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It retains Dolby Headphone through it's SPDIF out? If so, why didn't you ever say so? tongue.gif

You don't have a dac with an spdif?

I know nowadays lots of dacs are USB only, so it's understandable.

I probably should've held out and bought an E17 instead of the D03K, seeing as I could benefit from a portable amp/spdif dac, but I didn't wanna spend $100 more for a situational device.

 

Hah, I never thought about using it that way before. I'm not even entirely sure it'll work. I guess I could try and hook it up to my receiver but that would require me to find that stupid little 3.5mm optical adapter thingy.

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Looking for open or closed gaming headphones for the xbox 360, will be pluggin them straight into my TV. I need good soundstage, very good positional cues, and good bass for those grenade explosions. And btw, why does your headphone sounds recessed on the mids and highs when connected to a TV?

My budget is 160 euro.


Edited by dakanao - 7/2/13 at 8:25am
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Hooking up straight to the TV and good positional cues do not ever mix. TV's headphone outs will be stereo.
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Looking for open or closed gaming headphones for the xbox 360, will be pluggin them straight into my TV. I need good soundstage, very good positional cues, and good bass for those grenade explosions. And btw, why does your headphone sounds recessed on the mids and highs when connected to a TV?

Because the TV isn't a very good source. You may want to invest in a Astro Mixamp. That way you can get surround sound out if any headphone you plug into it.

His much are you wanting to spend on headphones?


Thanks,


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Hooking up straight to the TV and good positional cues do not ever mix. TV's headphone outs will be stereo.

Alright, and what's the best mixamp + headphone of my needs with a total cost of 160 euros?

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Because the TV isn't a very good source. You may want to invest in a Astro Mixamp. That way you can get surround sound out if any headphone you plug into it.

His much are you wanting to spend on headphones?


Thanks,


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I want to spend a maximum of 160 euros on both the headphones and the mixamp. What's the best mixamp and headphone of my needs for a total of 160 euros?

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Look for a cheap used Turtle Beach DSS (original, not DSS2), and a pair of DT990 pros.
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Look for a cheap used Turtle Beach DSS (original, not DSS2), and a pair of DT990 pros.

What Ohm DT990's?

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250ohm DT990 pros only come in 250ohmm, but the 250ohm are the easiest to drive. The 32ohm plays louder, but less refined until you use a powerful amp. The 250ohm requires less power, but it won't be driven as loudly off lesser equipment. In the case of non-chat gaming, the DSS and Mixamp will at least play the 990 loudly.

Recessed mids are a product of v shaped headphones. Bass and treble emphasis like the 990.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/2/13 at 8:58am
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250ohm DT990 pros only come in 250ohmm, but the 250ohm are the easiest to drive. The 32ohm plays louder, but less refined until you use a powerful amp. The 250ohm requires less power, but it won't be driven as loudly off lesser equipment. In the case of non-chat gaming, the DSS and Mixamp will at least play the 990 loudly.

Yeah I don't need a mic. So the 250 ohm will play fine from the DSS?

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I'd invest in an amp to attach to it later, but they'll be ok. They'll at least be better than anything easier to drive in your price range. Good bass, large soundstage, and positional cues aren't normally found together.
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I'd invest in an amp to attach to it later, but they'll be ok. They'll at least be better than anything easier to drive in your price range. Good bass, large soundstage, and positional cues aren't normally found together.

Will you be able to hear ninja pro users within a distance of like 20 meters in a map when your last man standing in a S&D game in MW2 with the DT990's and the DSS combined?

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That just sounds ridiculous.

No headphone is gonna all the sudden make you hear something in game unless you're comparing it to really muddy, crappy headphones.

Ninja pro users aren't audible with any headphone unless you use whatever perk raises footstep noise in MW2, which then will make NP users have standard footsteps.

Anyone who claims otherwise are just spewing forth hyperbole. A good headphone will let you hear what is mixed in game well, not highlight footsteps decibel levels mixed so lowly in the game audio.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/2/13 at 9:31am
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That just sounds ridiculous.

No headphone is gonna all the sudden make you hear something in game unless you're comparing it to really muddy, crappy headphones.

Ninja pro users aren't audible with any headphone unless you use whatever perk raises footstep noise in MW2, which then will make NP users have standard footsteps.

Anyone who claims otherwise are just spewing forth hyperbole. A good headphone will let you hear what is mixed in game well, not highlight footsteps decibel levels mixed so lowly in the game audio.

Hmm I see. But the 3D positional cues are really good right with the DT990's?

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Look at the guide, if some scores an 8 or higher, you're pretty much set. Hell, 7.5 or higher. Then it's up to you to decide what kind of sound signature you would like.

There is no end be all headphone, especially not with your budget. You get something, you lose something else. If you want to analyze footsteps, get the AD700s. They have very, very little bass, so you can focus on smaller details. However, your example is too extreme, even for the AD700.

The 990s do positional audio very well.

I'm not gonna sell people BS, and claim you can hear a fly buzzing from the other side of a map with ANY headphone.

The most important thing is to have detailed headphones with large soundstages and great positional accuracy for the closest thing to god mode in terms of game audio. AD700, Q701 come to mind. Even so, it's a few percentages better than everything else that scores an 8 or so. Not night and day or even better enough to dismiss other, well balanced headphones that are more immersive.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/2/13 at 9:35am
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