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post #20206 of 37296

How about the DG and DGX? any difference?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132020

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132052R

24/96 sample rate got no effect compared to 24/192 if I'm using my dac right? My aune x1 can out 24/192 via optic and coax.

5.1 and 7.1, any significant difference? or just minor? I'm using fidelio X1.

Also, I know its off topic i'm sorry, but is it worth to get a gtx770 4gb over the 2gb one? The difference is 40usd and i usually do 1080p gaming. Gigabyte, MSI or asus?

post #20207 of 37296
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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post
 

How about the DG and DGX? any difference?

 

Also, I know its off topic i'm sorry, but is it worth to get a gtx770 4gb over the 2gb one? The difference is 40usd and i usually do 1080p gaming. Gigabyte, MSI or asus?

 

The DG is PCI and the DGX is PCI-E. 

 

I went with a 2GB GTX 770.  FWIR, spending extra for the 4GB on a 770 is a waste of money, especially if you only do 1080p gaming.  The 770 isn't really fast enough to utilize it properly. 

 

The version (Gigabyte, MSI, Asus, PNY, etc) doesn't matter too much as long as your getting the aftermarket cooling versions (Twin FRZR, Windforce, Direct CU, etc.).  So I'd shop for whichever is cheapest.


Edited by chicolom - 1/19/14 at 7:28pm
post #20208 of 37296
So, better to go dg or dgx? 5.1 good enough compared to 7.1? Since i'm only using cans for surround gaming.
No worth getting 4gb one then, i think i get the asus one then. Thanks chico.
post #20209 of 37296
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 The DG is PCI and the DGX is PCI-E

Your next motherboard probably won't have a PCI slot.

post #20210 of 37296
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

Your next motherboard probably won't have a PCI slot.

 

Actually, I don't even think his current motherboard has one.  AFAIK only the Z87-A and Z87-Plus have "legacy" PCI slots.  Anything above that, including the Z87-Pro, are all PCI-E only.

post #20211 of 37296

Thanks Chico, so its safer to buy the xonar DGX then.

Any recommendation from creative?


Edited by widdyjudas - 1/19/14 at 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

The DG is PCI and the DGX is PCI-E. 

 

I went with a 2GB GTX 770.  FWIR, spending extra for the 4GB on a 770 is a waste of money, especially if you only do 1080p gaming.  The 770 isn't really fast enough to utilize it properly. 

 

The version (Gigabyte, MSI, Asus, PNY, etc) doesn't matter too much as long as your getting the aftermarket cooling versions (Twin FRZR, Windforce, Direct CU, etc.).  So I'd shop for whichever is cheapest.

Good card. I'm at my 18 month point to cycle through a new card and it's been between the 770 or wait another couple of weeks for an R9 290 with a good non-reference cooler. Since the majority of my PC gaming is BF4, right now, I'm waiting for the 290 and Mantle.

post #20213 of 37296
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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post
 

Thanks Chico, so its safer to buy the xonar DGX then.

Any recommendation from creative?

 

Creative's Sound Blaster Z (OEM) would be their current equivalent to the Xonar DGX.

post #20214 of 37296

So recently I have been considering getting into headphone gaming. However the headphones I will be using will be the Alpha Dogs (which I dont have yet as my mad dogs are being upgraded atm). As described in MLE's reviews the Alpha Dogs are quite revealing so I was wondering if something like this would be too noisy: Optical (PS4 or surround Processor)->Turtle Beach DSS-> Schiit Magni-> Alpha Dogs. I pretty much just want to dabble into headphone gaming at the moment so I really do not want to spend too much. The set up I game on speaker wise is pretty good, but I live with my parents until I am finished with school which inherently has its problems. I want to know if the chain will be good enough for the headphones I am using, and do the DH dacs limit the quality of the sound too much for gaming. I basically do not want something that makes my headphones sound like a bose sound bar. I kinda get what the headphone technology is doing, but I have never heard it applied to anything good. I have only heard the DH through the cheapo turtle beaches which sounded horrible imo and often had way too much bass. 

 

Otherwise I listen to my Music through headphones on my DX100 as it has a better dac section than anything min my household and is easy to move from room to room. I watch movies on a different set up in our house.


Edited by gamefreak054 - 1/20/14 at 6:52am
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Thanks, I stick with asus DGX then. Unless they have an offer for the DX :tongue_smile:

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Originally Posted by gamefreak054 View Post
 

So recently I have been considering getting into headphone gaming. However the headphones I will be using will be the Alpha Dogs (which I dont have yet as my mad dogs are being upgraded atm). As described in MLE's reviews the Alpha Dogs are quite revealing so I was wondering if something like this would be too noisy: Optical (PS4 or surround Processor)->Turtle Beach DSS-> Schiit Magni-> Alpha Dogs. I pretty much just want to dabble into headphone gaming at the moment so I really do not want to spend too much. The set up I game on speaker wise is pretty good, but I live with my parents until I am finished with school which inherently has its problems. I want to know if the chain will be good enough for the headphones I am using, and do the DH dacs limit the quality of the sound too much for gaming. I basically do not want something that makes my headphones sound like a bose sound bar. I kinda get what the headphone technology is doing, but I have never heard it applied to anything good. I have only heard the DH through the cheapo turtle beaches which sounded horrible imo and often had way too much bass. 

 

Otherwise I listen to my Music through headphones on my DX100 as it has a better dac section than anything min my household and is easy to move from room to room. I watch movies on a different set up in our house.

The DSS is fine for gaming if that's what you're asking.

It might not be the best DAC out there [though right now for console gamers like myself it kinda is...] but it is good enough to get its job done and appreciate different headphones and their strengths/weaknesses.

Planarmagnetics are not sensitive to noise at all and even most dynamics don't really have a problem with it, only the most sensitive ones, certainly not the Alpha Dogs.

I've tested quite a few different headphones with the DSS [well the TB PX5 DSS] and the DH is very good, though it varies from HP to HP, but no muddiness or anything.

I'd recommend open headphones for gaming but the Alpha Dog is pretty great so, you should be good.

Open headphones certainly help with the naturalness and all, but if you don't have a pair on hand to compare, you wouldn't know :]

The DSS is definitely sufficient and you can tell good and bad headphones apart easily.


Edited by conquerator2 - 1/20/14 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

The DSS is fine for gaming if that's what you're asking.

It might not be the best DAC out there [though right now for console gamers like myself it kinda is...] but it is good enough to get its job done and appreciate different headphones and their strengths/weaknesses.

Planarmagnetics are not sensitive to noise at all and even most dynamics don't really have a problem with it, only the most sensitive ones, certainly not the Alpha Dogs.

I've tested quite a few different headphones with the DSS [well the TB PX5 DSS] and the DH is very good, though it varies from HP to HP, but no muddiness or anything.

I'd recommend open headphones for gaming but the Alpha Dog is pretty great so, you should be good.

Open headphones certainly help with the naturalness and all, but if you don't have a pair on hand to compare, you wouldn't know :]

The DSS is definitely sufficient and you can tell good and bad headphones apart easily.

Thank you. This is pretty much the answer I was looking for. For some reason I was typing a really long explanation of what I wanted, however I wanted to make sure it was obvious what I was looking for.

 

 I am pretty much sticking to the Alpha Dogs as they are really the only headphone I can afford at the moment and have the sound signature that I love for music. Also it almost has to be closed back as the room I play in has 2 channels connected to a system in another room to play music in that general area (in which my mom does all the time and I hate pop music).

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Originally Posted by gamefreak054 View Post

Thank you. This is pretty much the answer I was looking for. For some reason I was typing a really long explanation of what I wanted, however I wanted to make sure it was obvious what I was looking for.

 I am pretty much sticking to the Alpha Dogs as they are really the only headphone I can afford at the moment and have the sound signature that I love for music. Also it almost has to be closed back as the room I play in has 2 channels connected to a system in another room to play music in that general area (in which my mom does all the time and I hate pop music).

Ok, I think the Alpha Dog is a very good choice then.
post #20219 of 37296

Just wanted to thank you for this great guide which helped me choose Philips Fidelio X1 and I absolutely love them.

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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

Good card. I'm at my 18 month point to cycle through a new card and it's been between the 770 or wait another couple of weeks for an R9 290 with a good non-reference cooler. Since the majority of my PC gaming is BF4, right now, I'm waiting for the 290 and Mantle.

 

Oh man am I eyeing that R290, and I don't even have a desktop built currently. I'm really interested in seeing the how the AMD TrueAudio is going to be worked into games. This has the potential to be somewhat of a game changer in the PC gaming sector. Hell, it may even flood over into console gaming since it's in the PS4.

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