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^Ah, didn't know that. I assumed tube amps tended to run on the warm side compared to SS amps.
Okay, so I played some CoD4 and MW2 with the K02 Annie today, both with and without attaching an external amp to the Mixamp.
Good news: The K702 sounds quite lovely off the Mixamp alone. Didn't have much time comparing with and without my external amp, but they sounded nice and full either way.
Soundstage is nice and big as I expected. Clarity was top notch, so I'm expecting them to be on par with the Q701's competitive score, and a higher fun score.
My Mixamp was basically at around 60%, which is right where it starts to show some hiss. I usually have the Mixamp at around 70% for my other cans, so it was surprising to see how easy it is for the Annie to get loud.
Due to it's fullness, I expect lack of driving force won't be as obvious as thinner sounding headphones like the old K701 and DT990, so these are probably gonna be quite enjoyable even off portable amps.

 

Glad you did both amp and amp-less, lol. More like great news! I expected the same. Glad to hear that about the clarity. Just awesome. Yeah, I'm glad to know it doesn't take as much force for the volume too. Man, they just keep on surprising me. What an excellent pair of cans.

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^Ah, didn't know that. I assumed tube amps tended to run on the warm side compared to SS amps.
Okay, so I played some CoD4 and MW2 with the K02 Annie today, both with and without attaching an external amp to the Mixamp.
Good news: The K702 sounds quite lovely off the Mixamp alone. Didn't have much time comparing with and without my external amp, but they sounded nice and full either way.
Soundstage is nice and big as I expected. Clarity was top notch, so I'm expecting them to be on par with the Q701's competitive score, and a higher fun score.
My Mixamp was basically at around 60%, which is right where it starts to show some hiss. I usually have the Mixamp at around 70% for my other cans, so it was surprising to see how easy it is for the Annie to get loud.
Due to it's fullness, I expect lack of driving force won't be as obvious as thinner sounding headphones like the old K701 and DT990, so these are probably gonna be quite enjoyable even off portable amps.

60%?? whoa lol

 

I game competitively at approx.30-40% volume on the mixamp and it gets plenty loud on the mmx 300's. You must like it REALLY loud. :O

 

must be a major ohm load difference on the annies vs the beyers.......


Edited by tmaxx123 - 1/4/13 at 7:25pm
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The headphones I use tend to need a lot more in the volume than 32ohm Beyers, though the Beyers are hard to drive properly.
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Thanks for answering my questions MLE. I figured it was going to come up eventually so I decided to get it over and done with ahead of others.

 

After talking it over with the SO I have decided I need to look at closed headphones. I spent about 4 hours today in Far Cry 3 with the HM5 CALs and I was blown away just how off the mixamp I felt so immersed in the world and directionality of the sounds. Plus I was able to block out the noise of the apartment.

 

I love my DT990s but the CALs are no slouch and hold there own to the point I think they feel like they reach deeper then the DT990pros.

 

Only thing I don't like is the HM5 pads are still pleather and they still get hot and eventually sweaty. 

 

So back to the drawing table to look at DT770s, Pro900 and ? Velour and closed just aren't sold together to often. Pros are out though other thing I don't want is another damn coiled cable.

post #10430 of 37298
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Yeah, slim pickings for closed velour cans. DT770 Pro 80 would be a slightly inferior alternative to the 990 Pros, but not far off from what you're used to from the 990s.

Can't remember if it was coiled though... I think it was. Look for some premium DT770s. If anything, the MMX300 isnt as expensive as they used to be, and has the built in mic.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/4/13 at 8:25pm
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Yeah, slim pickings for closed velour cans. DT770 Pro 80 would be a slightly inferior alternative to the 990 Pros, but not far off from what you're used to from the 990s.
Can't remember if it was coiled though... I think it was. Look for some premium DT770s. If anything, the MMX300 isnt as expensive as they used to be, and has the built in mic.

Pro900 vs DT770s any opinions there? Just curiosity really. TY for all your help. :)

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The Pro 900 is clearer, and it focuses on mid bass which hits hard as hell. The 770 Pro 80 is sub bass heavy, which is more rumble than actual impact. Both have pretty recessed mids, and sharp treble, though the 770s aren't as harsh.

The Pro 900 has this very artificial, metallic twinge to it I didn't particularly like. The 770s are amazing at positional cues. The Pro 900 positioning is great, but a lot more closed sounding.

I find both to be very comfy for closed cans.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/4/13 at 9:20pm
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The Pro 900 is clearer, and it focuses on mid bass which hits hard as hell. The 770 Pro 80 is sub bass heavy, which is more rumble than actual impact. Both have pretty recessed mids, and sharp treble, though the 770s aren't as harsh.
The Pro 900 has this very artificial, metallic twinge to it I didn't particularly like. The 770s are amazing at positional cues. The Pro 900 positioning is great, but a lot more closed sounding.
I find both to be very comfy for closed cans.

Hmm ok that is some excellent info. I was going to pull the trigger on the Pro900 cause it is 327 on amazon right now. 

Guess I am just itching to get something new. I have been ABing all night with music through the E9K/E17 and I keep putting the CALs back on due to the very slightly recessed mids of the DT990 vs the CALs while listening to some Jack Johnson. He some great guitar and kick drum bass in his music. So both headphones just sound so stellar. Thinking the Pro900 might be a nice addition.

 

What I would love to find the speaker like quality of HD598 (I know I won't find that in a closed headphone.) with more bass in another headphone. That is the wierdest most comfortable headphone I have ever heard. Except the low end being completely non existent IMO I didn't like that part. Or positional accuracy which I thought stunk personally.

post #10434 of 37298
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Sounds like you want the HE400. Seriously. That has the very meaning of speaker like sound, and the bass you want.

I honestly prefer the 990s to the Pro 900, so I'd steer you away from those.

I have to try the 598 again at some point as what I heard is different from what people tell me they sound like. I thought they were thin, too mid focused, and boring. While people agree they are mid focused, they say its a musical headphone and warm. I didnt get that at all.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/4/13 at 9:43pm
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I had a feeling you would say that. LOL 

 

What about outside isolation with them? I don't care about the people around me I am more concerned about hearing them? LOL If they like the DT990pros then I am in the same boat? Also I am sorry I am asking to many questions. I do really appreciate your advice.


Edited by Hailin - 1/4/13 at 9:52pm
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Oh yeah, forgot you wanted closed. The HE400 is the most open headphone I have ever heard. They leak in and out like crazy.
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Oh yeah, forgot you wanted closed. The HE400 is the most open headphone I have ever heard. They leak in and out like crazy.

I figured. If I was going open I would be ordering the HE400 or Annies in a heartbeat!

post #10438 of 37298
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I would honestly love to own a really good pair of closed headphones, if they were velour padded. The Pro900 is as good as it gets in that regard, and I dont even like them that much, so im out of luck.

I would say the T70, but I hear they are worse than the 770/600 which aren't even around anymore.
post #10439 of 37298
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I would honestly love to own a really good pair of closed headphones, if they were velour padded. The Pro900 is as good as it gets in that regard, and I dont even like them that much, so im out of luck.
I would say the T70, but I hear they are worse than the 770/600 which aren't even around anymore.

 

Same, but maybe go for an IEM then?

post #10440 of 37298
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I hate IEMs. They hurt my ears, have horrible soundstage next to full size, and can get tangled, etc.

Honestly, I'd look into the MMX300. Basically a DT770 with a mic. Hard to beat that, though bass may not be powerful.
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