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http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Console/dp/B00CMQTVUA/

 

Xbox One in stock at Amazon.

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http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Console/dp/B00CMQTVUA/

 

Xbox One in stock at Amazon.


You are mentioning a console that you can't plug headphones into in the headphone gaming guide. Why do you torture us in this way? ;_;

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You are mentioning a console that you can't plug headphones into in the headphone gaming guide. Why do you torture us in this way? ;_;

 

There's a mod to get them to work. So you totally could get it and use those new fancy cans you're gonna buy to replace the broken ones. ;)

 

I went to college. I still afforded the toys I wanted somehow.

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Hi again.
Would just like to say thanks mad lust for the amazing reviews I finally made my decision, gone for the Sony MNA as some kind soul pointed out the 130 quid Amazon seller which seems legit smily_headphones1.gif. Maybe when I fancy a change in years to come I'll look at getting the x1 or its successors (if their devision still running). Does look like an amazing headphone but struggled to agree on setting another 100 quid down lol.

Again appreciate the reviews as it makes it so much easier for newbs like me that appreciate audio quality but don't know where to really start smily_headphones1.gif.

Will let you know my findings when they arrive! If their sound doesn't suit Mr though I will certainly grab the x1 next haha
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Hi again.
Would just like to say thanks mad lust for the amazing reviews I finally made my decision, gone for the Sony MNA as some kind soul pointed out the 130 quid Amazon seller which seems legit smily_headphones1.gif. Maybe when I fancy a change in years to come I'll look at getting the x1 or its successors (if their devision still running). Does look like an amazing headphone but struggled to agree on setting another 100 quid down lol.

Again appreciate the reviews as it makes it so much easier for newbs like me that appreciate audio quality but don't know where to really start smily_headphones1.gif.

Will let you know my findings when they arrive! If their sound doesn't suit Mr though I will certainly grab the x1 next haha

MA900 is an amazing, awesome and excellent headphone I am sure you'll love it ^_^
It sure caught me off guard!
I should have the X1 arriving in a week or so... So I'll give my impression there too x)
Edited by conquerator2 - 12/3/13 at 3:43pm
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What's the general rule of thumb/price ratio if you were to buy a complete system: say if you had $500 would you get $300 HP's and the rest on your DAC/AMP? That would seem to be about right, but I've never really pinned it down whilst I've been on these forums.

 

No ratio was given. I think it varies depending on the components in question.

 

For dynamic/ortho amps, you're probably going to spend less on them than the headphones themselves, which is the sensible thing to do. The headphones themselves are what determine most of the sound signature you get, and the amp itself should ideally be a "wire with gain", only amplifying the signal and not inherently changing its signature, letting the headphone drivers sound as intended.

 

For electrostatics...this is where it gets weird, because if you're willing to buy a speaker amp (vintage integrated receivers work nicely for this purpose) for use with the cheap transformer boxes, that will get you started, albeit ruling out non-Normal bias (230V) sets with most of those transformer boxes. Given how cheap old receivers tend to be, relatively speaking, you might spend less than the headphones themselves.

 

But if you're going for a dedicated amp, a typical SRM-1/Mk2 Pro or SRM-T1 is going to be MORE expensive than a typical vintage SR-Lambda/Lambda Pro on the used market (we're talking about $350-650 for amp vs. $200-350 for headphones), and it's not unheard of for people to drive the SR-007 with the Blue Hawaii SE, an amp that was over TWICE as expensive during its production run ($1,600-2,500 for SR-007 + $5,000+ for BHSE).

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Anyone able to speak to the positional audio queues in Assassin's Creed 4? I picked it up today with Amazon's special and I'll be playing it at some point over the next couple days. Wondering how it does considering it's third person and all that.

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So I think I'm going to go with the Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones. The only thing I need to figure out now is how to hook them up. I have a Ear Force DSS (1) and a USB sound "box" that can accept optical. The problem is I can't get it to light the DD light on the Ear Force unless I go into the settings -> supported formats -> select Dolby digital and hit test. Then the light goes on.

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Thats because Dolby Digital is what you're supposed to be using. And the 558 will suit you well. Certainly would be my choice if I couldn't afford the MA900.
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Thats because Dolby Digital is what you're supposed to be using. And the 558 will suit you well. Certainly would be my choice if I couldn't afford the MA900.

 

The question is will the light go on when I plug the 558s in. The light never lit with my Turtle Beach PX21's which I would have though would do it. The Turtle Beach website states

 

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If you're trying to play surround sound from your PC to your headset and you're only getting Pro Logic II (not Dolby Digital) make sure that you are not trying to get Dolby Digital transmission from PC games. Most PC games use "multichannel LPCM" encoding for their soundtracks (Linear Pulse Code Modulation), not Dolby Digital encode/decode. Older (pre-2009) PC games do not include Dolby Digital Live processing to convert their LPCM audio to Dolby Digital inside the game, so only PCM (stereo) audio data will be sent through the PC sound card's S/PDIF Out (optical digital output).

 

http://www.turtlebeach.com/support/entry/830516976/

 

So how whats the deal?

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baku, what are you plugging your DSS to? If the DSS is getting a Dolby Digital signal, there is no way it isn't doing proper Dolby headphone (the light should be on).

If you're gaming on PC... your PC has to have an optical out that is capable of sending a olby Digital signal. For example, my Alienware laptop has an optical out, but it ONLY does 2 channel pcm, no Dolby. In order for me to get Dolby from my PC, I have to use my Xonar U3 external soundcard. It does Dolby Headphone OR it can send out an untouched Dolby Digital signal if you really wanna use the DSS.
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I am getting myself a dragonfly dac and akg550's for Christmas..K550's supposed to sound a bit like the Q701 what I have read..should be good match with the dragonfly!
It's amazing, you replied to my post, and yet it seems like "Q701" was the only part you read. Meh. I did hear that the Dragonfly was superb, and I have heard that the K550 don't sound much like the Q701, different soundstage and less natural tone. I like having one closed headphone and one great open headphone, less overlap, though to be honest I always reach for the open headphone if I can.
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

Anyone able to speak to the positional audio queues in Assassin's Creed 4? I picked it up today with Amazon's special and I'll be playing it at some point over the next couple days. Wondering how it does considering it's third person and all that.
I recently went back to play the first Assassin's Creed. Its really easy to pick up with headphones when you're near a particular type of engagement such as rescue a civilian (Altaiir may have eagle vision, but I have bat ears), and positional audio may give you more immersive environment and a better sense of which side of a building to drop down from, but overall it's not a huge deal to have surround.

Also, I've just received a comment (from russia?) on my FiiO E12 youtube video... Apparently, my left finger is amazing. I guess all I can say to that is thank you? Nothing too special about my fingers, I thought, lol!
Edited by Evshrug - 12/3/13 at 11:17pm
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Hmm,

Question: If I use an external DAC (Like bifrost or similar), do i lose dolby headphone capabilities?

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Thread Starter 
If on consoles, yes, you will lose virtual surround. Your Mixamp or equivalent device IS a dac and amp. If you try putting an audiophile dac first, they'll convert everything to standard stereo.

If on PC, yes, UNLESS your soundcard has an option to send your dac an already converted Dolby headphone signal through the optical out. The Xonar U3 does it (cheapest), and I assume the Xonar DG (which is what internal equivalent to the U3) does this. Since I don't have, nor am I knowledgeable about soundcards in general, I can't say which do/don't have that option. I assume all the Xonars with Dolby Headphone will.

Not sure on Creative's soundcards or other offerings.

Also, as far as the U3, this signal is capped at 16bit/48khz, IIRC. Might be 24/48, I'll have to check. So I'd still use your audiophile dac with a better source signal when listening to music, if you care about 24/96 or higher.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 12/4/13 at 1:45am
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