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post #14686 of 37330

Hey MLE,

 

have you thought about the TH-600?

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I'd like to try it, but I hear it's more neutral than the D7000. I don't want less of ANYTHING than the D7000. Call it controlled, I call it LESS. The D7000 was perfect as is, no modding, no nothing. I'm sure the TH600 is great but I would never spend that much on something with a sound signature not suited to my preference. I hear the TH900 isn't as neutral and more fun oriented. I'd save up for that if I were ever to spend that much on headphones. For now, I'm really happy with the X1, and I don't see anything changing that in the foreseeable future.
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Hi Mad Lust Envy. I am really in a tough situation to choose between a Mad Dog 3.2 and a Sennheiser HD650. I read your review and saw that they are nearly similar. The bass is better on the Mad Dog, but on the other hand the mid on the HD650 is better than Mad Dog. I am as a current owner of a HD598 I found out that the bass is weak, the mid is not impact and the treble is fatiguing. I love the bass and mid but more on the mid.

 

Another tough choice is I do not have a good amplify.If I choose the Mad Dog I will have to choose to buy high power amplify for orthos such as The Pan Am as orthos are hungry for power and the total cost could be out of my budget. Otherwise if I choose HD650 of couse this headphone is more expensive than Mad Dog ($500 vs $300) but I read a lot and found out the Bottlehead Crack is a very nice amp for HD650 and the total cost for this combo is lower than the Mad Dog combo.

 

To look for help. What is your suggestion? My music tastes such as Pop, Dance, Instruments, classical, Jazz, Movies-Games soundtrack. Thanks.


Edited by LoveKnight - 6/25/13 at 7:46am
post #14689 of 37330
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I'd like to try it, but I hear it's more neutral than the D7000. I don't want less of ANYTHING than the D7000. Call it controlled, I call it LESS. The D7000 was perfect as is, no modding, no nothing. I'm sure the TH600 is great but I would never spend that much on something with a sound signature not suited to my preference. I hear the TH900 isn't as neutral and more fun oriented. I'd save up for that if I were ever to spend that much on headphones. For now, I'm really happy with the X1, and I don't see anything changing that in the foreseeable future.

It's one of the better 'closed' headphones I've personally heard (got to try it at the local meet with Justin from HeadAmp) but I definitely prefer open headphones any day unless I was in a situation that absolutely required a closed headphone (i.e. airplane) and then I would probably use IEMs.  It seemed fairly neutral, with a slight warm tilt, a satisfying amount of impact and the driver had decent speed and attack.  My sampling was short so I can't say much beyond that - it had the characteristics of a typical closed can, but more open sounding than most others.  The TH900 is said to sound even more open sounding, but take that for what you will - I don't think it can match most open headphones.  I've actually never heard any of the Dxxx series unfortunately so I can't make a comparison there.  When considering a closed can, the fact that this is technically semi-open (and a primary purpose of a closed can is isolation) and the high price tag, that would sway me towards something like the MD.  I think a used D7000 is likely the better value.

Glad you are enjoying the X1 though, I am curious as to how they sound so hopefully I'll get to sample one sometime. beerchug.gif

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Originally Posted by LoveKnight View Post

Hi Mad Lust Envy. I am really in a tough situation to choose between a Mad Dog 3.2 and a Sennheiser HD650. I read your review and saw that they are nearly similar. The bass is better on the Mad Dog, but on the other hand the mid on the HD650 is better than Mad Dog. I am as a current owner of a HD598 I found out that the bass is weak, the mid is not impact and the treble is fatiguing. I love the bass and mid but more on the mid.

 

Another tough choice is I do not have a good amplify.If I choose the Mad Dog I will have to choose to buy high power amplify for orthos such as The Pan Am as orthos are hungry for power and the total cost could be out of my budget. Otherwise if I choose HD650 of couse this headphone is more expensive than Mad Dog ($500 vs $300) but I read a lot and found out the Bottlehead Crack is a very nice amp for HD650 and the total cost for this combo is lower than the Mad Dog combo.

 

To look for help. What is your suggestion? My music tastes such as Pop, Dance, Instruments, classical, Jazz, Movies-Games soundtrack. Thanks.

Because the HD600/HD650 perform their best on a well-paired amp, your best bet is likely the MD.  A good entry level amp like the Schiit Magni would provide plenty of power (and is probably the best cost-efficient pairing you'll find) for about $100.  So, you could technically work with the MD + Magni for about $425-$450 with shipping considered.  The Crack is known to pair well with the HD600/HD650, but that setup would be much more expensive in comparison and I believe you have to build the Crack, I think it only comes as a kit.  Just some things to consider cool.gif

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Originally Posted by LoveKnight View Post

Hi Mad Lust Envy. I am really in a tough situation to choose between a Mad Dog 3.2 and a Sennheiser HD650. I read your review and saw that they are nearly similar. The bass is better on the Mad Dog, but on the other hand the mid on the HD650 is better than Mad Dog. I am as a current owner of a HD598 I found out that the bass is weak, the mid is not impact and the treble is fatiguing. I love the bass and mid but more on the mid.

Another tough choice is I do not have a good amplify.If I choose the Mad Dog I will have to choose to buy high power amplify for orthos such as The Pan Am as orthos are hungry for power and the total cost could be out of my budget. Otherwise if I choose HD650 of couse this headphone is more expensive than Mad Dog ($500 vs $300) but I read a lot and found out the Bottlehead Crack is a very nice amp for HD650 and the total cost for this combo is lower than the Mad Dog combo.

To look for help. What is your suggestion? My music tastes such as Pop, Dance, Instruments, classical, Jazz, Movies-Games soundtrack. Thanks.

I think people are overstating the need for the HD650. I founded to sound GREAT off the $100 Fiio E9K. Certainly not a big loss compared to the Audio-GD SA-31 which has a TON more power, and costs 5 times the price, nor the Compass 2. I liked the HD650 off each of these. I really, really like them and would be my alternative for the K702 Anniversary.

The MD needs an amp, but it is NOT hard to drive. It can be enjoyable off lesser equipment. Probably less picky than the 650. Honestly, I find the MD's treble to be slightly fatiguing. Yes, it's a very smooth headphone, but there is a peak somewhere that bothered me at times. The HD650 is never fatiguing, and a lot easier to relax to. The HD650 has better mids, and punchy bass, while the MD has better bass than mids (3.2). I prefer the open presentation of the HD650 over the closed MD.


http://www.razordogaudio.com/collections/sennheiser/products/sennheiser-hd-650-audiophile-headphones-hd650-new

HD650 is $400 after the $100 off coupon.

If you prefer bass, get the MD, if you prefer mids, get the HD650.

Either way, if I were you, I'd spend $365 on the K702 Anniversary which is like a more open HD650. Good bass, good mids, good treble, great comfort. Sounds great off a E9K, Magni (tested both), whatever desktop amp you throw at it, I'm sure.

http://www.amazon.com/AKG-K702-65th-Anniversary-Edition/dp/B00A8LZ5GU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1372180310&sr=8-2&keywords=k702
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/25/13 at 10:14am
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Can someone reccommend me a flagship headphone+amp setup that would be prilimarily used for music and gaming? I'm looking for a overall balanced sound from the headphones.
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Originally Posted by OnePunchMan View Post

Can someone reccommend me a flagship headphone+amp setup that would be prilimarily used for music and gaming? I'm looking for a overall balanced sound from the headphones.

Might help to state a budget.

FPS gaming or other PC games?

Open or closed headphones? does it matter?

Does your PC computer have an add-on sound card, or your just currently using on-board audio?

post #14694 of 37330

Hey guys, Razer just released their own HRTF tech and is currently free - http://www.razerzone.com/surround

 

Care to try them out guys?

It's free for a limited time, so no harm done by trying it out.

post #14695 of 37330

I listened to the audio demo, but I don't hear all that much directionality or soundstage.  The audio demo is also a bit misleading as the stereo track has been EQ-ed to sound pretty crappy with no bass or low range.

 

Maybe it sounds better in actual use.

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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post

I sent Dolby a new email to ask them to clarify this issue for us. Let's hope that they can bring some light on this.

Hi again,

here comes the next question. This is a big discussion on HeadFi.org.  When DHT v4 is activated for headphone use, does Windows or the running application send real 5.1 or 7.1 to the sound processor ? Or does it only provide stereo information that is kind of processed to sound like surround.

So is it real multi-channel information or only stereo the basis for what DHT v4 sends to the headphone? That is very important for a lot of FPS gamers out on HeadFi.org and elsewhere.  And the new interface tells us nothing about what’s going on behind the curtain…

Please clarify

 

Peter

Hi Peter-

 

Thanks for the email.  In Dolby Home Theater v4 the headphone virtualizer algorithm receives and processes discrete multichannel audio.  Hope this helps.

 

-The Dolby Game Team

 

 

post #14697 of 37330
Ah, right it would definitely be for fps games on console. Budget is around 1000-1500 but would be willing to go higher if the reason is justifiable or if I know I'd get my moneys worth. I'd prefer open headphones but would also accept closed as well.
Edited by OnePunchMan - 6/25/13 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by OnePunchMan View Post

Ah, right it would definitely be for fps games on console. Budget is around 1000-1500 but would be willing to go higher if the reason is justifiable or if I know I'd get my moneys worth. I'd prefer open headphones but would also accept closed as well.

Console gaming.

Astro Mix-amp, $130

Audio Technica ATH-AD900X open headphones, $220

Any mic you would like, $20(?)

 

Total, $370 (plus any tax or shipping).

 

Not sure why anyone would need to spend more for headphone "console" gaming.

post #14699 of 37330

The T90 looks BRIGHT on headroom's graphs.  Bass extension looks decent though, not that you'd care though when the treble is piercing your soul.

 

Graph (Click to show)

 

 

post #14700 of 37330
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Not sure why anyone would need to spend more for headphone "console" gaming.

 

Are you suggesting you should pay that much for PC gaming headphones over console gaming? Plus he said he will also be using these for music.

 

I'd suggest the HD800s if you really want to go for a flagship. Some people find it bright, though.

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