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post #511 of 662

I will start a thread comparing all four as soon as they have a decent burn-in and my homework loads lightens up. 

 

EDIT: I compared them here http://www.head-fi.org/t/625463/shootout-shure-srh840-vs-m-audio-q-40-vs-ultrasone-hfi-580-vs-akg-k240s#post_8662032

 

Summary:

 

The HFI-580s are not my cup of tea... Just too exaggerated.. I guess I like a flatter/studio sound. These have quite an erratic/unpredictable response to different genres and frequencies. Amazing bass, excellent build quality, but the agonizing spikes all over the frequency spectrum killed it for me.

 

The Q-40s had just as much bass as the 580s. The Q40 bass was more "thunderous" and the 580 bass was much cleaner/tighter. However the Q40s had far less fatiguing (although still not that great) mids and treble. 90% of the "bassfactor" of the HFIs with way less fatigue.

 

The K 240s have extremely lo-fi, muddy bass response straight out of the '70s and were a real let down in that area but they have very nice mid range and laid back treble and I like the overall design. Plus they were the cheapest phones in the test.

 

The SRH840s sounded and felt the most expensive and "won" the comparison. They are the only headphones out of this bunch I would want to use for mixing/recording. Occasionally harsh treble and boring looks, but really the only headphone that felt and sounded like its price tag and stayed consistent across every genre.

 

None of these are quite perfect for me and my search for the "ultimate" headphone continues.

 

Rankings (absolute):

1. SRH840

2. Q 40

3. K 240

4. hfi 580 

 

Rankings (relative to price/value):

1. SRH840

2. Tie: K 240 and Q 40

4. hfi 580 


Edited by machoboy - 9/3/12 at 3:49pm
post #512 of 662

Conclusion... Pretty glad I didn't jump straight into the pro 2900s

post #513 of 662

Sounds like you would have been a much better candidate for the 780s. I tried the 580s, and while I appreciated them for what they were with the V shaped frequency response, I decided the 780s might be a better fit for me. And they are. They have a much flatter response and a slightly more refined sound overall.  Don't know if they would have been better than the Shures for you, but I know they would have scored much higher in your review. 

post #514 of 662

@machoboy: Do you use them with EQ? That makes a big difference for me. Without it my 2900 is unbearable and I don't even like the 580. Your decision makes perfect sense though; Ultrasones are completely unnatural sounding and that definitely isn't for everyone. The 840 is a lot more natural, and if it's your favorite you may want to try the HM5 and see if the treble is more to your preference. Thanks for the impressions.

post #515 of 662

I'll admit I'm a bit curious as to the open backed Ultrasones.  Can't say the Pros factor into my plans, but teh HFI-2400 will likely become a good electronica at home can, while my 580 will likely be kept around for the occasional outdoor sojourn. 

post #516 of 662
Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaMushroom View Post

I'll admit I'm a bit curious as to the open backed Ultrasones.  Can't say the Pros factor into my plans, but teh HFI-2400 will likely become a good electronica at home can, while my 580 will likely be kept around for the occasional outdoor sojourn. 

the HFI-2200 were like chocolate magic. bassy and beautiful.

post #517 of 662

Anyone heard the Sol Republic Tracks (non-HD version)?

 

Found out my middle-school aged son just got his mom (he lives with her) to order him some Sol Republic Tracks. I was planning on giving him some 580s for his birthday in a month. I've heard the 580s but not the Sols. Am I right in guessing the 580s beat up the Sols when it comes to SQ?

 

If so, I'll tell him to send them back and hold off for a month.

post #518 of 662

these good enough for commuting?

post #519 of 662

also how do these compare to the Creative Aurvana Live in terms of sound signature, clarity, soundstage and isolation

 

:)

post #520 of 662

I just bought mine yesterday and they have about 50 hours of burn-in on them. I can't say I'm feeling blown away by the bass. Does the bass get bigger with burn-in?? I'm definitely liking the clarity of these though. I actually think they beat the 440's in clarity and separation. Still waiting for the treble to settle down a bit though.

post #521 of 662

Also, why do I feel like the CAL!'s have better bass than these things? Do they need to be amped for the bass to sound crazy good?

post #522 of 662

The bass response is different on the CALs vs the 580s. The CALs peak about 100hz with a gradual slope curve. The HFI-580s peak at about 50hz with a steeper curve. So the CALs are going to obviously emphasis the mid-bass more, and the HFI lower frequencies. So which is better really depends on your taste in bass response. 

 

And yes. You will need an amp to get the most out of them, and some players will do better than others with them without an amp. Plus, if you want more bass, bass boost from a headphone amp would help. 

post #523 of 662

I owned a hfi-450, jvc harx900, and now I own a third, AD700

post #524 of 662
Quote:
Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

The bass response is different on the CALs vs the 580s. The CALs peak about 100hz with a gradual slope curve. The HFI-580s peak at about 50hz with a steeper curve. So the CALs are going to obviously emphasis the mid-bass more, and the HFI lower frequencies. So which is better really depends on your taste in bass response. 

 

And yes. You will need an amp to get the most out of them, and some players will do better than others with them without an amp. Plus, if you want more bass, bass boost from a headphone amp would help. 

These are weird cans. I figured out I was wearing them wrong. I positioned them so they pressed on my ears a little bit more and now the bass is blowing me away. So I'm falling in love with them, I just have to make sure I keep putting them on the right way.

post #525 of 662
Quote:
Originally Posted by sacrifice13 View Post

These are weird cans. I figured out I was wearing them wrong. I positioned them so they pressed on my ears a little bit more and now the bass is blowing me away. So I'm falling in love with them, I just have to make sure I keep putting them on the right way.

 

OK. That make sense. I have the 780s which have less emphasis on bass in its response curve. But it still has more bass than my AD900Xs which have a V-shaped response.

Just something about the bass in a pair of Ultrasones  beerchug.gif

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