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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

We can both of these here for $250, so definitely not worth that much. Also, all 3 are competitive focused. They won't be too fun to listen to. Also, all 3 are open, so sound leaks in, and you'll be able to hear everything going on around you outside the game.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

PC350 is NOT open.

Well there is the DT990 PRO which is $328. That better? 

 

I prefer open cause I'm not a huge fan of headphones and don't like the heating that ensues when wearing them.


Edited by raif89 - 7/5/13 at 10:36am
post #14987 of 37296

Sorry, I don't think I've catched the response first time. On what sound cards do I get dolby headphone and what soundcard do You guys recommend for gaming on CAL! (I decided on those)

I like the look and volume know of external sound cards like x-fi usb or u7 but I do have space and money to get sound blaster z or just xonar dg. getting xonar d1 or dx is anything reasonable to get or if I went with xonar line, then jsut dg ?

 

Is front jack on dg amplified ?

 

or recon3d. It also works with xbox360 (edit - oh nevermind. it is for headphones only)


Edited by HiCZoK - 7/5/13 at 1:54pm
post #14988 of 37296
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Originally Posted by HiCZoK View Post

Sorry, I don't think I've catched the response first time. On what sound cards do I get Dolby Headphone and what sound card do You guys recommend for gaming on CAL! (I decided on those)

I like the look and volume know of external sound cards like x-fi usb or u7 but I do have space and money to get Sound Blaster Z or just Xonar DG. getting Xonar D1 or DX is anything reasonable to get or if I went with xonar line, then just DG ?

Is front jack on dg amplified ?

or recon3d. It also works with xbox360 (edit - oh nevermind. it is for headphones only)

Most Xonar sound cards come with Dolby Headphone, the Xonar DS/DSX do not come with Dolby, but do come with DTS.

 

The Xonar DX/D1 are good sound cards, but lack a headphone amplifier, so the DX/D1 would really only be a good choice if you were going to use them with an external headphone amplifier.

 

The Xonar DG/DGX sound card come with a very basic headphone amplifier, which can work with the back panel and the front of case headphone jack.

 

The SBZ (Sound Blaster Z) come with a better DAC chip (CS4398, which is also used on the Xonar DX/D1) then the Xonar DG/DGX/DS/DGX

and the SBZ comes with a better head amp then the DG/DGX.

 

I think it's better to spend $20 for a used Xonar DG and spend the rest of your budget for the headphones (CALs?).

post #14989 of 37296

Thanks. I will think a bit more about it but If I can use praised Dolby headphone with dg/dgx (actually is connection pci/pcie the only difference here?) and have better sound than onboard, then it's ok. That is, if dx/d1 or sbz doesnt actually provide much better audio than dg.

both dx and sbz are 2,5-3 times more expensive than new xonar dg. But I am leaning towards DG thanks to its price and headphone amplifier. And thanks to it being available for pci slot. I have more of these and more space in that part of the case.

 

I will also add that I have a good fractal case with very good front jack on the top of the case. It is easily accessible and I want to continue to use it. Fractal case have good shielding and quality on their front ports.

 

OORRRR

 

 

I could go external - but I would go with external sound card ONLY if it also worked at least passively with my 360 and allow to have headphones and speaers plugged in the same time and a volume know.

I dont have any receiver or anything and I am always looking for a way to connect my pc and console, speakers and headphoenes to one "box" on the desk and use that for all audio. 

But the problem is that most external sound cards require pc drivers and would only operate if pc was turned on right ?

 

edit: and yes. Whenever I will get dg or sbz or external thingy, my budget for headphones doesn't change I think. I WILL do some listening of headphones in store next week but I am pretty much set on CAL!. Everyone says those are one of best headphones ever and I would have to raise the budget on headphones quite above cal price, to get better cans


Edited by HiCZoK - 7/5/13 at 3:08pm
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Can we have a quick chat about comfort?

 

I can look at the numbers you have listed in the gaming guide for comfort on the different headphones and I can look at other guides on this site for the same but for someone, me, who has only tried on the headphones they have at Bestbuy the numbers listed for comfort have very little meaning for me but I consider it just as important as the sound. I typically game for 3-4 hours late night after the kids are in bed and would like to have the sound I have with my speakers so I need to get headphones. 

 

Headphone that did not feel good to wear:
Pain = Sony - X-Series
Misery = Sennheiser HD 380
Death = Sennheiser HD 280
There is no way I could play for 10-minutes with any of the above headphones. Some felt too bulky while others felt like the clamp of doom. 
 
 
Headphones that did feel good to wear:
Heaven = Pioneer HDJ-2000-K
Tolerable = Koss-ProDJ200
 
For both the headphones that did feel good to wear I really did not like the sound. Koss-ProDJ200 sounded muffled to me while the Pioneer HDJ-2000-K lost clarity when the volume went up so even though I like how they feel on my head I just cannot justify either of them for the prices listed.
 
If anyone could recommend headphones that feel like either of the 2 listed that I like to wear I would appreciate it. Then I could start to decide where to go from there.
post #14991 of 37296
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Originally Posted by HiCZoK View Post

Thanks. I will think a bit more about it but If I can use praised Dolby headphone with dg/dgx (actually is connection pci/pcie the only difference here?) and have better sound than on-board, then it's OK. That is, if dx/d1 or sbz doesnt actually provide much better audio than dg.

both dx and sbz are 2,5-3 times more expensive than new Xonar DG. But I am leaning towards DG thanks to its price and headphone amplifier. And thanks to it being available for PCI slot. I have more of these and more space in that part of the case.

I will also add that I have a good fractal case with very good front jack on the top of the case. It is easily accessible and I want to continue to use it. Fractal case have good shielding and quality on their front ports.

OORRRR

I could go external - but I would go with external sound card ONLY if it also worked at least passively with my 360 and allow to have headphones and speaers plugged in the same time and a volume know.

I dont have any receiver or anything and I am always looking for a way to connect my pc and console, speakers and headphoenes to one "box" on the desk and use that for all audio. 

But the problem is that most external sound cards require pc drivers and would only operate if pc was turned on right ?

edit: and yes. Whenever I will get dg or sbz or external thingy, my budget for headphones doesn't change I think. I WILL do some listening of headphones in store next week but I am pretty much set on CAL!. Everyone says those are one of best headphones ever and I would have to raise the budget on headphones quite above cal price, to get better cans

Xonar DG/DGX are the same card, except for the PCI/PCI-E interface.

Your looking at spending way more cash if you go external, over internal.

The Fiio E10 external USB/DAC/Amp is $64, but it's 2-channel audio, but does not offer sound sound features.

I prefer the Takstar Pro 80 (Gemini HSR-1000) headphones over CALS, the CALs have good sound, but the cups are too small for my ears.

 

Get the Xonar DG for the PC and buy the Astro Mix-amp for use with the console.

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Heh... either astro mixamp and takstar headphones are not available in Poland. Nowhere. Not even auction sites. And those gemini indeed look good
I still have an amplifier which came with my older tactic360 sigms creative headphones so i could still use that for console.
post #14993 of 37296
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Originally Posted by Zalbik View Post

Can we have a quick chat about comfort?

 

I can look at the numbers you have listed in the gaming guide for comfort on the different headphones and I can look at other guides on this site for the same but for someone, me, who has only tried on the headphones they have at Bestbuy the numbers listed for comfort have very little meaning for me but I consider it just as important as the sound. I typically game for 3-4 hours late night after the kids are in bed and would like to have the sound I have with my speakers so I need to get headphones. 

 

Headphone that did not feel good to wear:
Pain = Sony - X-Series
Misery = Sennheiser HD 380
Death = Sennheiser HD 280
There is no way I could play for 10-minutes with any of the above headphones. Some felt too bulky while others felt like the clamp of doom. 
 
 
Headphones that did feel good to wear:
Heaven = Pioneer HDJ-2000-K
Tolerable = Koss-ProDJ200
 
For both the headphones that did feel good to wear I really did not like the sound. Koss-ProDJ200 sounded muffled to me while the Pioneer HDJ-2000-K lost clarity when the volume went up so even though I like how they feel on my head I just cannot justify either of them for the prices listed.
 
If anyone could recommend headphones that feel like either of the 2 listed that I like to wear I would appreciate it. Then I could start to decide where to go from there.

 

 

All the headphones you listed are what I would consider more medium sized closed heapdhones.  They're  also using leather/pleather pads.  In my experience, the full-size circumaural open phones with velour pads are usually more comfortable.

post #14994 of 37296

Thanks for the great thread Mad Lust Envy. I'm looking for an amp to pair with mostly with SR-850s and FA-011s, and whatever other headphones  I end up getting down the line. I already have an X-Fi HD, which is great, but I think the FA-011s could benefit from some extra power. I'm considering the Magni or the O2, but I might be willing to spend a little more if the the performance justifies it. Mainly I want something that is very clear and of course has a good soundstage. What would you recommend as a step up from the Magni or O2?

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Hey MLE since you have heard both the DT 990 600 ohms and the X1, how would you compare there bass, as in deep bass levels?  If I wanted to eventually get a 2nd pair of headphones to go alongside my Annies I wouldn't mind something with some deep bass on them. I would assume the asgard 2 could sufficiently power a 600 ohm headphone without much problem?

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Evs, Yuin G1A...
Nope.

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Evs... I have no clue. I'd say the X1, but I dunno if that's the kind of sound you like.

Playing some Batman: Arkham City with THX Tru Studio. Really good positional cues, though it's off in that even when the person talking is close to Batman, they sound like 7 feet away. I'll have to test it with DH to see if it's an in game thing, or THX being wonky.
Nope, but you're right to guess in the direction of a signature I normally wouldn't choose. I think I've got good complimentary headphones on the way.
Batman AC is one of my games I bought but is sitting in my backlog. Enjoying yourself? Seems like you learned more about surround in that game, are you enjoying it more now? I would think that if distance would be a problem with THX TSP, it would still have that sort of issue with DH. But you're equipped to test for yourself. I wonder if you'll find one processing to be best with some games and the other with others?

I'm really tired, but I'm taking stuff out from my car. Tomorrow, I'm trading it in at the dealership for my first non-hand-me-down, purchased car! I'd be lying if I denied that the Golf's much nicer sound system contributed to the sense that I was getting a much nicer car than the Chevy Sonic, for just a little more money. I'm... So... Excited!
*snore....*
Edited by Evshrug - 7/5/13 at 8:23pm
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Not to derail the discussion too much, but...1001 pages.

 

ONE THOUSAND AND ONE PAGES, with a current total of 15,002 posts.

 

At this rate, we'll need a second thread, just like how they had to make a new Stax thread over in the High-end Audio section a long time ago.

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denon 1001 anyone ?

Now I really have to get CAL! :D

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Double post for some reason


Edited by raif89 - 7/6/13 at 6:50am
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Originally Posted by raif89 View Post

 

Well there is the DT990 PRO which is $328. That better? 

 

I prefer open cause I'm not a huge fan of headphones and don't like the heating that ensues when wearing them.

Oh I'd be using these with an Asus Xonar STX. Is that enough to make use of those headphones? And that's pretty much the best price I can find for that headphone, is it actually worth it?

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