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Price to performance is subjective.

It does everything that the 990 pro does, but better. So yes, to me, it's worth the jump from the 990 Pro's price to the X1.

The standard K702 is a great headphone. I like the Annie because it has a warmer, fuller, more bassy sound. It's not that one is worse than the other. It's a different tonality based on the same sound. So you choose what you want more: A warm, rich, fuller sound, or a more analytical, and more spacious sound.

I have no heard the E10, but for music use, it should be fine for the X1, not the AKGs. The K70x demands and deserves a lot more power.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/4/13 at 12:56am
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Have seen the x1 for 170€ on amazon.de
post #15558 of 37456
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Hmm, I really wanna try the new Momentum on-ear. Alcantara (velour-ish) pads, sleek design, and apparently bassy/v-shaped. For a portable, just what I'd like.
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Alright, thanks guys. I've decided to get the Fidelio X-1. 

 

My only question is, what would be the best amp/DAC/whatever to get for all-around gaming (so I guess the e10 is out? Stereo would be bad?) as well as general music/movies etc for less than $100 or so?

 

Would a sound card like the Xonar DG be my best bet? I'd rather not have to fiddle about installing it, so if there are better external options I'd prefer those, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if I had to.


Edited by Sidiun - 8/4/13 at 4:08am
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Yea v-shaped is what im reading about the momentum on ear too. Apparently it is similar but inferior to the amperior and hd 25, though. I've had the Amperior before (bought refurbished) and was impressed with it... but as time passed i learned v-shaped wasnt my thing.
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Alright, thanks guys. I've decided to get the Fidelio X-1. 

My only question is, what would be the best amp/DAC/whatever to get for all-around gaming (so I guess the e10 is out? Stereo would be bad?) as well as general music/movies etc for less than $100 or so?

Would a sound card like the Xonar DG be my best bet? I'd rather not have to fiddle about installing it, so if there are better external options I'd prefer those, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if I had to.
Asus had two new external cards, the Xonar STU and U7 that might work.
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Get the Mad Dogs (new ones). They seal amazingly well, are extremely comfy, and sound amazing. I'll be uodating my review of them to account for the differences.

Basically looking at an 8.75 fun, 7.25 competitive.

Looks like the last MD just didnt fit me right. That and it wasn't nearly as engaging as this one.

Good to hear the new one is better, is it still very dark?

 

Also Mad Lust... it is common knowledge that Open Back Cans are more neutral and accurate than closed ones correct? Some one tried to tell me that, a shure 940 has better treble extension that a Byer Dt 880 because the Shure was a closed back... I'm pretty sure that theory is uhh well wrong [proably a Shure 940  fan boi, don't know why I'm even asking u this xD] 

 

Still, good to hear the new Md's are better than the old. Mad how would you compare the K550 to the Mad Dog in terms of Neutrality

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I dont have much experience with the K550, but I'm not one to be asked about it, because from what I've personally, I think it's a crappy headphone, no offense to anyone.

As for open vs closed in neutrality... it has nothing to do with their enclosures. A driver can be tuned to be neutral regardless of what it's in.

As for the Mad Dogs in neutrality... hmm... they're very good, just tonally warm. Bass and mids are pretty linear.
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I still want something like the Dt 880 but closed, and not the dt 770 variants... the HP Sound Magic has come up, and the Mad Dogs are always an option... but out of my previously Hifiman they where too warm... any suggestion Mad? [I love my w1000x but it's not portable] something around the $300 mark 

post #15565 of 37456
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That's tough. I'm really not a fan of closed headphones in general, which is why I'm so limited in my reviews of them, outside of headsets, for the most part. The Pro 900 is more like a closed DT990, not an 880. And yes, the Mad Dogs is quite warmer than the 880... have you tried looking into the Fischer FA-003 or Brainwavz HM5? Those two should be the same in all but name, and are known to be quite neutral...

Sorry I'm really not well versed in closed headphones.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/4/13 at 6:45am
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I found your review on the Koss KSC75 clip-ons and the Skullcandy's Slyr/Plyr pretty interesting, earlier in the review you mentioned they were on-ear headphones and then said they were over the ear with some adjusting; now what kind of adjusting was that?  Was it something that was initially designed in the headphones or some mod you did yourself?

 

I'm comparing whether to get myself the KSC75, Slyr or Plyr 1/2 (depending which of the headsets is superior) on a PC for gaming, movies, music, etc.  I only have tried a handful of headphones ranging from ultimate ears, sony, jvc, turtlebeach and cheap walgreens stuff and so far been impressed with the JVC HA-NC250 the most because their built-in active noise canceller and amplifier.  My JVC are almost a decade old now and they don't sound anywhere as good as they were and I'm looking to replace them.  This time around I need a mic too, I can get the AntLion modmic or TekNMotion's Headsetter but I need some good combination for universal use (not necessarily hardcore gaming pin-point accuracy positioning headphones) but I really want to feel the music as much as I can without breaking the bank.

 

I looked at those 3 headphones and think I'll prolly give them a shot to replace my JVC's; if you've used the JVC HA-NC250 do any of them have what it takes to replace it?  I'm currently using the integrated sound on my GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 mobo and I plan to get a sound card like the Xonar I keep hearing about in the future but my priorities first a headset (or headphone with modmic), then replace my faulty video card and then get sound card. Can any of those 3 headphones sound good enough without a soundcard and amplifier or are there better headsets out there under $100 that can outperform those 3 headphones even without an amplifier and a soundcard?

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That's tough. I'm really not a fan of closed headphones in general, which is why I'm so limited in my reviews of them, outside of headsets, for the most part. The Pro 900 is more like a closed DT990, not an 880. And yes, the Mad Dogs is quite warmer than the 880... have you tried looking into the Fischer FA-003 or Brainwavz HM5? Those two should be the same in all but name, and are known to be quite neutral...

Sorry I'm really not well versed in closed headphones.

Bah shame on you xD, still I heard you didn't like the K550 y not? 

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It sounded lifeless, cold, thin, and harsh. Nothing good about them, unless I pressed them to my head where warmth and bass kicked in. No one listens that way, so I consider them a lost cause. I heard they're very seal dependent, and I dunno what kind of fit they want, but it didn't sound great to me. I wasn't impressed with the A900x either. Both were somewhat similar to me.
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I found your review on the Koss KSC75 clip-ons and the Skullcandy's Slyr/Plyr pretty interesting, earlier in the review you mentioned they were on-ear headphones and then said they were over the ear with some adjusting; now what kind of adjusting was that?  Was it something that was initially designed in the headphones or some mod you did yourself?

I basically put my fingers where my ears would go and stretch the walls outward, to allow more space. That and tucking your ears inside/sliding them under the pads instead of giving in and letting the pads rest on the ear.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/4/13 at 7:46am
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It sounded lifeless, cold, thin, and harsh. Nothing good about them, unless I pressed them to my head where warmth and bass kicked in. No one listens that way, so I consider them a lost cause. I heard they're very seal dependent, and I dunno what kind of fit they want, but it didn't sound great to me. I wasn't impressed with the A900x either. Both were somewhat similar to me.
I basically put my fingers where my ears would go and stretch the walls outward, to allow more space. That and tucking your ears inside/sliding them under the pads instead of giving in and letting the pads rest on the ear.

You know what, that sounds a lot like the Ath w1000x, it sounded very dead and lifeless when I first got it. So the k550 must be super seal dependent like the w1000x 

 

I might the K550 and see if I can't master that seal, btw on you Byers, Mad How many clicks on the head band do you need? Ppl complain about the seal of those cans, it seems they favor biggers heads... wondering if mine is big enough xD. 

 

Hopefully it is, as I returned the Porta Pros because I was afraid of breaking them <3 

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Hmm, I basically wear the mid-fi Beyers fully extended, though I could get by a tight fit with a notch left.
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