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I cannot say for the A900, as I haven't heard them unamped, nor that they have impressed me. IMO the DT880 sounds quite a bit better. But the top end Audio Technica full-size sounds quite different amped and unamped, they need a current amplifier not a voltage amplifier.

RTS's audio cue is important, sometimes you just busy with sometime direction of enemy fire being heard is useful, even more so in more realistic RTS where a wrong move can easily lose a valuable unit. It is not as important as it is in FPS, but it does help, however the most important part is how immersive the gameplay can be with decent audio.
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Don't feel bad. That's a big reason why I got the HE4.
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Don't feel bad. That's a big reason why I got the HE4.


Speaking of that, I think you would *really* like the HE-500, although I understand if you don't want to spend that much on top of your D7000 and HE-4. But man, it seems like it melds the HE-4 with a D2000 / HD650. The sound signature has so much more meat to it, and is a lot more full. Bass has been brought up a notch as well, as a result, probably the most perfect and balanced sound I've ever heard.

 

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I tried my Superlux HD-668B out with gaming last night. Pretty terrible. I don't understand how people can say these are balanced! Yeah, maybe if you consider the DT-990 to have a balanced sound! To me, these headphones are all treble and bass. The mids seem to like to hide somewhere. Footsteps? Forget it. They're so hard to hear and when you hit something with a sledgehammer the sound feels as if it's covered up by a blanket. I wish I was kidding. The detail is there, but it's just hard to hear. The mids are just so recessed. I'm not a fan of this headphone at all. I love my mids and this headphone doesn't have good mids. The soundstage was only comparable to a K240 Studio. If you want a better alternative to the 668B spend a little more and use the those instead. Maybe the Superlux clone of it is better? Probably so.

 

I then tried the KRK KNS-6400. Despite being closed, it was far, far better. Balanced sound and the mids are it's main focus. Tons of detail and everything is so easy to hear. The soundstage is actually quite good for being closed and feels better than the 8400. I'd take this over the HD-668B any day.

 

I do find my Koss Pro DJ 100 to be even better. The mids are quite a bit more forward and seems to have the same amount of detail of the KRK KNS-6400. It just has a lot more bass and less treble. The soundstage is also much larger, but the sound probably isn't as clear as the KRK. DJ100 might be a more fatiguing.

 

Of course I still prefer the K601, but the KRK KNS-6400 ($99) is a nice option. It's actually not that much worse than the $150 KRK KNS-8400. Both are studio monitors that don't have tons of bass, but have good mids and treble and a very clear sound. Perfect for competitive gaming where you don't need or want a lot of bass and a closed headphone is required.

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I think it's because it's been brought up countless of times by now head-fi are dominated by "trebleheads" that ofc find what they think sound optimal is neutral because many people got it in their head that neutral is the ideal when it probably isn't (being unaware of it and they want a little more/less highs or bass than a perfect flat response for example) and assumes the slightly non-flat response flat because it sounds so good to them. :P

 

Would be very interesting to know what's the AVERAGE IDEAL frequency response (as in what the person subjectively finds optimal sounding) for the human ear/brain, I don't think that would be quite flat, probably gently V-shaped.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 5/25/11 at 9:25am
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For anyone who is curious, the Tesla T1's are the best gaming headphone ever. If you happen to have the money, go for it.

LOL, I sure would hope so for the price you are gonna pay.
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I tried my Superlux HD-668B out with gaming last night. Pretty terrible. I don't understand how people can say these are balanced! Yeah, maybe if you consider the DT-990 to have a balanced sound! To me, these headphones are all treble and bass. The mids seem to like to hide somewhere. Footsteps? Forget it. They're so hard to hear and when you hit something with a sledgehammer the sound feels as if it's covered up by a blanket. I wish I was kidding. The detail is there, but it's just hard to hear. The mids are just so recessed. I'm not a fan of this headphone at all. I love my mids and this headphone doesn't have good mids. The soundstage was only comparable to a K240 Studio. If you want a better alternative to the 668B spend a little more and use the those instead. Maybe the Superlux clone of it is better? Probably so.

 

I then tried the KRK KNS-6400. Despite being closed, it was far, far better. Balanced sound and the mids are it's main focus. Tons of detail and everything is so easy to hear. The soundstage is actually quite good for being closed and feels better than the 8400. I'd take this over the HD-668B any day.

 

I do find my Koss Pro DJ 100 to be even better. The mids are quite a bit more forward and seems to have the same amount of detail of the KRK KNS-6400. It just has a lot more bass and less treble. The soundstage is also much larger, but the sound probably isn't as clear as the KRK. DJ100 might be a more fatiguing.

 

Of course I still prefer the K601, but the KRK KNS-6400 ($99) is a nice option. It's actually not that much worse than the $150 KRK KNS-8400. Both are studio monitors that don't have tons of bass, but have good mids and treble and a very clear sound. Perfect for competitive gaming where you don't need or want a lot of bass and a closed headphone is required.


 

Thanks for that superlux 668B review.  My curiosity in them has been un-piqued basshead.gif

 

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For anyone who is curious, the Tesla T1's are the best gaming headphone ever. If you happen to have the money, go for it.

 




LOL, I sure would hope so for the price you are gonna pay.

 

Wow, relax. Did I pinch a nerve because I said I prefer the T1's over the D7000s in that other thread? Sorry big guy.

 


Edited by Alghazanth - 5/25/11 at 4:01pm
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To my ears, the hiss in the DSS is 100% from the amp section, and doesn't vary at all with the volume knob. 

 

And someone asked about A900's for gaming?  I don't have much experience with them out off my DSS, but using CMSS it was hard to tell whether a sound was coming from in front of me or behind me.  When I get back home at the end of the week I'll try firing them up with my DSS and I should be able to give you a better answer. 

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I bought some LCD-2's off Head-Fi to try out, I'm actually really curious how they're going to sound for gaming. Could be amazing or absolutely awful, I have no idea blink.gif

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Wow, relax. Did I pinch a nerve because I said I prefer the T1's over the D7000s in that other thread? Sorry big guy.

 


LOL, I have no problem with you or your opinion but it seemed a little outta place in a dedicated D7K thread.

Its all good.
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I bought some LCD-2's off Head-Fi to try out, I'm actually really curious how they're going to sound for gaming. Could be amazing or absolutely awful, I have no idea blink.gif

 

LCD-2 for gaming? That should be interesting! You'll have to report on your findings.
 

 

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I'm selling my HE4, Lyr, and D7000. Financial reasons. Looks like I'll be a PC360 and KSC75 guy for a while.
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LCD-2 for gaming? That should be interesting! You'll have to report on your findings.
 

 


Yea, definitely. In fact, I'll do a mega review of them+ all the cans you see in my profile here once I get the LCD-2s.

 

MLE, about the E7. I got it for the mixamp because of this thread http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/495341/fiio-e5-headphone-amplifier-with-the-astro-mixamp/15 I wanted to use the D7000s with my wireless mixamp and not get all the hiss. I can't use my E9 since it's on my computer desk and I have the wireless mixamp with me on the recliner when console gaming... unless the E9 can be plugged into the TX unit? Regardless, if that guy saw improvements with the E5, shouldn't I see SOMETHING with the E7? I mean, even a tiny boost in volume? They're only 25ohm headphones after all. I'm forced to resort to my AD700s or Turtle Beach PX5's for when I'm online gaming w/ a mic, which is 99% of the time now. There's just too much static when you mix game and voice up high (D7000) or one of them will simply be too quiet (All the beyerdynamics).

 

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I'm selling my HE4, Lyr, and D7000. Financial reasons. Looks like I'll be a PC360 and KSC75 guy for a while.


Oh no, I'm sorry. Would you consider getting the D2000 for your full sized headphone once things looked more stable?

 

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