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post #1006 of 37400

Anyone tried the Sony SA5000 for gaming? bigsmile_face.gif

 

I've always heard they have some similarities to the K702 and it's one headphone that's interested me lately.

Of course I wouldn't buy it for gaming of course..

 

It's probably too bright for me and I don't have a tube amp. I believe I read that's what it likes.

 

post #1007 of 37400
The SA5000s aren't that bright, at least if you don't crank them to try and hear some low bass which they are never going to have anyway. I found them to be significantly less bright than the Beyer 880s or 990s. There's more energy to the treble than the midrange and they have just about no deep bass at all, but even someone like me who's practically allergic to treble didn't find them grating or objectionable like I did with the 880s and 990s. If you stick to genres that don't have much in the way of deep bass you won't find them to be missing much.

I haven't had a lot of 'phones know for their soundstage though, so I can't to many useful comparisons. IIRC the soundstage was quite a bit larger then my HD650's with more precise imaging as well. I didn't get to keep them long though. The cable was busted somewhere and cut in and out and because I bought them open box I couldn't get an exchange for a new one so I just returned them.

I rarely play FPSs and I never tried them with the HRTFs I use for movies because they didn't have enough bass to sound remotely convincing when stuff goes BOOM!, so I've got no insight on how they might work with DH.
post #1008 of 37400

the denon is outside my price rance

i can only spend around 100-150

is ad700 best in that range? i play fps and rgps (dragon age, mass effect)

post #1009 of 37400
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Originally Posted by Foresight View Post

the denon is outside my price rance

i can only spend around 100-150

is ad700 best in that range? i play fps and rgps (dragon age, mass effect)



DT770/80. I'm selling mine for $130 obo. Incredible condition. Ask MLE, they're incredible for that type of gaming.

post #1010 of 37400
The DT770 Pro 80s are plenty good for that sort of thing. The upper mids were to recessed for a lot of the music I listen to but the isolation and the bass will put you right in the action. I don't game as much as I used to, but they were great for movies. I sold mine because my HD650s were better for that despite being open. I'm unaware of anything as good as the DT770s at immersion for less money.

$130 may be a little high though. I wish I actually got that much when I sold mine...
post #1011 of 37400

Yeah. Reason they're sitting at $130 is because of the current new listing price. It's sat at about $170, and I figure listing $130 OBO is a good call. I don't ever start off low and work my way up. If someone is serious about them though, they'll make me an offer. 

post #1012 of 37400
Just wondering when using the fiio e9 with the mixamp, what's the correct way to have the volume dials set? Mixamp on low and then adjust the volume just with the e9? Or mixamp maxed out and e9 low? I guessing it's better to have the mixamp on low volume to keep maximum clarity in the sound quality or doesn't the fiio outputting the sound degrade it?
Thanks in advance for your help
post #1013 of 37400
Thread Starter 
$130 for a DT770 Pro is a solid deal. Nothing will come close to it for immersive gaming until you start hitting over $200.

As for Mixamp/E9, set thewired Mixamp to the highest possible volume, and control the volume with the E9.

With the 5.8, that will may add quite a bit of hiss, so I suggest lowering it to the point where hiss is as low as you want it. If you set the Mixamp too low, you'll lose a lot of dynamics, since the E9 won't have much information to amplify. So the higher the Mixamp volume, the better for the E9. Still, hiss is the one thing you have to be aware of.
post #1014 of 37400
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

$130 for a DT770 Pro is a solid deal. Nothing will come close to it for immersive gaming until you start hitting over $200.

As for Mixamp/E9, set thewired Mixamp to the highest possible volume, and control the volume with the E9.

With the 5.8, that will may add quite a bit of hiss, so I suggest lowering it to the point where hiss is as low as you want it. If you set the Mixamp too low, you'll lose a lot of dynamics, since the E9 won't have much information to amplify. So the higher the Mixamp volume, the better for the E9. Still, hiss is the one thing you have to be aware of.

K thanks, will there be hiss with wired mixamp at full volume and e9 at say half volume?

Also will there be a jump in sound quality once I get the e9 powering the dt 990 through the mixamp?

Want to get one so bad but my ad 900s still havnt sold yet
post #1015 of 37400
MLE,

How does the Mixamp compare to the Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS? It is quite a bit cheaper than the Astro.
post #1016 of 37400

man finding a used pair of the dt990 600 ohm is so hard all the sudden. when i wasnt sure if i wanted them like 6 of them passed for 220. The only other 220 i saw i was second to ask for it and got sold :(


 

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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post

MLE,

How does the Mixamp compare to the Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS? It is quite a bit cheaper than the Astro.


If you read back 2-3 pages there should be some comparisons...(or search my post history)

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YOU LIED TO ME! ALL THOSE TIMES I SAID THAT I LOVED YOU! YOU LIED TO ME! YES I TRIED YES I TRIED! 

RETURN OF THE MACK

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^ to MLE

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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post

MLE,

How does the Mixamp compare to the Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS? It is quite a bit cheaper than the Astro.


The mixamp and DSS both use the same dolby chip, so they both yield same surround sound prowess.  However, the mixamp provides slightly more power to your headphone (70mw per channel at 32ohm compared to 40mw per channel at 32ohm for dss) and the main thing is that it has a higher signal to noise ratio.  You won't hear any static hiss at all on the mixamp until you turn the volume to about 60%, on the DSS, you hear static no matter the volume (it gets louder at the higher volumes too, just like the mixamp)  Honestly not the biggest of deals unless you listen to music through them.

 

As for their features, mixamp has the ability to mix game audio and chat audio on the fly, so that's very convenient for just headphones that aren't packaged as headsets that usually have their own chat volume control.  The DSS provides a hardware bass boost unlike the mixamp, and it's decently good.

post #1020 of 37400
Thread Starter 
Yeah, the DSS has an identical sound with the Mixamp, just a bit more hissy, and can't drive headphones as well as the Mixamp. The differences mainly lie in the build quality, inputs, and features. The wired Mixamp has everything you'll pretty much need, but for the cheap price, the DSS is a valid substitute if you don't need voice chat mixing (don't plan on using a mic).

I do think the AX720 is a better substitute, though as everything will be attached to one cable that goes to a set top box, as oppoosed to the DSS and wired mixamp where they have to be next to you at all times, meaning a long optical cable, usb cable. Just too messy for me.
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