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post #496 of 667

40 hours of break-in, and I'm really loving these. Thought I'd share some thoughts for anyone else that comes along. I've listened to them some with two setups, no EQ:

 

(1) Clip+ with a mix of mostly FLACS and some high bit rate MP3s (generally v0 VBR or 320kbps)--no amp (have to get one)

(2) Secondary PC in the house where they have been breaking in with Asus Xonar D1 with mix of v0 VBR or 320kbps MP3s on Windows 7 with Media Monkey. 

 

 (I also have an Asus Xonar Essence STX on my primary PC that I'll use once they break in some more--save the best to last smile.gif )

 

The HFI 580 certainly do a little better with the Xonar D1, but the Clip+ was fine for general listening given its price. No complaints there. 

 

The strong point is obviously with EDM and other bass heavy music, which I listen to about half the time. No contest. The HFI 580s are great, an all around better headphone than my Sony MDR-V6s. When it comes to sub bass and mid-bass, the HFI-580s are like a good enthusiast level sub paired with mid level towers in a home audio setup; I know that they are hitting down pretty low (although I have not tried Bass I Love You yet). As others have pointed out, it's all there with a good tight sound with plenty of texture. For anyone who would consider themselves in the car audio subwoofer SQ group, the HFI 580 would be an excellent choice. Although I could see how those listeners that would belong in the car audio SPL subwoofer crowd might be disappointed. The bass seems to be running a little hot, but not massively enough for serious SPL bassheads. 

 

With other genres where there is any mid-bass or lower, the HFI 580 really does a nice job of foregrounding the bass for those that want that. For instance, last week I watched the Godfather. Since I occasionally get into a classical kick, I decided to listen to Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra Theme from the Godfather. The bass in that piece is so important for the tone, and the HFI 580 did a marvelous job of conveying the mood of the song.

 

I also noticed some comments on Amazon complaining a lot about sibiliance. There may be a little bit--I try to ignore it, because if you look for it, you'll start hearing it more if is there. But I think some of those comments were a result of one or more of the following three factors:

 

1) Not enough break-in. (I would imagine the highs will tame a touch more even than they have with more time). 

2) Revealing nature of the headphones. The treble does have some good clarity, and poorly recorded EDM and rock is going to reveal itself. At the same time, I'm also hearing detail that was not there before. 

3) The recessed mids, which stress the treble, particularly if listening to something that is bass light where the treble will call even more attention to itself.  


Edited by cel4145 - 8/23/12 at 8:13pm
post #497 of 667
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Originally Posted by machoboy View Post

I'm going to compare them side-by-side and keep the pair I prefer. Are they really very similar? I've heard they have similar bass but dramatically different treble.

 

I just remember spending long hours battling M-Audio's interface drivers, but since there's no software installed in this headphone I should be OK.

 

BTW, do you prefer your 850s or HM5s (in general)? I'm assuming you prefer both to the Q-40s if you don't own them?

 

I would say the HM5, but part of that decision is because they complement my PRO 2900 well, and because of the latter my HFI-580 doesn't see much use anymore. It's a hard decision to make, and it really comes down to sound sig preference, but from a totally objective viewpoint I think the HM5 has better sound quality. Everything is much more spaced out and you don't get the "closed" sound, despite it being a closed headphone. The sound is also clearer and much less fatiguing. The Ultrasone in comparison sounds congested and harsh (but never sibilant). I don't mean to make it sound bad, as it really excels with bass, funk, metal, and anything with a good rhythm. The HM5 just has a more pleasant sound overall. If you have the money I would recommend both (or at least one headphone of each type).

post #498 of 667

Thanks. I was very close to ordering the HM5 as a more conservative & accurate option to compare to the bassy 580s and Q-40, but they'll have to wait now since I just ordered the Shure SRH840s.

 

The HM5s and PRO 550 are definitely next on the list.

post #499 of 667

Have you considered getting a single high-end pair instead of 4 cheaper options? The PRO 2900 blows any of those away, except the HM5/SRH840 where it doesn't really compare.

post #500 of 667

I have, but coming off of a pair of $70 Sonys (beyond horrible) and $70 Grados (intriguing but not my thing), I don't think I know what I like enough to start looking at stuff in the price range of the PRO 2900s, D5000s, etc.

 

I'm definitely not keeping all of these $120-150 pairs. After I narrow it down to one I like then maybe I can affirmatively identify as a Shure/Beyer//Ultrasone/etc man and feel more sane laying down $500+ on a single "ultimate" headphone.


Edited by machoboy - 8/26/12 at 12:58am
post #501 of 667

That makes sense. Don't become too much of a one brand man though; not all headphones from a company sound the same, and variety is nice. wink.gif

 

BTW, the PRO 2900/900 is about $350, far from 500.

post #502 of 667

Im in doubt between the hfi 580 and the hfi 780...wich one is better???

 

What is the differences? 

 

Thanks

post #503 of 667
Are there any decent ear pad replacement options for the Hfi-580? I love the headphones to death but the pads are way uncomfortable
post #504 of 667
Quote:
Originally Posted by zevim2005 View Post

Im in doubt between the hfi 580 and the hfi 780...wich one is better???

 

What is the differences? 

 

Thanks

 

The 780 has stronger highs and better detail resolution, and the 580 has more bass.

 

 

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Originally Posted by PanamaHat View Post

Are there any decent ear pad replacement options for the Hfi-580? I love the headphones to death but the pads are way uncomfortable

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/313962-REG/Beyerdynamic_942704_Padded_Earcushions_for_DT250_DT280.html

post #505 of 667

I had just glanced at the 2900 prices and saw one place selling for $500. With the rave reviews they get I didn't question it.

 

I think I officially have an addiction though. I just ordered some AKG 240s too.

 

Come on they have gold circles on them. How can someone resist gold circles?

 

I guess I'm going to be around here for a long time......


Edited by machoboy - 8/26/12 at 12:30pm
post #506 of 667

So now the "shootout" will be Ultrasone HFI-580 vs Shure SRH840 vs AKG 240 vs M-audio Q-40

post #507 of 667

I wasn't a big fan of the K240 after I got my HFI-580. The lack of highs along with the sloppier bass made it sound muddy in comparison.

post #508 of 667

The K240s were ordered basically because:

- I think they're the coolest looking headphones of all time

- They were only $75 brand new with 2 day shipping on Amazon

- As an established "middle of the road" sound benchmark to contrast to the (allegedly) aggressive Ultrasones, dark M-audios and cold/analytical Shures.

 

Nearly half as much money as the others so not a very fair comparison but I still can't wait to see what everyone describes with all 4.

 

I checked Amazon and everything is scheduled to arrive on Monday so I'll do a day or two of burn in on every pair then shoot them out at the end of the week.


Edited by machoboy - 8/26/12 at 12:45pm
post #509 of 667

I currently have the HFI 550, not PRO, what are the diferences from the 580's, has anyone listened to both?

post #510 of 667
Quote:
Originally Posted by machoboy View Post

The K240s were ordered basically because:

- I think they're the coolest looking headphones of all time

- They were only $75 brand new with 2 day shipping on Amazon

- As an established "middle of the road" sound benchmark to contrast to the (allegedly) aggressive Ultrasones, dark M-audios and cold/analytical Shures.

 

Nearly half as much money as the others so not a very fair comparison but I still can't wait to see what everyone describes with all 4.

 

I checked Amazon and everything is scheduled to arrive on Monday so I'll do a day or two of burn in on every pair then shoot them out at the end of the week.

 

Sounds good. You should write at least a short review when you do that, I'm sure a ton of people would love to see a comparison between all 4.

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