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post #1546 of 37330

Well, I use my DT990 for music the whole day and I love them :P so I must be treble-deaf :P

 

and... mixamp+e9+dt990 rocks :)

 

P.D. MLE, I'm Tifa-fanboy, where I can download your avatar image in a bigger size? :)

post #1547 of 37330
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Originally Posted by obazavil View Post

Well, I use my DT990 for music the whole day and I love them :P so I must be treble-deaf :P

 

and... mixamp+e9+dt990 rocks :)

 

P.D. MLE, I'm Tifa-fanboy, where I can download your avatar image in a bigger size? :)


The whole day? You must be the most treble insensitive person on earth. Some people here thought I was crazy for being able to wear the D2000 all day...

 

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Originally Posted by Narwayo View Post

There isn't anyone here in head-fi that could tell something more about the Ultrasone pro 2900 please?? 

 

Mad Lust Envy

 

 trebles of the dt990( the 600 Ohm version) are really so fatiguing? I have the dt880 600 ohm model and I like this for anything, with music and videogames. But like a lot of people I don't enjoy the bass as I would like. I miss too much the "thunderous body" of battle atmosphere both in videogames and in movies. Sometimes I use a pair of M50, that has that thunderous body I like, but I cannot stand his clamping force (I use glasses when I play or watch movies) and the fake leather pads annoys me after a while with something like a sauna effect to my ears. The dt880 are the best comfort headphones I have ever put on my head. So my first thought goes to the dt990 600 Ohm, but as a lot of people criticizes his trebles I am waiting before to buy them. For sure using the dt880 they are bright, but they are at the limit for me. Sometimes I play for 3 hours non-stop too, and I am just a bit fatigued, but I can stand it. More not. I am looking for Denon 7000 and Ultrasone pro 900 or 2900. Obviously I am not buying those headphones just to play, I am an all around user.

 

In addition to the sub bass I need a good amount of mid bass too to give a real body to the game experience. I took information about the Sennheiser hd650, but even if they seem mid and bass oriented they don't seem to have that thunderous effect that I am searching for. 

 

Another great problem is that with the summer it's quite impossible to stand anything that have a lot of clamping force and as my M50. I know that the Denons have leather pads, but as they don't have almost any clamping force ( as its owners report ) I think that they wouldn't give me issues and I would be able to use them with glasses too. 

 

Another option would be the Ultrasones pro 2900 and 900. They have velours pads, but I don't know anything about their clamping force and I didn't find any infos about their differences, soundstage, ..... It seems that none owns the 2900 model.


If you think the DT880 are as bright as you can stand, then the DT990 is not a good choice. It has the huge bass you seek, but it is the brightest can I've heard along with Grados.

 

D7000 also has the bass you seek, and more. It is similar to the DT990, but pretty much better all around (highs not shrill, not as recessed midrange) aside from soundstage. Sounds amazing straight to the mixamp too, unlike the DT990, as long as you aren't using a mic with it. It's definitely a wonderful option for you if you're willing to pay, my second favorite gaming/music can and it holds a special place in my heart. There is something even better but I'm talking over $1000.

 

Do not get the HD650 for gaming. For music, it's one of those cans you yourself have to audition. I thought I would love it, but I hated the dark signature.

 

Denons have very little to no clamping force, and very little isolation. They do squeeze on glasses more than my other cans but it's not too bad.

 

Sorry I don't know anything about those Ultrasones, just the Ed 8.

post #1549 of 37330
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Google Zero Chan. That website has a LOT of anime/game art. Just search Tifa there, you'll be pleased. Yeah, Tifa is my number one fave fictional game character, along with Yuffie. biggrin.gif

To those asking about the DT990, yes if you want more bass than the DT880, the DT990 is it. I went from the DT880 to DT990 and never looked back. They sound quite similar, with the 990 adding the bass I wanted. The mids are similar, though the bass and treble on the 990s will make them sound distant, that's all.

I suggest people try the 990s, just prepare for its polarizin treble which MIGHT be too much for you. In my case, I loved the treble...most of the time. There are certain songs where it made my ears bleed... lol. For gaming, the treble shouldn't be an issue whatsoever.

I used to look into the Pro 2900 but no one talks about it, and its quite expensive. For that price, a little more gets you the D7000, and less gives you the HE4 which I have no doubt is a better headphone.
post #1550 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Google Zero Chan. That website has a LOT of anime/game art. Just search Tifa there, you'll be pleased. Yeah, Tifa is my number one fave fictional game character, along with Yuffie. biggrin.gif

To those asking about the DT990, yes if you want more bass than the DT880, the DT990 is it. I went from the DT880 to DT990 and never looked back. They sound quite similar, with the 990 adding the bass I wanted. The mids are similar, though the bass and treble on the 990s will make them sound distant, that's all.

I suggest people try the 990s, just prepare for its polarizin treble which MIGHT be too much for you. In my case, I loved the treble...most of the time. There are certain songs where it made my ears bleed... lol. For gaming, the treble shouldn't be an issue whatsoever.

I used to look into the Pro 2900 but no one talks about it, and its quite expensive. For that price, a little more gets you the D7000, and less gives you the HE4 which I have no doubt is a better headphone.


It's really not just the bass that causes the mids to take a backseat, they are recessed because the driver emphasis is on treble and bass, that is their listed signature by default. They are designing the DT990 to be recessed and the DT880 being balanced.The DT990's mids are recessed on tracks with little to no bass too.

 

Also yes, I forgot to mention the treble is perfectly fine for gaming w/ DH, just not music. It'll place a lot more emphasis on "s" and "t" sounds than it should.

 

But if you can't afford the D7000 and are not treble/recession sensitive, then by all means give it a try. And maybe the FA-011 too, if that one review is to be believed.


Edited by Alghazanth - 6/15/11 at 12:37pm
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Thread Starter 
I've had both th 880 and 990. The mids are very slightly more detailed on the 990, but more distant. Recession is often exaggerated. When something is emphasized, the trade off is something becomes recessed. They didn't make the mids recessed on purpose. It was a side effect of bass and treble emphasis. Just like EQ. You can have a mid centric headphone EQ-ed for more bass and treble, and due to your ears becoming more focused on bass and treble, mids sound weaker as a tradeoff.

In any case, If you want bass and treble, mids are gonna take a backseat. That's just how it is.

I wanna try the FA-011, but comfort is lacking. No thanks.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/15/11 at 12:47pm
post #1552 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I've had both th 880 and 990. The mids are very slightly more detailed on the 990, but more distant. Recession is often exaggerated. When something is emphasized, the trade off is something becomes recessed. They didn't make the mids recessed on purpose. It was a side effect of bass and treble emphasis. Just like EQ. You can have a mid centric headphone EQ-ed for more bass and treble, and due to your ears becoming more focused on bass and treble, mids sound weaker as a tradeoff.

In any case, If you want bass and treble, mids are gonna take a backseat. That's just how it is.

I wanna try the FA-011, but comfort is lacking. No thanks.


Have you had them on? I thought the LCD-2 was going to be awfully uncomfortable but it ended up being very comfy. I'm curious about the FA-011 because it sounds too good to be true at the price, and I've heard on another site that the review poster is a "Fanatical Fischer Fanboy".. but if it's really as good as he says it could be a breakthrough.

 

If you want EXCESSIVE bass and treble, that is.

 

But yes the whole "focusing on bass" thing with the Denons and DT990s is true and is actually why I've been moving away from them for music, though I of course still love the D7K.

 

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Thread Starter 
Why you selling the LCD2?
post #1554 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Why you selling the LCD2?


Put em on sale quite some time ago. I don't enjoy the dark laid-back sound sig of the HD650 and LCD-2. Things like the T1, HD800, D7K are much more my style. IIRC you posted somewhere that you didn't like it either?

 

post #1555 of 37330

FA-011  soundstage as good as the ATH AD700 but with great mids and punching bass.  HPA2 is still better direction wise but not with SQ.

post #1556 of 37330
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Originally Posted by ziocomposite View Post

FA-011  soundstage as good as the ATH AD700 but with great mids and punching bass.  HPA2 is still better direction wise but not with SQ.



Are you serious? Why do so few use them then?

 

And HPA2 as in TB? Why?


Edited by Alghazanth - 6/15/11 at 1:17pm
post #1557 of 37330

So few use them because of the shortage issue and difficulty of acquiring them.  I use the Sound Blaster Extigy with my xbox360 (a true 5.1 decoder) so that's the reason why the HPA2 is better position-wise.  I have a dss to use with the ad700 &/or FA-011 plus the extigy has cmss which is just as good.

post #1558 of 37330
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Alg, OIC. I haven't heard them yet, but I had a feeling that their sound sig wouldn't be to my taste. You were my guinea pig then, lol. That's exactly why I never bothered with the HD650. I have heard other laid back cans, and hated them. Looks like I ain't missing anything then.
post #1559 of 37330
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Originally Posted by ziocomposite View Post

So few use them because of the shortage issue and difficulty of acquiring them.  I use the Sound Blaster Extigy with my xbox360 (a true 5.1 decoder) so that's the reason why the HPA2 is better position-wise.  I have a dss to use with the ad700 &/or FA-011 plus the extigy has cmss which is just as good.



Are you 100% serious about it having more soundstage than the AD700? I have several flagship cans here that do not match it in soundstage.

post #1560 of 37330

MLE, have you played KH? Just listened to Simple and Clean with my T1, unbelievable.

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