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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

If you want less external equipment, then yes getting an internal soundcard is better. Otherwise, there's no benefit of getting something else, since all the grunt is being done by your own dac/amp.

Guess i'll just use the u3 then. I dont think i can hear much different from coax input 24/192 compared from usb 24/96.
I'm trying not to stretch my 1500usd budget, so any unnecessary items must go.
post #17912 of 29962

Hey Mad Lust!

First, thanks for the in-depth guide of this topic.

I'm very interested in buying a gaming headset (or w/ souncard) so my googling brought me here. Sad to say the choices of headphones/soundcard here are limited, not to mention my budget.

 

Anyway, I'm currently eyeing on the Siberia V2 analog + budget sound card (xonar d* series maybe). Is that combination good? Or do you got something else on your mind. My budget would be about less than $130 for a headphone + soundcard combo. I'd be very much happy if you'll help me out on this one.


Edited by aserate - 11/13/13 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

Speaking of Audio Technicas,

Can the U3 alone drive them sufficiently?

Namely the A900X [42 ohms, 101db/mw] and the W1000X [40 ohms, 100db/mw]?

Does the U3 work well with music [i.e. - is there something like a bypass function so it can play music in stereo]?

The Xonar U3 should be able to drive headphones up to 150-Ohm, so 40-Ohm and 42-Ohm should work, but the U3 is not something that will bring out a headphone's best.

I would think at least using a Schiit Magni or O2 amplifier plugged into the U3 would, would help audio quality.

Even better, a FiiO E17 or Audioengine D1 optical connected to the U3 would help audio quality.

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If I build a pc later early next year, are there any point for getting an internal soundcard if I already have the U3? Since for pc surround gaming, U3 is basically more than enough.

Maybe for music benefit, with coaxial/optical output (24/192) from the sound card, rather just from USB (24/96)


Get a Xonar DX or D1 sound card (used, $60) and a Schiit Magni, $99 or O2, $119, headphone amplifier.

As these head amps have an output impedance of less then 1-Ohm, they are a better option over internal sound card, as the lowest impedance possible (currently) for an sound card is 10-Ohms.

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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post


Guess I'll just use the u3 then. I don't think i can hear much different from coax input 24/192 compared from usb 24/96.
I'm trying not to stretch my 1500usd budget, so any unnecessary items must go.

The Creative Sound Blaster Z (SB1500), $100, comes with a way better DAC feature (CS4398) and a more powerful headphone amplifier, then the U3.

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Originally Posted by Fegefeuer View Post
 

Repost from Nameless PC Gaming Thread

 

 

 

PC True Audio, PS4 True Audio, Xbone's SHAPE similarly to use. Talk about REAL hardware accelerated audio explosion. The future can only be bright.

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/everything_you_wanted_know_about_amd%E2%80%99s_new_trueaudio_technology_2013

 

What is True Audio?

 

 
 

I think the next gen consoles have the cheaper wm8768 7.1 wolfson dacs http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/dacs/WM8768/‎


Edited by martin vegas - 11/13/13 at 1:04pm
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I think the next gen consoles have the cheaper wm8768 7.1 wolfson dacs http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/dacs/WM8768/‎

 

It's not bad though.

 

Still could be considered an entry level audiophile DAC :]

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 Some of these boards come with the same type of chips, but I am not 100% sure the exact boards..they don't say what chips they use!


Edited by martin vegas - 11/13/13 at 2:44pm
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U3 it is...

Anything partially dedicated >>> Realtek XXX :/

That is unusable for HPs... Yuck...

I'll get a cheapo Audio GD/Fiio/X Dac/amp unit down the line... again :P

The PX5 DSS is very good in that aspect for consoles :]

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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post

If I build a pc later early next year, are there any point for getting an internal soundcard if I already have the U3? Since for pc surround gaming, U3 is basically more than enough.
Maybe for music benefit, with coaxial/optical output (24/192) from the soundcard, rather just from USB (24/96)
Or... you could consider an AMD graphics card with the TrueAudio processing hardware built-in. Older games you'd probably still want something like the U3 to add 5.1 processing, but once the PS4 hits the scene and (hopefully) TrueAudio takes off, you wouldn't need a discreet sound processor.

TrueAudio probably should/will get it's own thread.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

The Creative Sound Blaster Z (SB1500), $100, comes with a way better DAC feature (CS4398) and a more powerful headphone amplifier, then the U3.
Just bought a Sound Blaster Z, today on Amazon they're selling the retail model with red EMI shield for $65 shipped!
post #17921 of 29962

Thanks for all the reply.

If I want to buy a soundcard, I just want to spend 50usd max. However, if its just benefit to gaming, then I just use the U3. If it also benefit to music, I will consider it.

I already got my own Amp/Dac, Aune X1 mk2.

No to Amd gpu, I got experience with amd notorious driver problem :( I will go with GTX 770

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Then the little cheapie "U3" or "X-Fi Go! Pro" are really the only options in your budget.
The SoundBlaster Omni looks like a cool external PC option too, also with optical output, but lacks console optical input.
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Then the little cheapie "U3" or "X-Fi Go! Pro" are really the only options in your budget.
The SoundBlaster Omni looks like a cool external PC option too, also with optical output, but lacks console optical input.


If I want sound card, I prefer internal...

Thanks for the recommendation.

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Many thanks for the reviews! This thread helped me out a great deal.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

The Creative Sound Blaster Z (SB1500), $100, comes with a way better DAC feature (CS4398) and a more powerful headphone amplifier, then the U3.

If you're gonna bypass the U3's dac and amp, it doesn't matter what is better, since all you're using the U3 for is to add Dolby Headphone to the digital signal. There is no DA conversion or amping in the mix. Pretty sure getting an external optical dac and amp will be much better than that Creative soundcard.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 11/13/13 at 8:25pm
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