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By the way, I know I asked before, but what was your reason for selling the DT990s again?

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Oh, the mids on the DT990 are DEFINITELY not on par with the D7000. What I meant was that the bass on the DT990 gets in the way less than that on the D7000, so it evens out. That and the open design on the DT990 make it better for gaming and sound whoring for me. The DT880 is even better than the DT990 for all around gaming due to even better mids, but the rear positioning just left something to be desired. Not an issue for those gaming in normal stereo.

the reason I sold my DT990 was because I fell in love with the D7000. I was gonna keep both the DT990 and D7000, but seeing as the D7000 did music and movies better, I decided to sell the DT990 and get an open can that does competitive gaming better, which is why I went with the HD598 and ultimately the PC360. (went with the PC360 for the practicality even if it was inferior to the HD598).
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/30/11 at 1:31am
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The Zalman clip on is absolutely fine.

To be honest, no headphone will ever turn a bad player into a good one. I wouldn't ever choose the improved soundstage of the 700 over a HD595/598.

You will not perform any better from a competitive point of view with the 700 than with the 59X. You will have a less enjoyable sound, however.

That being said, great guide!

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The Zalman clip on is absolutely fine.

To be honest, no headphone will ever turn a bad player into a good one. I wouldn't ever choose the improved soundstage of the 700 over a HD595/598.

You will not perform any better from a competitive point of view with the 700 than with the 59X. You will have a less enjoyable sound, however.

That being said, great guide!


For every satisified Zalman owner, there are 10 who absolutely despise it. Lol. biggrin.gif

That thing was so bad for me.... $30 down the drain.

Dealextreme clip on, ftw. smily_headphones1.gif
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Oh, the mids on the DT990 are DEFINITELY not on par with the D7000. What I meant was that the bass on the DT990 gets in the way less than that on the D7000, so it evens out. That and the open design on the DT990 make it better for gaming and sound whoring for me. The DT880 is even better than the DT990 for all around gaming due to even better mids, but the rear positioning just left something to be desired. Not an issue for those gaming in normal stereo.

the reason I sold my DT990 was because I fell in love with the D7000. I was gonna keep both the DT990 and D7000, but seeing as the D7000 did music and movies better, I decided to sell the DT990 and get an open can that does competitive gaming better, which is why I went with the HD598 and ultimately the PC360. (went with the PC360 for the practicality even if it was inferior to the HD598).


What did the D7k do better for your music? I still miss the soundstage+supertight but impactful bass of the 990 even when donning the 7ks.

 

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The sound signature of the D7000 just blew me away even when directly comparing it to the DT990. The DT990 still does have the better bass for me overall, but the room filling sub bass that the D7000 was intoxicating in it's own way. The mids and highs on the D7000 were on a whole other level for me too. The treble on the DT990 was a love/hate affair, while the D7000 was just outright perfect for me, aside from it being a closed design.
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The sound signature of the D7000 just blew me away even when directly comparing it to the DT990. The DT990 still does have the better bass for me overall, but the room filling sub bass that the D7000 was intoxicating in it's own way. The mids and highs on the D7000 were on a whole other level for me too. The treble on the DT990 was a love/hate affair, while the D7000 was just outright perfect for me, aside from it being a closed design.

 

Yea the decision for you is simpler since you don't need the open can soundstage in your music, just games. If you still had the money though, would you go for the D7000+HD598/360 or some other combo?
 

 

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D7000 + HE-4

The HE4 thoroughly spanks the DT880/990/K70x/HD598 and anything in that range. Think of them as a Super DT880/990 with bass close to the DT990 and everything else that's to die for. Mids aren't forward like the HD598 and K70x, but they certainly are more refined. A headphone you'd need to hear for yourself, though I guess with you owning the T1, you'd probably find them to be similar, though without the obvious price difference implications.

Oh and yes, I'd keep the PC360 as my gaming can, no matter what.

So actually now that I'm trimming down on what I have/will have, I'd keep it as PC360 + probably the D7000, and that's it. The KSC75 is a no brainer. Those are forever mine.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/30/11 at 2:04am
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D7000 + HE-4

The HE4 thoroughly spanks the DT880/990/K70x/HD598 and anything in that range. Think of them as a Super DT880/990 with bass close to the DT990 and everything else that's to die for. Mids aren't forward like the HD598 and K70x, but they certainly are more refined. A headphone you'd need to hear for yourself, though I guess with you owning the T1, you'd probably find them to be similar, though without the obvious price difference implications.

Oh and yes, I'd keep the PC360 as my gaming can, no matter what.

So actually now that I'm trimming down on what I have/will have, I'd keep it as PC360 + probably the D7000, and that's it. The KSC75 is a no brainer. Those are forever mine.


The T1 definitely doesn't have bass quantity anywhere near the 990. That's my biggest issue with it.

 

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Hmm, so perhaps the HE4 would suit you. It's been awhile, but I'd say the HE4 has about 85-90% the bass of the DT990, if made up numbers mean anything...
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Thanks for the input guys, if I had plenty of monies I'd just buy the AD700 and HD598 then sell the worst one. Alas I do not.

 

I don't need a can for fun/immersive gaming, I've got 2 bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer for singleplayer games/explosions.

 

I just need the ability to soundwhore in CSS to help balance out my **** aim. biggrin.gif

 

 

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Both would do that quite well. Just prepare for explosions and the like to sound like a can rattling if you go with the AD700. The bass frankly just doesn't exist.

Also keep in mind that I base all my impressions on the headphones with Dolby headphone (through my Mixamp) and nothing else. I rely on it like air, so if you're not using DH, YMMV big time. Heard plenty of people greatly prefer DH over CMSS and other virtual surround DSPs.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/30/11 at 2:28am
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I've always used DH, previously through a Xonar DX and now through an Essence STX.

 

I've found the HD598 for £145 which seems like the best price out there. The AD700 can be had for £100 though. Hmmm decisions!

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Haha shamrock, sir, you've got gear like the D7k, Ed 8, ACS T1, and you're considering saving £45 between the HD598 and AD700?
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Yeah. that's odd. XD

I find the HD598 to be a LOT more comfy as well. The AD700 has a polarizing fit. Some love it. some hate it. It certainly feels like you're wearing nothing, but it's also so loose fitting that it can be like a balancing act trying to keep it from moving out of the optimal ear positioning, which I hated. The HD598 uses a more stable headband mechanism... both have super soft velour pads. I take comfort as #1 priority so I had to comment on that as well.

In any case, for raw competitive performance, the AD700 will fit the bill for the price. It's that simple. I just think think the HD598 does more things better overall.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/30/11 at 3:22am
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