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post #14896 of 37293

Hello I'm new here and would first off really like to thank mad lust envy and of course everyone who also conributed for this great headphone guide. I had a DT990 Edition for a bit over a year and i'm thinking about getting the T90 and has anyone spend some time with the T90 and can tell me how they compare to the DT990 Edition? Will use them mainly for gaming (on a asus xonar essece stx) and music (same soundcard) and am still confused if i would profit from also getting a fiio E09k + E07K combo?


Edited by spikes - 7/3/13 at 2:28am
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The STX is the basic equivalent of the Fiio E9K, and a very good DAC. You wouldn't need anything more for the T90, which is apparently easier to drive than the DT990s.
post #14898 of 37293

great thanks for the reply, did you have a chance to check out the T90?
 

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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post

What's the difference between the Turtle Beach DSS and DSS2?

 

Like MLE said, DSS1 has DH and DSS2 uses TB's own proprietary HRTF.

 

The DSS2 actually do have better positional cues than the DSS, if I were to compare... the DSS2 is quite akin to Creative's old CMSS-3D, except almost without the "tin-can" effect. The ability to "switch" the virtual surround speakers will actually depend on what type of headphones you have. I find that cans with larger soundstage usually benefit more from this than ones with very forward sounding signatures. Otherwise you usually wouldn't hear much of a notable difference.

 

I've got both of them and I honestly prefer the original DSS more, simply because the DSS2 loses out on immersion.

 

I do not play MP games much anymore these days and when I do, DH is usually good enough. Hand-eye coordination + game sense + understanding of mechanics > sound, all the time IMO.

post #14900 of 37293

Greetings everyone.

Soon, I'm going to receive a PS 1000, and a burson Soloist, so my good old HD 650 and burson HA 160 can be use for something else.

 

that is: gaming rig!!! Both my PS3 and PC gaming are near, and I have an astrogaming mixamp (not 2013).

 

I can't find the information, but can I output the signal from the Mixamp (pc sound coming from USB, PS3 coming from optical) to the burson HA 160 or do I need to connect the HD650 in the mixamp?...

lost I am
 

post #14901 of 37293
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The Mixamp does not do proper usb audio, other than chat and very lackluster stereo (not good quality stereo at that).

Unless you PC/soundcard has an optical out that passes on Dolby Digital 5.1, the Mixamp won't function correctly on your PC. This is why something like the Xonar U3 which not only transfers Dolby Digital, but Dolby Headphone to other, better Dacs and amps, is more ideal. For PC use only.

For the Mixamp on console, you would hook up your audiophile amp to the Mixamp's headphone jack (to pass on Dolby Headphone). It's the only way for console use (if you wanna use your good amps).
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/3/13 at 3:24am
post #14902 of 37293

Thanks. My burson HA160 got only one input, so it's going to be tough. I guess I'll drop that, keep the astrogaming purely for the PS3 with my bose supra, and buy a card like the U3, the same setup as you... I could even go from the PS3 to my actual headphone rig (it's a bit overkill though), burson DA 160/burson soloist/grado PS 1000).

 

hard to find the perfect solution for good surround gaming from PC, plus not too much hardware involved..
 

post #14903 of 37293
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Well, the U3 is a pretty simple solution, as you can just go from its spdif out to your DAC's spdif in (assuming it has one). I dunnk what internal soundcard has dolby headpjone and passes it to its spdif like the U3, though.
post #14904 of 37293
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Well, the U3 is a pretty simple solution, as you can just go from its spdif out to your DAC's spdif in (assuming it has one). I dunnk what internal soundcard has dolby headpjone and passes it to its spdif like the U3, though.
Sweet jesus, I had no idea the U3 had optical output. I'm surprised it hasn't flown off the shelves since AFAIK it's the only external DH hardware with this capability.

Do you know what kind of optical output port the U3 has (e.g. the usual TOSLink or coax)? I'll probably scoop one up as there's a $10 MIR going on them this month.
post #14905 of 37293

For me it's even better, the burson soloist got THREE input, so even if I grab a xonar U7, I can directly go analog to the amp, and then drive the headphones (ps 1000 or HD650). I guess even output from the mixamp from jack 3.5--> 2analog in the solist.

the PS 1000 though is a bad gaming headphone, way too heavy
 

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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

Sweet jesus, I had no idea the U3 had optical output. I'm surprised it hasn't flown off the shelves since AFAIK it's the only external DH hardware with this capability.

Do you know what kind of optical output port the U3 has (e.g. the usual TOSLink or coax)? I'll probably scoop one up as there's a $10 MIR going on them this month.

The 3.5mm output is a combo. Both spdif and analog. Like Macbooks. In the Xonar software, you can set the output to be analog or spdif, and change the spdif from standard passthrough (Dolby Digital, no conversion) to PCM (where it converts to Dolby Headphone, if you turn DH on, if not, it's a standard stereo PCM ).

The U3 comes bundled with the little standard toslink to 3.5mm adapter.

Basically, you set the U3 to 7.1 Dolby Digital in the sound properties, and just change what sort of output you want it to have with the Xonar software, which is much easier to use than the Creative software, and remembers what settings you have (for each USB input, you can set them differently).
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/3/13 at 5:50am
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I see, so no proprietary optical-to-3.5mm cable needed? With the adapter I can just use a standard TOSLink cable?

This is groundbreaking..
post #14908 of 37293
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I was VERY close to returning the U3, until I noticed that the spdif retained Dolby headphone with the right software settings. That immediately made them absolutely worthwhile,even if it cost double the price.

And yeah, you can use your regular cables. The adapter works perfectly.
post #14909 of 37293
Sweet. Pulled the trigger on one for $30 AR for desktop usage. The U3 is certainly easily worth $60-80 given the optical output.

Dolby Headphone + desktop amp/DAC + Baby Orpheus = smily_headphones1.gif
post #14910 of 37293

I'm decided, Xonar U7, and the 3.5m jack to 2 RCA real cables cable to hook all that to the burson soloist, I'll cross my finger and hope it'll work as intended, so I can sell my HA 160 and minimise the amount of stuff on my desk:)

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