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I think Head-fiers are just conspiring to make uninformed consumers spend more money. This "hiss" from the DSS is obviously manufactured to make ordinary people spend double the price on a "better" piece of technology.

 

Totally kidding by the way.etysmile.gif

 

 

Does anyone know if it's actually true that you can plug the PS3 Chat cable from the Mixamp 5.8 in to your computer to receieve audio on your PC? The wired Mixamp looks really nice because I can connect a 3.5mm/3.5mm or USB/USB to my computer and receieve stereo sound, but I don't know if you get that feature on the wireless Mixamp. My computer has no optical port.

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

As for the d2000s, they are great for gaming, but movies are where I feel they truly shine with dh.

 

How is their soundstage? compare to AD700/900? considering they are closed...

 

and also is the bass too overpowering for competetive multiplayer?

 

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams View Post

I'm curious what people use for battlefield: bad company 2.

 

on the STX I have it set to 6 channels, GX enabled, Dolby headphone on set to DH-1 (reference)

 

In-game i use the Hi-Fi setting

 

However I'm not convinced this is the best way to do it and its kind of hard to test the positional audio in the game with each minor setting because nothing is ever the same from one play to another.

 

In fact, if you guys know of a great way to test different settings with a relatively similar scenario in game, I'd love to be able to try out and find the best setting.


I would be really interested in this as well.
 

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Originally Posted by Tacoboy View Post

As a Superlux HD-668B owner, I would say the HD-668B is about 75% as good as those headphones that cost 3 to 4 times more.

I the semi-open nature of the HD-668B is the perfect blend between fully open and closed headphones.

Coming with a 3' & 10' cable is nice (wish they added a 6').

 

Fair enough, they are good value for money, can't argue with that.

 

Have you compared them personally yourself to those 3-4 times more expensive headphones? trying to separate hype from unbiased opinion...
 

 

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I would agree with anyone that says the HD-668B is as good as headphones 3-4 times their price. Assuming you only paid $30, but it's not likely. This is also if you like their signature. I'm not a fan of it's signature at all and find it stock a bit too V-shaped, but not too badly. Calling it balanced seems kind of hard for me to believe. It's more of a fun headphone like the DT-770 or DT-990.

 

Without a little work I think it's pretty worthless as a gaming headphone. It's mids are too distant sounding even with a good amp. You can majorly improve the mids though. I'll post more about that in HD-668B thread maybe. Now it's quite good for gaming.

 

The detail on these is quite ridiculous for such a low price. Same goes for the sound clarity. The treble is a bit of a problem. Reminds me of the treble on the AD700, but not quite as bad.

 

EDIT: If you want the absolute best gaming headphone money can buy for $50 (or even $100 maybe) get the 668B, add a cheap $5 Belden or Mogami cable and remove it's internal black "filter" behind the grill and then remove the foam in front of the driver. For added comfort the K240 Studio's headband works well.


Edited by tdockweiler - 8/19/11 at 10:58am
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You only get stereo sound and the sound is coming through the voice channel of the wireless mixamp but it works -- and quite well actually. 
 

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Originally Posted by Chaay 

 

Does anyone know if it's actually true that you can plug the PS3 Chat cable from the Mixamp 5.8 in to your computer to receieve audio on your PC? The wired Mixamp looks really nice because I can connect a 3.5mm/3.5mm or USB/USB to my computer and receieve stereo sound, but I don't know if you get that feature on the wireless Mixamp. My computer has no optical port.



 

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams View Post

I'm curious what people use for battlefield: bad company 2.

 

on the STX I have it set to 6 channels, GX enabled, Dolby headphone on set to DH-1 (reference)

 

In-game i use the Hi-Fi setting

 

However I'm not convinced this is the best way to do it and its kind of hard to test the positional audio in the game with each minor setting because nothing is ever the same from one play to another.

 

In fact, if you guys know of a great way to test different settings with a relatively similar scenario in game, I'd love to be able to try out and find the best setting.


I've done a bit of research on this myself and found that most people think that the Home Cinema setting is the most accurate-I tend to agree! I've tried Hi-Fi, Headphones, War Tapes (FUN but INACCURATE) and a couple of others but settled on Home Cinema as my final solution. It just simply seems to give the best/most accurate positioning, and is the most blanced accross the board and doesn't exaggerate certain things like the other modes. For example (IIRC) the Headphone setting raises the volume of footsteps, but is innacurate and kind of distorted especially in buildings. War Tapes exaggerates every **** explosion and tank, nearly doubles the volume (why?!)  and sounds extremely distorted at times. It's a blast for SP though and will make you FEEL like a real war is at hand lol-especially with something like the Pro 900 or D2000. My .02

 

-Daniel
 

 

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Originally Posted by AncientWsidom View Post

Fair enough, they are good value for money, can't argue with that.

 

Have you compared them personally yourself to those 3-4 times more expensive headphones? trying to separate hype from unbiased opinion...
 

 


My best headphones are the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro 250-Ohm, really nicely balanced sound, they have better sound quality then the HD-668Bs

Also have the DT-770 Pro 80-Ohm, lots of really great bass, puts a nice thump into music, but the bass is a little overpowering when watching movies or T.V.

I have to adjust the volume level more offen then I like, I have to turn the volume down for special effects and loud movie music, then back up to hear the voices better.

My Audio Technica ATH-AD700 are great for easy long term listening, but all the stuff where bass is important, now makes you feel left out (or lacking something)

Advantages of the HD-668B are more bass then the AD700s, but being semi-open block more outside noise then the AD700.

The HD-668Bs bass does not overpower like the DT-770 80-Ohms

The DT-770 250-Ohm is better in every sound category over the HD-668, but I can plug the HD-668 (only 56-Ohm) directly into my Xonar DX sound card.

My Xonar DX can not effectively power my DT-770 250-Ohms and using my tube amplifier for the 250-Ohm means I can not use Dolby headphone.

The HD-668B card is the only real choice for using Dolby headphone on my computer.

The HD-668B does not make anything I listen to feel overpowered or feel lacking.

I'm planning on replacing my Xonar DX with the Xonar Essence STX in the future.

 

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Originally Posted by Jae304 View Post

You only get stereo sound and the sound is coming through the voice channel of the wireless mixamp but it works -- and quite well actually. 
 



 


Thank you. I mainly use the PC audio for Youtube and Hulu, so surround sound isn't a priority, though I very occasionally game or stream HBO. I looked into it though and it seems that the Mixamp can work as an external sound card, so it seems connecting USB/USB or RCA/3.5mm of the wired Mixamp would give me better quality.

 

The reason I like the wireless mixamp is that it has the bass enhancer. I've read that it acts like a subwoofer and is actually decent. It's not a significant advantage, but nice to have.

 

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Thank you. I mainly use the PC audio for Youtube and Hulu, so surround sound isn't a priority, though I very occasionally game or stream HBO. I looked into it though and it seems that the Mixamp can work as an external sound card, so it seems connecting USB/USB or RCA/3.5mm of the wired Mixamp would give me better quality.

 

The reason I like the wireless mixamp is that it has the bass enhancer. I've read that it acts like a subwoofer and is actually decent. It's not a significant advantage, but nice to have.

 

 

The bass enhancer on the wireless mixamp is really quite nice however I don't think it has any effect on the voice channel so it may not yield any advantage over the wired unit for you.  TBH, I don't think I tried using the bass enhancer when I tried this out yesterday as I have my pc sound eq'd to my liking already but based on my experience with it while gaming, I'm pretty sure it has no effect on that channel.  I'll try and remember to test it out sometime over the weekend and report back.

 

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Thanks for that. Thats two recommendations for Home Cinema.

 

Do you play on console or PC? If on PC, what setting do you use on your soundcard (and is Dolby Headphone enabled?)
 

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post



 


I've done a bit of research on this myself and found that most people think that the Home Cinema setting is the most accurate-I tend to agree! I've tried Hi-Fi, Headphones, War Tapes (FUN but INACCURATE) and a couple of others but settled on Home Cinema as my final solution. It just simply seems to give the best/most accurate positioning, and is the most blanced accross the board and doesn't exaggerate certain things like the other modes. For example (IIRC) the Headphone setting raises the volume of footsteps, but is innacurate and kind of distorted especially in buildings. War Tapes exaggerates every **** explosion and tank, nearly doubles the volume (why?!)  and sounds extremely distorted at times. It's a blast for SP though and will make you FEEL like a real war is at hand lol-especially with something like the Pro 900 or D2000. My .02

 

-Daniel
 

 



 

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Well, after careful consideration, I ordered akg q701's today. Hopefully this will be it for headphones for awhile because the wife is taking notice. I play alot of blk ops(freeforall)/mw2 on my days off and I am into audio gear. The 701's also require a burn in period? I'll check them out for games/music/movies and give a small review.

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Originally Posted by Tacoboy View Post

My best headphones are the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro 250-Ohm, really nicely balanced sound, they have better sound quality then the HD-668Bs

Also have the DT-770 Pro 80-Ohm, lots of really great bass, puts a nice thump into music, but the bass is a little overpowering when watching movies or T.V.

I have to adjust the volume level more offen then I like, I have to turn the volume down for special effects and loud movie music, then back up to hear the voices better.

My Audio Technica ATH-AD700 are great for easy long term listening, but all the stuff where bass is important, now makes you feel left out (or lacking something)

Advantages of the HD-668B are more bass then the AD700s, but being semi-open block more outside noise then the AD700.

The HD-668Bs bass does not overpower like the DT-770 80-Ohms

The DT-770 250-Ohm is better in every sound category over the HD-668, but I can plug the HD-668 (only 56-Ohm) directly into my Xonar DX sound card.

My Xonar DX can not effectively power my DT-770 250-Ohms and using my tube amplifier for the 250-Ohm means I can not use Dolby headphone.

The HD-668B card is the only real choice for using Dolby headphone on my computer.

The HD-668B does not make anything I listen to feel overpowered or feel lacking.

I'm planning on replacing my Xonar DX with the Xonar Essence STX in the future.

 

 

I understand the reasoning behind why you have the headphones that you do, but I think the comparison isn't exactly... right. Between your ones the 668Bs are the best all around ones (for dolby headphones), even if lacking SQ, but what happens when they face phones like the AD900 (little bass) or HD598 (more bass) or D2000 (allot of bass)?

If I was in the market for $100 hp, I'll probably pick them up without thinking twice... however I'm looking at spending up to $300, so what's the best money can get for that? (I'm not expecting you to know the answer, almost 2100 posts show it is a tricky question!)

 

Do you know - will the STX be able to power your DT770 250 by itself?
 

Also bump for the following question:

 

Quote:
As for the d2000s, they are great for gaming, but movies are where I feel they truly shine with dh.

 

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How is their soundstage? compare to AD700/900? considering they are closed...

 

and also is the bass too overpowering for competetive multiplayer?

 

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I've never heard the AD900s so I can't comment on those but the D2k can't really compete with the open backed AD700s in terms of sound stage.  They are impressive for a closed back headphone -- possibly one of, if not the best in that respect and price point but the 700s definitely have an advantage being open backed.  I've never had a problem playing online with them and don't feel the bass to be an issue but I guess that is just my opinion.  Besides, if you're playing on a PC, you could always EQ some bass out if you really feel it is intrusive.  

 

I personally didn't like the AD700s much at all.  Their sound stage is nice but their lack of bass was something I found too boring.   

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Originally Posted by AncientWsidom View Post

 

I understand the reasoning behind why you have the headphones that you do, but I think the comparison isn't exactly... right. Between your ones the 668Bs are the best all around ones (for dolby headphones), even if lacking SQ, but what happens when they face phones like the AD900 (little bass) or HD598 (more bass) or D2000 (allot of bass)?

If I was in the market for $100 hp, I'll probably pick them up without thinking twice... however I'm looking at spending up to $300, so what's the best money can get for that? (I'm not expecting you to know the answer, almost 2100 posts show it is a tricky question!)

 

Do you know - will the STX be able to power your DT770 250 by itself?
 

It's not that the HD-668B is "best all around at Dolby Headphone", all my headphones would be good with Dolby Headphone.

The DT-770 Pro 250-Ohm would be the best sound for anything, it's just the Xonar DX can't power it.

The AD700 would be great for quiet movies (lots of talk) while using Dolby headphone 5.1, the openness of the AD700 means less ear fatigue.

The DT-770 Pro 80-Ohms would be great Dolby Headphone 5.1 for action stuff were there is no talking.

The one good advantage the HD-668B has over the DT-770s is the HD-668Bs are semi-open, heat builds up slower.

 

Per the Asus Xonar Essence STX manual

Headphone Impedance    "optimised for 32 to 600-Ohm"

 

There is a thread on this site were all they talk about is the Essence STX

http://www.head-fi.org/t/421890/the-xonar-essence-stx-q-a-tweaking-impressions-thread

 

 

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Sorry I'm not a PC gamer. other than for Doom and Half Life lol. Xbox360 here.

 

-Daniel
 

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams View Post

Thanks for that. Thats two recommendations for Home Cinema.

 

Do you play on console or PC? If on PC, what setting do you use on your soundcard (and is Dolby Headphone enabled?)
 



 



 

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Originally Posted by mafiamike View Post

Well, after careful consideration, I ordered akg q701's today. Hopefully this will be it for headphones for awhile because the wife is taking notice. I play alot of blk ops(freeforall)/mw2 on my days off and I am into audio gear. The 701's also require a burn in period? I'll check them out for games/music/movies and give a small review.


I'm not sure about the Q line, but my K702's improved drastically with burn-in (300 hrs-ish) and proper amplification. They do get "loud enough" though out of the Mixamp...until you add in chat. Hope you have a quality amp in the meantime.

 

-Daniel
 

 

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