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post #691 of 3844

hmm..maybe.. but i think the headphone itself is not bad..considering the detail and clean sound i got from the short listening, i can see they being loved by some people, but i think its sound signature is not for me..

post #692 of 3844

 

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Originally Posted by R-Audiohead View Post





Not slamming you or anything, but it sounds like whatever the store had them hooked into was a POS


From the looks of the FR graphs, it seems to be similar to the Beyerdynamic T1 and I thought the T1 had tremendous vocal sibilance.

 

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Edited by wind016 - 7/7/11 at 11:52pm
post #693 of 3844
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Originally Posted by wind016 View Post

 


From the looks of the FR graphs, it seems to be similar to the Beyerdynamic T1 and I thought the T1 had tremendous vocal sibilance.

 

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While I do agree they have a certain amount of "beyerness" to them, going by FR graphs aren't enough and i strongly suggest you listen to them, they're quite smooth. After all, if FR graphs were to trust, the D2k's don't have recessed mids, and we all know that's quite far from the truth.
post #694 of 3844
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Originally Posted by redwarrior191 View Post

 

, vocals also sounds not really good with this can.. i hear shhh.. shhh.. all the time..  [...]

I think the bass is not much different, quantity and quality wise from my hd598 [...] they are certainly more refined than my hd598, but it terms of musicality i think i still prefer my hd598..

Disappointing .... Will the srh940 even reach the statut of FOTM ?

Maybe getting neutral cans is not a good idea, I should have been looking for the pro 900 instead .

post #695 of 3844

And what's the point of it reaching FOTM status?!?

You either want cans with the best clarity and balance you can get for the right price, or go with the most colored can you want for x-type of genre you listen to, etc.

 

It's all about preference and/or having different sound signatures...

My next cans WONT be Shure's for sure... :-p

But I'm sure I'll be back to my 940s because even though they are a bit bright, I truly/thoroughly enjoy them! (and yes, I even listen to bands such as Shiny Toy Guns, Kaskade, Deadmau5 with these and to me they sound tasty!)...

 

 

post #696 of 3844

Another option could be(perhaps more likely) the pair that poster tried did not have a lot of play time and as such were not broken in yet.  If the 940 is anything like the 840 it will likely benefit from an extensive burn-in period. 

post #697 of 3844

 

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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

And what's the point of it reaching FOTM status?!?

 

In other words the minimal  popular success you'd except  from a winning product.

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You either want cans with the best clarity and balance you can get for the right price, or go with the most colored can you want for x-type of genre you listen to, etc.

I  hope I'll like the srh940 more than my hd595 (which is a bit dull) , but the review of redwarrior191 is not encouraging.

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My next cans WONT be Shure's for sure... :-p

I want  the srh940 to be my last can angry_face.gif.  At least , for some times .

 

@Digital-Pride

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the pair that poster tried did not have a lot of play time and as such were not broken in yet

Yeah, this MUST be that wink.gif

post #698 of 3844

Quote:Originally Posted by Digital-Pride 

"Another option could be(perhaps more likely) the pair that poster tried did not have a lot of play time and as such were not broken in yet.  If the 940 is anything like the 840 it will likely benefit from an extensive burn-in period."



I think it's about personal preference. I've heard the Senn 598 and didn't like them at all. The 940 isn't going to transform into a different can with more burn.

post #699 of 3844

I'm quite anxious for the new album as well, delays killed me. Apparently it's going to be a throwback to old times and contain some epics. I'm not much of a fan of the albums after test for echo... but they're still great. Thanks for the link, i may have stumbled on it a while ago and forgot about it.
 

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Yes, that term sums up the true aim of this hobby for me. I suppose it doesn't come up much here as many audiophile types dismiss headphones out of hand as mere play toys. And they do have a point: if I can listen to speakers I do. I only usually use headphones for "quiet time" when the gf is asleep or for exercise/chores around the house. Kind of silly I've spent as much as I have on cans/amps in this respect, but I still listen to them hours a week on average. I know some who have spent many thousands on speakers (much less whole systems) they hardly ever listen to lol.

 

I hope you're not disappointed with these with all this hype!

 


And you call yourself a Canadian! biggrin.gif

 

Yea, look it up! Alex is called Lexrst and Geddy Dirk as well. Also Snow Dog and By Tor respectively.

 

Here's a great site for all sorts of Rush info if you don't already know about it:

 

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/main/Home.htm

 

They have been very busy since 2002 (their return after Neil's tragedies) and I just saw them yet again this summer (my 10th Rush concert since my first in '94). Awaiting another album in 2012! (Their last one, Snakes and Arrows, is one of their best ever imo).

 



 

post #700 of 3844

thanks for all your comments and I've got my SRH940 based on this post...^_^

 

Sorry about my poor English but I guess you guys should be able to understand what I want to say... 

 

I'm using 0404USB => Burson HA-160 and tried to compare K702 and SRH940

 

Any of you who tried the K702 together with Burson HA-160 should know it's just a great match.... very musical, instrument separation is also great and also a big sound stage which makes this combination great for any orchestral music....and also great for female vocal. I think the SRH940 is just not as good in terms of instrument separation using HA-160. For the cons I found that the HA-160 actually smooth off the treble a bit which makes the instrument sounds a bit "fake" under the K702... the sound is not clear enough.... also since it's an open can it doesn't have noise isolation..... 

 

For the combination of SRH940 + HA160, as many of you already mentioned the treble is better than K702... which makes the instrument sounds a bit more realistic than K702 under HA160.... 

 

Conclusion:

- SRH940 > K702 for solo instrument

- SRH940 >> K702 for noise isolation (well... useless point...)

- K702 >> SRH940 in terms of more "musical"

- K702 >> SRH940 for orchestral music

- K702 >> SRH940 for vocal 

 

- I sold my K702 to my friend because I need the noise isolation...^_^

 

actually HA-160 really does "magic" to the K702.... but when I plug the SRH940 into the HA160 it actually doesn't change the sound THAT much compare to the headphone jack of my creative T20... a bit disappointed for that.... but it makes it a great can for people who don't have budget (or just don't want) an amp.....


Edited by hubertfung - 7/8/11 at 10:20am
post #701 of 3844
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Originally Posted by SRR1138 View Post

Got my $126 (shipped) SRH940's today, thanks to electronic expo for the broken coupon! 60 some % off instead of 30%, laughing all the the way home on that one!

 

Anyway, my most experience with headphones of quality goes from a AKG 240 Studio, to Fostex 20's, to well tapers off fast there, to AKG K44, and our tracking headphones the More Me deluxe. Hate the Fostex, liked the AKG 240, BUT I used it for live sound mixing and well, it is a semi open can, which worked up to a point. 

 

The SRH940 of course smokes them all for breakfest. I used them tonight to EQ on the fly at Church and then when I got home worked on some mixes for a band that is making a CD through my services. I have been taught over the years that never mix on headphones. And I think that rains through to today. But, I can EQ with these, and I can more easily check reverb amounts then with studio speakers alone or just the cheap crap headphones that we have around here. Well I like them very much and I am sure for my uses they are probably dramatically better then the 840s. But I am still thinking about getting a pair of 440s for my wife and her business partner. Now, I do ask is the 440 head band as big as the 940? Cause the 940 is really big on my wife's tiny little head.

 

Oh and I think I settled in on 5 or 6 for the position of the head band on each side, where are you guys/girls at? I can't believe the noggen size these can wrap around, anybody think these are small? Cause I thought I had a huge head. lol.   



Glad you like them and nice deal for sure!


 

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Originally Posted by redwarrior191 View Post

i got the chance to listen to a pair of these shure yesterday, so i'll share my impressions.. i've been looking for a closed can to replace my hd598 because in this hot summer, the sound of my fan or the old air con in my room is really disturbing for open cans like hd598..

 

the first thing i noticed is, this headphone is sooooooooooooo bright.. i don't know, its simply too bright for my taste.. because of that, vocals also sounds not really good with this can.. i hear shhh.. shhh.. all the time.. but details and instrument separation is really good.. the detail is way better than my hd598, but i dont know is it really detail, or merely because of the high treble energy that gave me the impressions of detail.. soundstage is also very good for a closed can, although far from my open hd598..

also, the bass in these cans are really bad.. i dont know hows the extension, i listened to them in a store so i didnt really have time to test it.. but for a closed can, its simply lacking for my taste.. i think the bass is not much different, quantity and quality wise from my hd598, but the bright nature of these phones gave me a perception of less bass then my hd598.. for me, these headphones are too bright to be considered neutral or balanced, but it's just me..

 

so, to conclude..i think these cans are simply not for my taste.. they are certainly more refined than my hd598, but it terms of musicality i think i still prefer my hd598.. so, i think i still have to look for another closed can that will satisfy my taste.. also, please note that i'm simply another person sharing their impressions.. i don't mean to discourage you all from trying out these headphones.. each persons has different taste anyway..

 

cheers,

and sory for my poor english


What were you listening to file wise? Lossy or lossless? Lossy will sound horrid on these as it does with any resolving gear. Any lossy I've listened to is sibilant/tishy.

 

That said, I agree. That is, these are not going to hide sibilance. That's what resolving gear does: brings out the flaws in material. Thus why many like more colored options that are warmer in the mids and roll off in the treble (the Senn veil!). Going from the Senn house sound to these will surely be a shock.

 

But that said these don't add sibilance either. They just present what is there, or not there, just like transparent speakers for instance. This is the blessing and curse of resolving hi-fi gear: badly produced material sounds bad, but well produced material sounds fantastic! It is up to the individual to decide whether they want accuracy/reference or coloration.

 

For my part I of course like transparency. And I don't know if the 598's are the same as the 595's, but I absolutely hate my 595's (they've been sitting in a closet for years now, except when I bring them out to compare to other cans in which they always fail miserably). I would truly say they are low-fi to me. They do nothing well or even decent imo. I literally feel like I'm listening to an AM radio down a hall whenever I put them on, seriously. No they are not blown.

 

So here we just come down to preference and all that matters is what the individual finds that he/she enjoys.


 

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Originally Posted by Germancub View Post

While I do agree they have a certain amount of "beyerness" to them, going by FR graphs aren't enough and i strongly suggest you listen to them, they're quite smooth. After all, if FR graphs were to trust, the D2k's don't have recessed mids, and we all know that's quite far from the truth.

 

Yep, we don't listen to graphs, we listen to cans/speakers. I never even look at graphs.

 

I do have the Beyer 770's (600) and that treble was too much for even me. It was sharp, metallicy, sheeny, harsh. The Shure treble is not like this to my ears (yes I compared them). It is detailed and clear yet not overly harsh. I have no listen fatigue with the 940's even after hours of listening; with the 770's I'd get LF within an hour.
 

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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

I think it's about personal preference. I've heard the Senn 598 and didn't like them at all. The 940 isn't going to transform into a different can with more burn.


I'll agree with you on that! biggrin.gif

 

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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

I'm quite anxious for the new album as well, delays killed me. Apparently it's going to be a throwback to old times and contain some epics. I'm not much of a fan of the albums after test for echo... but they're still great. Thanks for the link, i may have stumbled on it a while ago and forgot about it.
 


I'm a fan of all of their stuff and actually find the '75 to '91 period the best, the "classic" Rush period. I don't much care if they make 20 or even 10 mintue long songs or not (and haven't since high school), just if they continue to create fantasic songs by all measures. And that they have continued to do to this day for the most part imo. Counterparts and Test For Echo are actually among my least favorite Rush albums. Vapor Trails (besides the abysmal sound quality) is much better and Snakes and Arrows may be their best yet imo (in so far as you can compare apples and organes as Rush albums are). 

 

No problem for the link; never know who has seen what on the web or not.

 

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Originally Posted by hubertfung View Post

thanks for all your comments and I've got my SRH940 based on this post...^_^

 

Sorry about my poor English but I guess you guys should be able to understand what I want to say... 

 

I'm using 0404USB => Burson HA-160 and tried to compare K702 and SRH940

 

Any of you who tried the K702 together with Burson HA-160 should know it's just a great match.... very musical, instrument separation is also great and also a big sound stage which makes this combination great for any orchestral music....and also great for female vocal. I think the SRH940 is just not as good in terms of instrument separation using HA-160. For the cons I found that the HA-160 actually smooth off the treble a bit which makes the instrument sounds a bit "fake" under the K702... the sound is not clear enough.... also since it's an open can it doesn't have noise isolation..... 

 

For the combination of SRH940 + HA160, as many of you already mentioned the treble is better than K702... which makes the instrument sounds a bit more realistic than K702 under HA160.... 

 

Conclusion:

- SRH940 > K702 for solo instrument

- SRH940 >> K702 for noise isolation (well... useless point...)

- K702 >> SRH940 in terms of more "musical"

- K702 >> SRH940 for orchestral music

- K702 >> SRH940 for vocal 

 

- I sold my K702 to my friend because I need the noise isolation...^_^

 

actually HA-160 really does "magic" to the K702.... but when I plug the SRH940 into the HA160 it actually doesn't change the sound THAT much compare to the headphone jack of my creative T20... a bit disappointed for that.... but it makes it a great can for people who don't have budget (or just don't want) an amp.....


 

Good compare/contrast, but I'd say the 940 is better than the 702 in all regards (including those you listed), except the "open" sound and comfort. The 940's don't sound closed in, but they could perhaps use a little more "air". But then the 702's are too wide in sound stage and the vocals are recessed and dark in comparsion for me. I don't think you'll be missing them; I gave mine to my gf for use.

post #702 of 3844
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 

 

In other words the minimal  popular success you'd except  from a winning product.

I  hope I'll like the srh940 more than my hd595 (which is a bit dull) , but the review of redwarrior191 is not encouraging.

I want  the srh940 to be my last can angry_face.gif.  At least , for some times .

 

@Digital-Pride

Yeah, this MUST be that wink.gif


 

Come on... YOU KNOW that these wont be your last cans!!!!! :-p

And again, if you like clarity and love mids, you'll love these. And they don't do a bad

job on some electronica/house/DnB content I play (playing Deadmau5 - Afterhours right now... loving it!!!) So they will

probably kick the HD595s arse (Even though I haven't heard/used the HDs... I do want the 598 just because they look pretty!!! LOL!!!)
 

 

post #703 of 3844

"That said, I agree. That is, these are not going to hide sibilance. That's what resolving gear does: brings out the flaws in material. Thus why many like more colored options that are warmer in the mids and roll off in the treble (the Senn veil!). Going from the Senn house sound to these will surely be a shock.

 

But that said these don't add sibilance either. They just present what is there, or not there, just like transparent speakers for instance. This is the blessing and curse of resolving hi-fi gear: badly produced material sounds bad, but well produced material sounds fantastic! It is up to the individual to decide whether they want accuracy/reference or coloration."

 

Pratt, i agree with your description of accuracy/transparency/resolution vs coloration, however i think there is more to it than that. Resolving gear can also be smooth. For instance, you can have an accurate/transparent/resolving/clear/detailed headphone that isn't smooth, and thus producing a certain amount of treble harshness. Other analogies can be used as examples; going from a Lexus to a Mercedes (while the former can be considered of very good quality, the latter simply turns the asphalt into silk!), the same thing happens with wine, scotch, etc. you get the point. You "usually" have to spend more for the qualities of richness and smoothness. Having said that (and now getting back to headphones), pursuing reference qualities AND expecting smoothness (and avoiding sibilance) probably places you in flagship territory...

 

 


Edited by vlach - 7/8/11 at 8:07pm
post #704 of 3844

I guess the 42Ohm/100db 940 didn't really like my beta22 amp. It has a higher noise floor than I expected. My beta22 has 5 gain. The 840 also has a similar noise floor with that amp.

It now has about 40 hours on it. I like it a lot. it does sound much better amped than right out of an iPod. It brings forth the much needed bass. Call me crazy but I think the HD800 has more impact.

I also don't think they're as detailed. I found the K70x better in this way too.

They have the house silky Shure mids. That's always a Shure strong suit.

All said, they're a great closed can for under $200. I even prefer them to other closed cans I've heard for more than twice or even three times that at typical street prices.

post #705 of 3844

Must be you. There's plenty of bass. I think what throws people off is that they display clarity and transparency in the bass range which is at odds with 90% of headphones. They are bright...when the recording is bright. I listened to some tracks that sounded bright and others that sounded warm and rolled off. So don't blame the messenger. Check your source.
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Originally Posted by redwarrior191 View Post

 

the first thing i noticed is, this headphone is sooooooooooooo bright.. i don't know, its simply too bright for my taste.. because of that, vocals also sounds not really good with this can.. i hear shhh.. shhh.. all the time.. but details and instrument separation is really good.. the detail is way better than my hd598, but i dont know is it really detail, or merely because of the high treble energy that gave me the impressions of detail.. soundstage is also very good for a closed can, although far from my open hd598..

also, the bass in these cans are really bad.. i dont know hows the extension, i listened to them in a store so i didnt really have time to test it.. but for a closed can, its simply lacking for my taste.. i think the bass is not much different, quantity and quality wise from my hd598, but the bright nature of these phones gave me a perception of less bass then my hd598.. for me, these headphones are too bright to be considered neutral or balanced, but it's just me..

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