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post #14821 of 37269
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Originally Posted by calpis View Post

And now an X1 review is coming? Can't wait to give that one a read :D

 

 

Here's one you can read in the meantime:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/670318/philips-fidelio-x1-review-comparison

post #14822 of 37269
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

 

 

Here's one you can read in the meantime:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/670318/philips-fidelio-x1-review-comparison

 

I may have to pick these up with my next paycheck then. It'd be fun to compare these with my 2900's. The MD's will just have to wait.

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please mad-lust-envys i need your help on this, i wud wish you answer as soon as possible, i need your advice on wether getting sennheiser 598 or pc 360, i dont usually use mic, i have a big head, and i would like it for gaming so ( soundstage , clearity , abit bass needed for gaming ) please help !!! any one else plz help too

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it would be really a dream come true if you can add me on face book am a huge fan and am kinda hopeless since am trying to get a headset i know for a guy like you probably would ignore this but please i wont take much of your time just 5 min max :( type Saif.hosam.9@facebook.com on search and you will find me it's ok if u cant tho i understand

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Originally Posted by xXSnAkEeYeSXx View Post

please mad-lust-envys i need your help on this, i wud wish you answer as soon as possible, i need your advice on wether getting sennheiser 598 or pc 360, i dont usually use mic, i have a big head, and i would like it for gaming so ( soundstage , clearity , abit bass needed for gaming ) please help !!! any one else plz help too

Neither have particularly much bass, but the Pc360 is more balanced, and the 598 is 'clearer'. They're similar sounding though, and if you absolutely need a built in mic, I'd just get the PC360. I'm not a fan of the 598's tonal balance.

Again, bass is not that great on either. I'd personally get the 558 over either of them, as that's a little more enjoyable to me.
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Daleb,
Thanks for the link! And I agree, that is a more compelling superman! They just didn't achieve that balance in the movie IMO though. I was going to say I've seen better dialogue and plot in Saturday morning cartoons, but you proved it for me lol (I was thinking of Batman, the animated series).

SnakeEyes,
No need to be self-depreciating, and it's better to answer a 5 minute question HERE than friending you on Facebook so we can send you embarrassing photos wink.gif
Anyway, if you don't use a mic much, then the Pc360 is basically an HD558 without a mic. If you read Mad's guide (first post), you'll see that we'll generally recommend the HD558 FIRST before the HD598, not that the HD598 is bad but the sound signature of the HD558 is a bit more fun to play video games with. I've listened to the HD558 too, and I agree that it's a very great sounding headphone with good headphone surround response, without getting into the more expensive headphones. You can also buy an inexpensive lapel mic, they are just a few bucks but sound better than Microsoft's official headset mic. To complete your setup and really make use of the soundstage the HD558 can offer, I would highly recommend you also get a headphone surround sound processor, like (for consoles) an Astro Mixamp, Turtle Beach DSS or DSS2, for PC you should get an internal soundcard or an Asus Xonar U3, or a Creative Recon3D USB to work with any gaming platform.

There will be plenty of "Wow!" moments with that setup.
post #14827 of 37269
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Not for nothing EVS, but the Pc360 is like a 595 with a mic, not the 558, lol.

I find the 558 to be the most musical of the 5** series. I just haven't had an extensive time demoing them, and therefore I couldn't put up a review of it. If someone has a 558 to send me, I'd love to review it. I really like their sound for the price. I just dunno how it performs for gaming, though I expect it to be particularly proficient in positional cues. I know these can be modded like the 555, though I hear it doesn't exactly turn them into 598s. Not that I mind. I'd probably stick to their stock sound.

My Fiio D03K should be here at any moment, and once I have confirmed that the U3 DOES output Dolby Headphone through the spdif signal (I'm 99% sure right now)... there is no reason NOT to get one for PC, as you can feed the signal to a legit audiophile dac and amp... making it the cheapest method of getting Dolby headphone without sacrificing sound quality (allowing you to use your own equipment). If You DID have to use the U3's dac and amp, then yes, it could be better, but since you don't... it's looking pretty attractive atm.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/1/13 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I've seen better dialogue and plot in Saturday morning cartoons

Good cartoons and anime in general do a better job with plot then Hollywood tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Not for nothing EVS, but the Pc360 is like a 595 with a mic, not the 558, lol.

My Fiio D03K should be here at any moment, ...
XD I stand corrected. Well, I recline corrected, lol.
The D03k is a DAC? Kinda like an E07k without an amp? Maybe I should look into one... Though I'm still thinking I'll eventually have to buy Nameless' Recon3D just so I don't have to plug & unplug a soundcard every time I switch between booting Mac OS X for work & art and Windows for a few hardcore games. Oddly, Steam is working better on the Mac side than in Windows, and downloads via Ethernet are in the Kbps in the afternoon on the windows side.
*shrug*

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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Good cartoons and anime in general do a better job with plot then Hollywood tongue.gif
With all the exploration that has come before in cartoons, comics, and even movies, I just don't understand why this one struggles so much. The Hulk movie directed by the same guy who did "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" did a better job with his box office flop (which I actually enjoyed). Well...
*shrug*
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

XD I stand corrected. Well, I recline corrected, lol.
The D03k is a DAC? Kinda like an E07k without an amp? Maybe I should look into one... Though I'm still thinking I'll eventually have to buy Nameless' Recon3D just so I don't have to plug & unplug a soundcard every time I switch between booting Mac OS X for work & art and Windows for a few hardcore games. Oddly, Steam is working better on the Mac side than in Windows, and downloads via Ethernet are in the Kbps in the afternoon on the windows side.
*shrug*
With all the exploration that has come before in cartoons, comics, and even movies, I just don't understand why this one struggles so much. The Hulk movie directed by the same guy who did "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" did a better job with his box office flop (which I actually enjoyed). Well...
*shrug*

Yeah, the Fiio D03K is a spdif dac only. USB is just for power. I had the D3 (first gen version) and it worked well until it crapped out on me. The D03K goes for less than $30.

Only bought it because ironically, my of a "beast" dac in my Compass 2 doesn't wanna play nice with the U3's spdif signal. I know it's not the U3 being problematic, because I hooked up the Mixamp via the spdif to the U3, and it worked fine.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/1/13 at 7:46am
post #14831 of 37269
It's a sad-face circumstance. Hope the workaround works for you!
post #14832 of 37269

i dont have the money to buy the astro or dds2 Evs /cry tho thanks alot for the advices mostly appreciated !!, Mad lust can you please share your results here soon i would be thankfull and deeply appreciated, just a fast question from an ignorant guy, would there be a difference between Fiio D03K with mica 6ft optical toslink cable and the one you linked, am really not an expert that's why am always saved :P not always tho :), atm i will search for a guide on how to use it

post #14833 of 37269
Thread Starter 
The Fiio D03K is a standard stereo spdif dac. it doesn't do virtual surround or anything of the sort. I ONLY have it because my Compass 2 won't accept the U3's Spdif signal.

I dunno what you're asking.

Doing some quick comparing, and it doesn't sound much different from my Compass 2 dac, at least at first listen. This is why I say DACs are overrated and differences are blown out of proportion. Any decent dac will do just fine. This is a $30 dac compared to a multi-hundred dollar dac with a dac chip used in extremely high end dacs. the only dac I'd say was noticeably not up to par to the rest was the original Fiio E7.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/1/13 at 9:57am
post #14834 of 37269
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My 'home' computer setups...

Music, non-gaming needs:

Alienware M17X R4 - Spdif out - Compass 2 - Headphones

Gaming:

Alienware M17x R4 - USB - Xonar U3 - Spdif out - Fiio D03k - Analog in - Compass 2 - Headphones

^This setup is a daunting, but the Xonar and Fiio are small and will be hidden away behind the desk. I just use a USB hub which everything connects to, and only the USB cable from the hub goes to my laptop. This way I get Dolby Headphone from the Xonar U3, but I bypass the internal dac AND amp and use the Fiio D03K's dac/Compass 2's amp.

Away from home:

Alienware M17X R4 - Internal Creative Recon 3Di soundcard - headphones

^My easy solution, which I just play with THX Tru Studio and deal with the less than audiophile level internal amp/dac. I only use the Koss clip-ons, so I don't need to go all out.
post #14835 of 37269

hmm so i dont need the fiio d03k for my hd 585 headphones on pc ? 

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