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Lol, I dont mean to be so enthused, but I've been wanting to try Electrostats since I first heard about the 007. The 407 literally just blew my mind. It sounds like a stat Q701, with less of a midbass hump (more linear) and infinitely more refined upper range. Not certain on soundstage yet though.

Im possibly getting a Koss ESP950 to demo soon, and that is the cheapest point of entry in terms of buying new, though I think that getting the 323S amp will be better for me in the long run, as it's mostly universal for Stax, including working well for the Stax Omegas.
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Lol, I dont mean to be so enthused, but I've been wanting to try Electrostats since I first heard about the 007. The 407 literally just blew my mind. It sounds like a stat Q701, with less of a midbass hump (more linear) and infinitely more refined upper range. Not certain on soundstage yet though.

Im possibly getting a Koss ESP950 to demo soon, and that is the cheapest point of entry in terms of buying new, though I think that getting the 323S amp will be better for me in the long run, as it's mostly universal for Stax, including working well for the Stax Omegas.

Soundstage depends a lot on your source. On my lowly backup dac, the 507 stage collapse, and practically sounds like a LCD2 in term of size (no offense =p). Thing pretty much changes 180 degrees when I plug them in my megabuck dac though. Still I mostly play BF3 on my He-6 rig lol.

 

Still they (the lambdas 307, 407, 507) have kind of a special way of soundstaging. It's not vastly wide like the 800 or the 701; nor high/deep like again the 800 and to some lesser extend the lcd3. Despite that, the lambdas do layering/positioning really well. 

 

If you like the LCD2, chances are you will like the 950. The lambdas sound sig is similar to the 880/800/701; while the 950 is closer to the hd600/650/lcd2.

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If I manage to sell the LCD2 and Compass 2 (could deal with just getting an ODAC/Modi as a source for now), that will give me around $1200. That is enough for a 323S, and whatever 'Stat I decide to go for. Not to mention the $300 I'll get back for the Momentum.
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If I manage to sell the LCD2 and Compass 2 (could deal with just getting an ODAC/Modi as a source for now), that will give me around $1200. That is enough for a 323S, and whatever 'Stat I decide to go for. Not to mention the $300 I'll get back for the Momentum.

So are you going to use the Stax for gaming and music listening? That's a decent amount of money for a electrostatic headphone & electrostatic amp combo.

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Yes. Im looking at end game rig for now. I mean as in shifting to a purely electrostatic home setup, and hopefully moving to like an Omega 007 Mk1 as pure endgame (assuming I can find/afford it).
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Yes. Im looking at end game rig for now. I mean as in shifting to a purely electrostatic home setup, and hopefully moving to like an Omega 007 Mk1 as pure endgame (assuming I can find/afford it).

The hard part with the Omega is actually finding a KGHVSS or a KGSS; or someone to build it for you; or building it yourself. Or just move to speakers tongue_smile.gif 

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It still seemed to me that my SR-Lambda spanked the AD700 in soundstage, of all things...but again, I've never heard the HD800, the supposed end-all be-all of headphone soundstage. I'm guessing that's your end-game model right there?

 

HD800 could very well be could end-game for me.  It won't happen anytime soon though.

 

 

It's a shame about the Stax fit.  We all know it doesn't matter how good a headphone sounds if the fit is bad.

Luckily I got to try placing several flagship dynamics on my head, and the fit for most of them was extremely comfy, HD800 included.

 

 

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I think you like the LCD2, but I think it's on it's way out the door to make budget for a Stax setup wink.gif That said... you do strike me as valuing "fun" over "neutral rightness," in the long run a slightly colored headphone will probably be your preference.

 

Yeah, I'd think he'd be saving over for some TH900 or something.

 

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Lol, sounds like you're already making a plan.

The Momentum might be more than a looker, but I doubt it's what you really want... Unless you can take the laptop to your security job and watch movies or game in the dull night hours?

 

MLE has simple technique for deciding whether or not to buy a headphone.  He just asks himself "Can I buy it??" and if the answer is yes, then he buys.  tongue_smile.gif

 

 

But seriously, there's nothing wrong with selling a headphone to try out another one.  I think it's a little quick to sell everything and go after a Stax setup though.

I wouldn't picture that as MLE's end-game setup.  I think he would value the thicker, punchier, and funnier wink.gif sound of dynamics over the flatter clearer drivers.  I think I would.

 

 

I stopped trying to make logical sense out of MLE's headphone purchasing path a while ago though, so I'll just let him do his thing.

  deadhorse.gif

 

 

Personally, I would still cancel the Momentum though for the reasons I listed earlier.  I'd just rather put that $300 towards the headphone I will actually use most of the time, and not one I would use occassionally on the side.  I'd just use CALs or something for that type of use.


Edited by chicolom - 4/19/13 at 10:30pm
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Khaine, I wouldnt be able to afford those amps. Ive read, and it seeks like the 323S is fine even for the Omegas. Sure, its not the Blue Hawaii, but it will do for me. I'll remain blissfully ignorant, and less broke, lol. That, and I only go for pure SS amping. No tubes, ever.

I want the Omega 007 Mk. I for its bassy signature. This is probably the best 'stat for me. Its basically the closest thing to a basshead 'stat.
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Or his wallet.
True story.
The first hit's always free... Oh, hey, I got something new here that'll change your life, and a bargain at only $2,500. Of course, if you were saving your first born child for something special...

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Yes. Im looking at end game rig for now. I mean as in shifting to a purely electrostatic home setup, and hopefully moving to like an Omega 007 Mk1 as pure endgame (assuming I can find/afford it).
Mad, you've found your next endgame headphone the entire time I've known you smily_headphones1.gif Luv ya tho, man wink.gif I just think it would be awesome (and synergistic) if you could make a career out of your love for gear. Gear --> career, hahaha! It's not about the destination, it's about the journey, right? Good Luck, seriously!

Oh, and I just can't wait to see Nameless' reaction to your enthusiasm for his babies biggrin.gif
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Heheheh, Chico you cheeky b@574rd ;P
Edited by Evshrug - 4/19/13 at 10:50pm
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Mad, you've found your next endgame headphone the entire time I've known you smily_headphones1.gif Luv ya tho, man wink.gif

 

x2

 

If I had a dollar for every time MLE has said "this will be end-game," I'd own all the flagships by now.  biggrin.gif


Edited by chicolom - 4/19/13 at 10:50pm
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I won't be able to hear the MK1 until this Christmas at least. The Mk1 I think, is linear neutral; it's actually the mk2/mk2.5 that got a mid bass hump. And the 950 is the basshead Stax can. The koss doesn't extend as deep as the lambda (which also isn't that deep); but it has more bass impact than the Stax equivalent.

 

According to the friend, the 007 is sort of meh without the KGSS/KGHVSS - like it literally transform once his KGSS was completed. I think now he's commissioning someone to build a KGHVSS for both the 007mk1 and his 009. A KGSS is around 2k - much cheaper than the bhse or ll; I think once you got bit by the 007 - soon you'll find a way to acquire the kgss bigsmile_face.gif.

 

Myself, I will probably get a 009+bhse; but that must be after I have finished my speaker system. Right now I'm content, the weighty sound of dynamic (he6) and the ethereal sound of stax. As good as Stax is; I think if you got the space, go for speakers instead. Planar and electrostat speaker sound mighty fine too and really cheap to boost. Mini maggies are around 1.5k per pair used I think?


Edited by khaine1711 - 4/19/13 at 10:58pm
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x2

If I had a dollar for every time MLE has said "this will be end-game," I'd own all the flagships by now.  biggrin.gif

True, but I'm actually approaching legit endgame headphones! Whats next after the Omega Stax? Orpheus? Lol, not in my lifetime.
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I won't be able to hear the MK1 until this Christmas at least. The Mk1 I think, is linear neutral; it's actually the mk2/mk2.5 that got a mid bass hump. And the 950 is the basshead Stax can. The koss doesn't extend as deep as the lambda (which also isn't that deep); but it has more bass impact than the Stax equivalent.

According to the friend, the 007 is sort of meh without the KGSS/KGHVSS - like it literally transform once his KGSS was completed. I think now he's commissioning someone to build a KGHVSS for both the 007mk1 and his 009. A KGSS is around 2k - much cheaper than the bhse or ll; I think once you got bit by the 007 - soon you'll find a way to acquire the kgss bigsmile_face.gif
.

Myself, I will probably get a 009+bhse; but that must be after I have finished my speaker system. Right now I'm content, the weighty sound of dynamic (he6) and the ethereal sound of stax. As good as Stax is; I think if you got the space, go for speakers instead. Planar and electrostat speaker sound mighty fine too and really cheap to boost. Mini maggies are around 1.5k per pair used I think?

Definitely not speaker worthy... apartments, and loudness restrictions. These walls are paper thin.

Ive read about the 323s and 007s pairings, and people are pleased.

As for the bassy Stax, on Innerfidelity as well as here, its the 007 Mk 1 that is the bassy one... just from what im reading.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/19/13 at 11:41pm
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Much as I like mountains, summit-Fi is overkill for gaming. Honestly, I think we're talking about something else besides headphones for gaming once the headphone alone costs over $350. What is the purpose fulfilled by the headphones and speakers we're talking about now?

Btw, that huge flagship review opined that the Orpheus wasn't as breathtaking as the cheaper, modern successor, right? wink.gif
Edited by Evshrug - 4/19/13 at 11:23pm
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Well, its not just for gaming. I could've ended at the 990s if it was just for gaming. Or better, the Annies.
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