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Can you help with which headphones to buy? <Sony X-Bass MDR-XB700> <Shure SRH750DJ>

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Hello. I'm new here obv. Was recently gurgling with the idea of splurging out and finally getting myself a pair of higher end headphones so as to experience "The Higher Quality of Life".

I know nothing about headphones, except that thay vary in size, looks and prices. And that they KICK ****IN ASS in terms of sound quality.

So with the pretty big amount of me searching around and browsing and reading within these past two days, these two kinda took to my liking:

 

Sony X-Bass MDR-XB700 

http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/8852179/Sony-X-Bass-MDR-XB700-Headphones/Product.html

 

Shure SRH750DJ

http://www.shure.co.uk/products/headphones/srh750dj

 

 

I'm not quite sure how they fare in the eyes of the true pros though.

Help us out if you can. =D

 

Also, i'm not heart set on only these two. I just want something amazing, if possible, within their price range. I guess i'm even willing to go up to £100 ($160).

 

I listen to literally everything in terms of music. But I wouldn't know what qualities to look for and what to dismiss in terms of headphones.

I'm a heavy fan of dubstep.So bass to me, would be a massive thumbs up.

What else? My use will be pretty normal. Will use them while i'm on my laptop at home, in the library, when travelling, when chilling, possibly when outside doin shit...etc.

 

Just for side reference, I reside in the UK.

So what do you guys recommend, may I be so rude to ask. =D

 

Thanks

post #2 of 17

Hope that was only a random place you picked and not where you concidered ordering the XB700 from as over here in Finland I could pick one up for as low as 65 EUR even. :p

 

Those two are probably good ones to start out with for a bass-lover. The XB700 has more slow/deep/rumbling bass focus of the two and the Shure 750DJ are more dynamic/punchy. I would also concider the littlebrother XB500 as it may or may not be better than XB700 depending on taste. IMO dubstep is the XB500's strongest genre, it's even a bit stronger basswise than XB700 as it delivers a lot more bass punch/impact as well, otherwise I would think the XB700 and Shure 750DJs to be probably quite similar except for the difference in the lows. XB500 would be something in-between those two basstype-wise with the greatest amount bass of the 3 altough it's very warm sounding and not optimally balanced unEQ'd (too much upper bass masking fine details in mids and too much held back highs). The XB700 and Shure 750DJs are slightly better balanced out of box but if you are able to EQ then XB500 wouldn't be a bad choice either for a bit less cost.

 

Ultrasone HFI-580 is another one to concider with a very similar price to the Shures. It's really hard to make the best recommendation out of these 4 for for some1 that are new to this, they'd probably all more than satisfy you but which would sound best to you is almost impossible for us to tell, only yourself by trying would be able to determine which has the sound signature you prefer most. We can only explain the differences of the headphones but you have to know how you prefer it to sound like.

 

EDIT: I read "in library", well then XB700 wouldn't be a good option IMO as it leaks quite a bit sound, Shure 750DJs wouldn't and neither Ultrasone HFI-580. Both aren't the most comfortable headphones around but shouldn't be that uncomfortable either, only the first few days it might be somewhat until the headband loosens up a bit.

 

So yea I'd say Shure 750DJ or Ultrasone HFI-580 for you (my pick had been Ultrasones as I think it's somewhat more easily driven based on what I've read about the Shures), both should be fairly similar and a lot more suitable for also portable use, whereas XB500/700 I'd strictly recommend for home use only.

post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks ever so much for your reply.

So detailed. A true professionalist. =D

 

I'm gonna keep my eyes open for another day I think, then order the one that I find wins my battle of choice.

It wouldn't hurt to hear more peoples opinions here too I guess. xP

 

I'm feelin pretty good about ordering a pair of headphones now. It's pretty exciting.

 

 

PS. Are any of the 4 headphones you mentioned in your post uncomfortable?

How would you rate the comfort of each pair?

 

 

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaank Youuuuuuuuuuuuuu = ) 

post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 

Right.

I'd like to place an order either today, or tommorrow.

 

Based on what i've been told, i've narrowed my selection to either the Shure 750DJ's or Ultrasone HFI-580's.

Anyone have a personal reccommendation between the two?

Or a different reccommended headset altogether?

Or experience in terms of usability of these headphones..

 

I'd like to know about the comfort of wearing either set.

I mean the XB700's look damnright comfy. I know they'll be lovely to have on, and will surround my ears fully. If you know what I mean.

Can't really tell with the look of the Shure's or Ultrasone's.

Would be nice to know.

I mean I sure as hell would like a comfy pair, enough to wear for long periods of time.

 

 

Unfortunately I checked the most likely stores in town to stock higher end headphones today. The selection was real crap. So I cannot actually test a pair of anything before buying. Haha, i'll have to trust you guys for that. ; )  

 

Thanks very much people.

Cannot wait to put an order through. gs1000.gif

post #5 of 17

Well I've read about complaints from a few users of both those headphones regarding comfort but not everyone. The Sony XB series I've read zero comfort complaints about except one guy complained about the "stitching" irritating his skin or something but that's about it. But the Sony XB series do leak quite a bit sound as it's not really closed but semi-closed due to having 3 bassports on the cups at the back beneath the headband and therefore the isolation is not very optimal either so that's why I would rather recommend the Ultrasone HFI-580 or Shure 750DJ if it won't be used at home only and besides the XB700 ARE HUUUGE, at least I wouldn't wanna carry around those, even XB500 looks quite a bit awkward already. :p

 

Between those two, well I've read LOTS of good things about both, rarely (if ever) any dissappointed users from a sound-quality point of view and they do seem to share a very similar sound signature so I'd ultimately just go for what I think looks better, IMO the Ultrasones look really beautiful and I'm sure many would agree if they saw them out in the public. :p

 

Here's also a frequency response graph, as you can see there's only a difference in the low-end but I wouldn't put too much faith into the graph that Shure 750DJs would be that much bassier as it's not quite the impression I've got at least and HFI-580 are already way above the bass quantity of the average headphone and also I think they are slightly less demanding to drive so if you won't use any amp I'd also lean slightly towards the Ultrasones. Also notice the Shures got coiled cable, which is not liked by every1 (incl me).

 

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post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 

Superb superb superb.

Thank you once again!!! =DD

 

Yeah. After a more careful look up, they both look just as comfy.

And theyre both pretty much just as sexy too. =D

 

Haha, I might end up flipping a coin to see which of the two I can get.

Or find the sweeter deal.

 

Thanks so much.

I'll top up my finances, and make the decision, and order tommorrow.

post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 

PS.. Just a consideration.

 

Would you reccommend getting the upgrade models of these sets of headphones, seeing as an upgrade is more likely to be higher quality.

Or is it an investment, not worthy of its price?

 

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks =)

post #8 of 17

Well in the Ultrasone setup, the HFI-580 is very aggressively priced IMO, even the HFI-780 doesn't sound better to every1, it depends on taste quite a bit. The Shure 750DJs are quite different to the other Shure headphones, the DJs are less flat/"analytical"/studio sound in favor for more "fun"/enjoyable listening experience compared to the quite popular SRH840 for example. Those two offer a very great bang-for-the-buck, that's for sure if you're looking for headphones that are meant for enjoyable listening experience.

post #9 of 17

I have no experience with the SRH750DJ's, but I have no problems with comfort wearing the HFI-580's.The cups are big enough to go around the ears and I wear them for hours at a time, both outdoors and at home.An additional plus is they are easy to drive, I can power them on my clip+ at around 50-60% output (-45 to -35 decibels). Now I dont have other headphones to compare it to, but I definitely dont regret buying the 580's as my first pair.

post #10 of 17

Haven't heard the 750s, but the XB have the deepest bass I ever heard. However, I recommend it for home use only, especially the 700s. The pads guarantee sweat when walking, and the design is actually slightly open instead of closed, so it leaks some sound, not too much.

post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 

Al-rightyo. Sweetness. =D

Thanks for your help guys.

 

The Ultrasones it is. beyersmile.png

 

Anyone know of any online retailer they'd reccommend in the UK.

I'll search around a bit more after my exam today, but at the moment it looks like my best choices are: 

http://www.iheadphones.co.uk/ultrasone-hfi-580.html

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ultrasone_hfi_580.htm

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ULTRASONE-HFI-580-Ultrasone-HFI-Headphones/dp/B00101UHS8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1295437253&sr=8-1

 

 

It's a bit of a ballache, considering I know that these headphones retail for tonnes less $$, in any place other than the UK..But oh well. xD

post #12 of 17


 

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Originally Posted by Kick2Kill View Post

Al-rightyo. Sweetness. =D

Thanks for your help guys.

 

The Ultrasones it is. beyersmile.png

 

Anyone know of any online retailer they'd reccommend in the UK.

I'll search around a bit more after my exam today, but at the moment it looks like my best choices are: 

http://www.iheadphones.co.uk/ultrasone-hfi-580.html

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ultrasone_hfi_580.htm

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ULTRASONE-HFI-580-Ultrasone-HFI-Headphones/dp/B00101UHS8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1295437253&sr=8-1

 

 

It's a bit of a ballache, considering I know that these headphones retail for tonnes less $$, in any place other than the UK..But oh well. xD


glad you came to a decision. i havnt heard the ultrasone's but i am very curious to how you find them. i have the shure srh750dj headphones and find them spectacular for the price. anyways i am wondering what your opinions on the comfort and sound quality is. then i can make a comparison to my shure srh750dj's. anyways either one of those to like rpg said is a very good choice. and i would have probably recomended the same headphones.beyersmile.png

post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

Oh wow.

Recieved my sexy @ss Ultrasones yesterday.

Opened them up today and gave em a twirl.

 

F*CK ME. HOLY LORD, THESE THINGS ARE POWERFUL!

I have them hooked up to my laptop right now, playing a hardcore tempo'd dubstep tune and it's immense. The bass is defo OUT THERE!

Check the track here, it's GOLD:

 

 

 

I'm diggin it. Theyre not distorting any of the other sounds at all. The quality is coming out crisp. Even for the 192 kbps mp3's.

These headphones can go LOUD too.

I tried putting itunes at full volume, but it hurt my ears toooo much. XD

 

I was meaning to ask about the whole "burn in" period thingy i've been hearing about.

So what's that all about?

Do I have to leave these headphones in use for 50-100 hours for them to reach full sound production?

Do educate me. =D

 

As for the comfort. It's the first day of em on, so they still need time to break in.

Theyre a bit --> (^__^) <--

So, yeah its a bit of discomfort with them pushing in to my head slightly. But my ears are comfortable inside the cups.

I could see myself having to take em off every 40 minutes or so, for my ears to feel comfortable again.

But yeah...I still cannot comment fully on comfort until they break in a bit more.

 

I was meaning to ask...

When I plugged em into my ipod nano and played music, it was lacking in volume.

Obviously I am not surprised. I mean they are pretty big hedphones. They'll need a lot of powerjuice to fuel em up, and the ipod nano battery won't suffice.

I have seen pretty detailed talk on amps and whatnot to help drive headsets.

Whats the dealio on them.

It'd definetely be worth me getting one, for transportable music use with my ipod nano. The volume needs to be louder for the music to be fully appreciated. ; D

 

Oh yeah.. They do look sexy, these headphones.

I can't wait to go out in public feeling like a badass wearing them. =D

Not to mention be living in a different reality to the average person, because of the level of music involvement i'll be in.

 

Talk about the music matrix! beyersmile.png

 

 

Thanks so much for the recommendations and help everyone. <3

post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 

And OMG they play sooooo much more amazingly than I thought with other genres.

Just some quick feedback from some on-the-spot listening.

 

Rock worked superb.

 

Metal worked fantastic, although after listening to some heavy bass songs (ie. dubstep, DnB) it felt like it kind of lacked a POWERPUNCH for metals' purpose.

 

Hip-Hop worked INCREDIBLE. Especially since most of it has a nice bassy backtrack. However, it seemed to lack a punch, if the song itself lacked a strong bass backtrack. No interference however with the rap itself and synths.

 

Dance/Techno worked BALLISTICALLY!

 

Electronic worked great.

 

Drum and Bass worked OMGWTF!

 

Pop worked good, although it felt a tad bit muffled at points. =P

 

DUBSTEP WORKED SUPER-FANTASTICALLY-MIND-BLOWINGLY AMAZING!

You get the picture. ; D

post #15 of 17

ive got a big issue with comfort so i reckon ill get the ultrasone's as well and maybe the XB500's or 700's later on if i have the money as a "giggle bass headphone"

my doctor recently said i cant use my in ear headphones because I got an ear and respiratory tract infection that lasted for months and i went deaf and dizzy etc. was horrible. anyway,

the Sennheiser CX300II's are up on the shelf, and my stanton DJ Pro 50's have a million mile long cable and a coke can length sized jack at the end that needs to be converted to 3.5mm making the jack itself twice the size of my media player. and as long as my android (but the sound quality on that thing is terrible)

all of this added to the fact that i get a really low output because these things seem to want  a LOT of drive (hence I just bought a Fiio E11, see if that makes a difference)

I'm buying either a sansa clip + or a Cowon J3 to replace my ancient ipod nano 8gb that was given to me because i want to have a hundred or so podcasts as well as my entire library.

 

I figure either the ultrasone or the shures but didnt like the look of the shures over all

 

So i reckon i'm going to buy ultrasones too after this thread!!! THANK YOU everyone who has posted for me

 

other reccomendations I had:

ath-m50

Sony MDR-V6,

Shure SRH440 

Sennheiser HD25-1 mk2,

VModa M80

 

 

although the sennheiser and vmoda (looked amazing) were out of my price range

 

my friend that led me to this forum also massively bitched out the Bose AE2's any thoughts people?

 

THANKS AGAIN


Edited by ceryni - 5/9/12 at 1:37pm
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