what I've been missing. I hope they are worth every penny. 

let us know what you think. I was going to buy that EXACT pair and Head-fi convinced me not to get them and to get the Fidelio X1s instead. 

I got them today, but have yet to open them. 

I plan on getting the DT-770 pro 250 'cause I just have to have a pair of Beyer cans one day. They are just too damn sexy. 

 

Edit: yeah. I read all the stuff about the X1s being over hyped. I choose them for a lot different reasons. I am going back to Japan in a few days and they are 100$ more there. So buy them now or never. I also have not opened them yet. So I can sell them for a profit if I decide not to keep them. I started a thread/poll and bascily everyone said cans like the q701 would not or HD-598 would not pair as well with the astro mix amp. I really wanted the DT990s but people were talking about the treble spike they are prone too. As it is I have trouble with frequency spikes with BF4 with my m100s, so I would like to try and avoid that. AND the X1s are just about one of the sexiest cans in this price range. The 701 come close. Sorry but I think the Senhiesers are ugly as ****. Some of the worst looking cans I have ever seen. DTs I love. That is why I still plan on buying the 770s for work. 


Edited by gr34td3str0y3r - 3/7/14 at 12:31am
post #21494 of 37463
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Just like I stated many times before, when you're using the Mixamp or other DH device, you need tk use it EXCLUSIVELY for a few days to a week. THEN go back to stereo.

If you're just using it for a few hours, and basing your impressions off that, well, no wonder you're gonna hate on it. Your brain needs time.

As I stated on the first post, I hated DH at first too.

This is for Imperatore.

Oh yes, I've owned Tomb Raider on 3 systems. IT IS A BAD GAME TO TEST DH AUDIO.

this is the same for high frame rate video (like the Hobbit movies)

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Originally Posted by Imperatore View Post
 

Thanks Mad Lust I am using it constantly now.  One thing I did notice...  There was an electrical wire crackling behind me somewhere, now I decided to flick to stereo and it sounded like it was very close to my ear, when I turned on DS I noticed that I could almost tell the distance this noise was coming from.

To the person who said something must be wrong with me..  A lof of the stuff you read is subjective, you cannot say someone is wrong because their ears do not interpret something the same as you.

i am not sure if you are talking about me.... if you are I didnt mean anything was wrong with YOU, but rather something in the string of sound. Meaning it could the game, your cans, or yes it COULD be you, that you are not used to the DD sound, which is EXACTLY what Mad Lust said (you may just not be used to the DD sound). Mad Lust said basically the exact same thing I was trying to say, but he explained it much better and of course he carries more weight around here.  then again you may be talking about someone else. 

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