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How is the noise floor on the mixamp?  The DSS has a pretty obvious noise floor.  



What headphones are you using with them?  Some headphones (high sensitivity + treble emphasis) will highlight noise more than others.

 

The Mixamp 5.8 is slightly quieter, but the wired mixamp is very quiet.  There's really no audible background noise with it.

 

If I'm actually playing a game, and not paused or loading, I don't take much issue with the noise.

post #1232 of 37451

Exactly. If you tried Grado's on them such as the SR-60i you would hear some static of hiss. Low sensitivity headphones like the K601 and K701/K702 won't have any noise at all.

 

Do not exclude your source from inducing noise as well. If using on the PC you may get some noise from the PSU on the PC. I have not run into this before as I have an aftermarket PSU on my PC but I suspect cheaper ones can do this.
 

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What headphones are you using with them?  Some headphones (high sensitivity + treble emphasis) will highlight noise more than others.

 

The Mixamp 5.8 is slightly quieter, but the wired mixamp is very quiet.  There's really no audible background noise with it.

 

If I'm actually playing a game, and not paused or loading, I don't take much issue with the noise.

post #1233 of 37451
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No, you will need an adapter.

OK, I just copped a pair of D7000's and I was gonna try them out with the mixamp.
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A simple 1/4" to 3.5mm plug or cable will work. I recommend a cable, as the inputs on the mixamps don't hold robust plugs too well.
post #1235 of 37451

I was actually asking about the noise floor to compare it to the DSS.  The DSS has a pretty prominent noise floor with ATH-AD700's

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I was actually asking about the noise floor to compare it to the DSS.  The DSS has a pretty prominent noise floor with ATH-AD700's



I know, I've tried them all with the AD700s.  The wired mixamp has the lowest noise floor.

 

Wired mixamp > Mixamp 5.8 > DSS

post #1237 of 37451
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Where does the AX720 go? Hisses more than the DSS or less? It's hissy, for sure.
post #1238 of 37451
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Where does the AX720 go? Hisses more than the DSS or less? It's hissy, for sure.


 

Not sure, I've never heard the AX720. How much more does it hiss than the Mixamp 5.8?

post #1239 of 37451
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Definitely more, but I wouldn't say it's a dealbreaker. Where the 5.8 hisses at loud volumes, the AX720 ALWAYS hisses. Though when you're busy playing, the hiss shouldn't be an issue unless you just wanna nitpick. Probably just a tad more than the 5.8's loudest.
post #1240 of 37451

I'm going to post a big review here later on all the headphones in my profile. For anyone who is curious, the Tesla T1's are the best gaming headphone ever. If you happen to have the money, go for it.

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Definitely more, but I wouldn't say it's a dealbreaker. Where the 5.8 hisses at loud volumes, the AX720 ALWAYS hisses. Though when you're busy playing, the hiss shouldn't be an issue unless you just wanna nitpick. Probably just a tad more than the 5.8's loudest.


 

Hmm.. that sounds like the AX720 might hiss more than the DSS. 

 

The Mixamp 5.8 actually hisses louder than the DSS when they both go past >60% volume and beyond.  The DSS never reaches 5.8 at loudest volume hiss, but it doesn't quite reach 5.8 at lowest volume hiss either. 

 

 

   Normal hiss on the DSS      =  Mixamp 5.8 master volume in between 12 and 1 o'clock --> i.e., when it just starts to hit the amplification hiss

   Maximum hiss on the DSS  =  Mixamp 5.8 master volume in between 1 and 2 o'clock

        - Those are with the Mixamp 5.8 set to 50/50 game voice balance ^.

        - The DSS maximum hiss is definitely less than anything past 2 o'clock on the 5.8 at 50/50 balance.

 

Makes me wonder if the DSS would be a better preamp than the 5.8 , since its quieter at its louder volumes near the line out levels.

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Why does the FiiO E7 do absolutely nothing for me? I've tried 10 different headphones, and the max volume/hiss is exactly the same as when plugged straight into my Mixamp 5.8. I'm plugging the included 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable into the E7 and into the mixamp, then the headphone itself into the E7. What's wrong here?

post #1243 of 37451
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Don't feel bad. The E7 has a very low decibel boost. I've been telling people for ages that the E5/E7 are NOT worthy as additional volume boosting for the Mixamps. You should use the E9 for that purpose, not the E7.
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Am I the only one that uses high-end Audio-Technicas to game or someone else out there does it too?

I found the W5000 have the best presentation of ambient sound, warzone rumbles, gunfire from distance sounds great. They are awesome for RTS gaming. The positioning is great on them too, but they seems to diffuse a bit compare to being a pin point source.

AD1000PRM is just too awesome for FPS, positioning is pin-point and sense of depth and distances is very noticeable. It is so noticeable that I can accurately shoot through walls with sound (got me banned from a few servers due to that). The low bass quantity is great for games with chaotic battlefield, like TF2 and such. Downside of this is that it does not sound as full as more bassy headphones.

My A2000X is still burning in, but so far it is very similar to the AD1000PRM in games, not sure will the sound changes further.
post #1245 of 37451
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Originally Posted by Ra97oR View Post

Am I the only one that uses high-end Audio-Technicas to game or someone else out there does it too?

I found the W5000 have the best presentation of ambient sound, warzone rumbles, gunfire from distance sounds great. They are awesome for RTS gaming. The positioning is great on them too, but they seems to diffuse a bit compare to being a pin point source.

AD1000PRM is just too awesome for FPS, positioning is pin-point and sense of depth and distances is very noticeable. It is so noticeable that I can accurately shoot through walls with sound (got me banned from a few servers due to that). The low bass quantity is great for games with chaotic battlefield, like TF2 and such. Downside of this is that it does not sound as full as more bassy headphones.

My A2000X is still burning in, but so far it is very similar to the AD1000PRM in games, not sure will the sound changes further.
 


FWIW, I very nearly got a A900 for gaming, but chose a DT880 because...I wanted something that required amping. Haha. Don't judge me, it was my first proper full-sized.

 

How critical are audio positioning cues for RTS? I would have thought that the mini map takes care of alerts.

 

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