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post #436 of 662

Thanks for the comparison with the DT770, now if i can just learn the difference between these and the Denon D2K.

post #437 of 662
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Originally Posted by Astrozombie View Post

Thanks for the comparison with the DT770, now if i can just learn the difference between these and the Denon D2K.



^ it's easy to learn the difference. you will feel good thinking you know the diff at first..but in the end, it's very hard to compare, bc you have to ask, what were they comparing it relativley to and all those other things. i want to personally test D2K's as well :'( but can't

post #438 of 662
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Originally Posted by Astrozombie View Post

Thanks for the comparison with the DT770, now if i can just learn the difference between these and the Denon D2K.



The Denon D2000s are another step up from the DJ1. Bass extension and impact are far superior with the Denons, as well as a step up in detail across the sound spectrum. Both are very fun sounding cans, however, the Denons really need some sort of amplification to really perform to their fullest. The DJ1 sounds excellent with just about any source and perhaps a touch of EQing. The Denons are also a lot more comfortable, but they're also much larger than the DJ1. Soundstage is a little wider sounding on the DJ1 due to the S-logic, but the Denons seem to present it a little more naturally, though smaller- then again, both are no match compared to that of an open-air set. Due to the amping requirements and size, my D2000s are generally confined to my listening rig, whereas my DJ1s are taken just about everywhere. I'll try to post some more detailed impressions once I have more time, but I hope this is a start.

post #439 of 662

Does anybody have pictures of the DJ1s they can post? There dont seem to be many around and the Amazon ones dont really give me a good idea of what they look like.

 

post #440 of 662
That is the first time i have heard of D2Ks needing legit amplification an needing to keep them at home.
post #441 of 662

I heard some people asking about similar sound quality in same price-range. I've had Bose IE2, Bose AE2, and the quiet comforts (XXX-299$). I've had the DT770s and ATH-MD50s. I recently just bought the PRO700MK2 (which I cannot convey ENOUGH how disappointing those are).

Even against all those sub 300$ headphones the HFI-580s are just mind blowing and I mean in every single comparable factor.
If there's anything unfavorable about the HFI-580s that you find you can EQ them and they adjust to any settings. 

VS the PRO700MK2: The pro700MK2 has very similar bass quantity out of the box, with slightly more lower bass. However I hope nobody on this forum is simply running headphones unamped or without EQing the bass a bit (for this type of headphone). The bass on the PRO700MK2 amp'd with even just the SLIGHTEST bass boost is just unacceptable in quality. It shakes the drivers and causes the other notes to just sound like muffled rubbish (Honestly take my word for it as it can save you a lot of money). I'm AMAZED at the favorable PRO700MK2 reviews I initially read (funny I saw the same reviewers later withdrawing and claiming they weren't as great as they initially thought...coulda saved me a lotta money :P )

The HFI-580 I have plugged into a stereo system with slight bass boost and EQ'd to my liking. First let me say that these headphones do ANYTHING you can possibly EQ with full quality throughout. With many other headphones I've had this is definitely not the case. Okay now for bass function (EQ'd and bass-boosted). I am not exaggerating you can have more bass quantity on these with amazing detail throughout the headphones than anything else I've owned.

The bass somehow doesn't disturb the driver making other frequencies. This I suppose is due to S-Logic and the open air-like nature of these closed back headphones. I can literally make the bass 2X the perceived level of the PRO700MK2's (which is a horrible way to listen to music however for the sake of benchmarking I obviously tested it) and the music was just crystal clear, and that was WITH the mids and highs EQ'd up a bit.

To summarize: I've had 6 pairs of headphones up to $300 USD and I would recommend these a million times over. Not because I'm some n00b who fell in love but because I've tried and tweaked the others very carefully and feel I know for a fact these have such incredible potential over the others. These are the dream headphones for somebody who likes to EQ and bassboost. The dream headphones for a listener who understands different songs and genres need different EQ's. And still the dream headphones for somebody who just wants beautiful sound out of the box (but don't be like that n00bs :P )

post #442 of 662

Thanks for the informative post! I agree about the EQ; they respond to EQ better than any other headphone I've tried.


Edited by macrocheesium - 3/27/12 at 10:22am
post #443 of 662

Whoever needs some good EDM tracks to compare headphones for dynamics and bass "tightness" or just want to listen to some good music should check out an 8-tracks playlist I just made: 8tracks.com/tubakien/audiophile-bass-dubstep-progressive-electro

 

Let me know what you think! L3000.gif

 

Oh yes, and HFI-580s are IMHO much clearer in terms of low frequency response than many similarly priced brands I've owned (M50s and HD-555s) without a doubt. Being a tuba player (^^username^^), you can tell I'm a bass enthusiast. They definitely earn a spot high on my recommendations list for price/performance and sexiness, both of which are always highly important traits to tubas, haha.

 

Edit: Just realized 8tracks.com doesn't do any of these songs justice, sadly.


Edited by Tubakien - 3/27/12 at 9:39am
post #444 of 662
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Originally Posted by Tubakien View Post

Whoever needs some good EDM tracks to compare headphones for dynamics and bass "tightness" or just want to listen to some good music should check out an 8-tracks playlist I just made: 8tracks.com/tubakien/audiophile-bass-dubstep-progressive-electro

 

Let me know what you think! L3000.gif

 

Oh yes, and HFI-580s are IMHO much clearer in terms of low frequency response than many similarly priced brands I've owned (M50s and HD-555s) without a doubt. Being a tuba player (^^username^^), you can tell I'm a bass enthusiast. They definitely earn a spot high on my recommendations list for price/performance and sexiness, both of which are always highly important traits to tubas, haha.

 

Edit: Just realized 8tracks.com doesn't do any of these songs justice, sadly.

Hahah..yeah that's the problem i was going to point out........
 

 

post #445 of 662

Hello people,

 

I join this thread because just received the DJ1's this morning. smile.gif

 

About two months ago I joined this forum (actually I read it almost every day biggrin.gif) and did some questions on other thread (right now I have no permission to access to it, don't know why) trying to solve some doubts between the K-181DJ and the M50. At first, I didn't want to go with the Ultrasone's because my previous headphones seems to have the same housing. I found a good deal for the M50's and was almost decided to go for them, but the shop seemed not to be interested in selling them to me, so I let it go.

 

One or two weeks ago, I found another good deal for the M50's (about 126 EUR shipped). In the meanwhile, I had kept reading to this wonderful forum, so I knew that the Ultrasone HFI-580/DJ1 would be a better option for the price and I found a good deal for the DJ1 as well (about 120 EUR shipped)... So I said myself 'Why don't you try the Ultrasone's? They are worth three or four times higher than your cheap pair, they have to be better for sure...'

 

So finally I ended buying the Ultrasone's on Thursday and have received this morning. Yes, just out of the box I can see clearly that these headphones are better than my old pair by far. I thought that the housing will be similar, but this is not so. My new DJ1's are better made by far. They are more lightweight and more comfortable.

 

Right now I'm just listening to the demo CD and the headphones sound incredible. The only thing I don't like is that the left ear seems to sound better (clearer and stronger) than the right one frown.gif. Maybe this is a figment of my imagination, but if anybody in the place have had similar perceptions, please let me know. Anyway, they may need to be burned in to sound properly... But don't know, I'm just new in these things and these are my first pair of headphones around the 100 EUR.

 

I'll try to post future perceptions.

 

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post #446 of 662

Well, I've been listening to music about 7-8 hours with the DJ1 and haven't experienced many differences in the sound. The right channel seems to have improved a bit, but I still feel it lifeless, focused only on the right. Its sound it's static, without enough detail, while the left channel sound it's more dynamic, live, detailed and not focused on the left. This is almost not noticeable when I have the balance control centered, but when I put the control on the left and then on the right, or viceversa, I can feel the difference.

Could anyone tell me if this is a normal thing or if this is me (that I'm getting crazy)? Has anybody tried to tweak the balance control in order to listen each channel separately and compare?

Right now, I've left some time the headphones with the demo CD (sounds awesome) at a higher volume than I usually listen to, in order to break-in them. Let's see how the sound after a few hours. If I don't find differences, I'll have to return them.

post #447 of 662

Im looking for an upgrade for my Sony XB500.. From what i read, the bass is strong in these, but with better mid and highs. The only concern i have is the long chord. i will be using these for portable use, so how is the isolation, do you think this is a step up from the xb500 and is possible to buy a shorter cord for the hfi 580?

post #448 of 662

The HFI-580 are the same than the DJ1, which have coiled cord instead the normal one of the HFI-580. The length is the same, but the coiled looks shorter. There are aesthetics differences between them too, but the headphones are the same (you can see a picture of the DJ1 in my avatar).

I can't tell you much about the isolation. As told above, I received the DJ1 on Monday so haven't use them enough time to talk about this and only going to use them at home.

Other people around here say that the isolation is good, maybe not as good as other headphones (like the M50 or specially the HD-25), but is good.

The bass is good and they also are comfortable to me.


Edited by parrish - 5/2/12 at 11:39am
post #449 of 662
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Originally Posted by heste1234 View Post

Im looking for an upgrade for my Sony XB500.. From what i read, the bass is strong in these, but with better mid and highs. The only concern i have is the long chord. i will be using these for portable use, so how is the isolation, do you think this is a step up from the xb500 and is possible to buy a shorter cord for the hfi 580?

 

The cord is really long - 3m. I had to braid my HFI 580s to offer any true semblance of portability. I don't think you can get them in any other version. The 780s, on the other hand, currently offer a version with a 1m cord with a 4m extension.

 

This is my 580s with the braided wire.

 

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Its a different can from the XB500s. The Sonys are there for pure bass punch; the 580s deliver a cleaner, more refined bass presence that will make your EDM music more enjoyable. Still, nothing really beats the XB500s for a pure basshead experience.

post #450 of 662
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Originally Posted by parrish View Post

Well, I've been listening to music about 7-8 hours with the DJ1 and haven't experienced many differences in the sound. The right channel seems to have improved a bit, but I still feel it lifeless, focused only on the right. Its sound it's static, without enough detail, while the left channel sound it's more dynamic, live, detailed and not focused on the left. This is almost not noticeable when I have the balance control centered, but when I put the control on the left and then on the right, or viceversa, I can feel the difference.

Could anyone tell me if this is a normal thing or if this is me (that I'm getting crazy)? Has anybody tried to tweak the balance control in order to listen each channel separately and compare?

Right now, I've left some time the headphones with the demo CD (sounds awesome) at a higher volume than I usually listen to, in order to break-in them. Let's see how the sound after a few hours. If I don't find differences, I'll have to return them.

 

Most people say they need 100 hours. I'd give it 50 hours or 2 days at least before judging it, and it might sort out the channel problem by itself by then too.

 

I wouldn't say it's a "normal" thing, but it certainly is possible that there's a channel imbalance. (It's also possible that you are crazy, but I'm going under the assumption that you aren't.)

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