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940 is in da house! Now time to burn them in. Then compare them to the 840.

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Providing that their measurements are properly done, they are pretty flat comparing to my SRH- 440/840

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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

940 is in da house! Now time to burn them in. Then compare them to the 840.



Congrats on your new purchase. SHHH....don't start again......burn-in is an endless and non-constructive debate . Happy listening.

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post




Flatter, but this doesn't explain why the srh940 would be detailed. Nor does it provide any indication about the bass quality. I wouldn't buy this headphone by looking at this graph, they are other headphone that looks much flatter like the denon AH-D2000.

 

 

The extension doesn't look bad at all on the 940, and it drops off more slowly than the srh840. If you look at the 50hz wave it looks like it recovers more quickly than the Denon as well.

 

I think a better measure is comparing them to the HD600 or even the K701, the D2000 isn't known for being the most neutral thing around. Check out the dip the D2000 takes at 1-6K on ACDOAN's post.


Edited by 200poundsofamp - 7/6/11 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post

940 is in da house! Now time to burn them in. Then compare them to the 840.



Do that TOOL/pink noise thing for about 4 days. It helps. Top end becomes much smoother. Started off bright, now the treble is about ideal.

 

This is the first can I've heard that sounds like it has a relatively flat response and is dynamic and fast at the same time. Hard trick to pull off.

 

I need more time before I post my full comments.

 

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Quote:Originally Posted by ACDOAN 


"Congrats on your new purchase. SHHH....don't start again......burn-in is an endless and non-constructive debate . Happy listening."

Thanks!


Too late I already added my opinion a page or two back. lol. Oh yeah, I cheated. I didn't wait 4 days before I listened to them. Lmao


initial impressions are good. The bass bloat is gone from the 840. The treble is more extended. The balance is more neutral. They aren't as detailed as flagship cans like the HD800, LCD2, HE6, HE500 and T1. But I didn't expect it really. They sound more open than most of the true closed cans I've heard. I'll report more later.

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Quote:Originally Posted by Beagle 



"Do that TOOL/pink noise thing for about 4 days. It helps. Top end becomes much smoother. Started off bright, now the treble is about ideal.
This is the first can I've heard that sounds like it has a relatively flat response and is dynamic and fast at the same time. Hard trick to pull off.
I need more time before I post my full comments."



I cheated a bit but will plug them in with that loop tonight and will leave them for several days.

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Originally Posted by 200poundsofamp View Post

 

Fair enough. But reserved praise is still a poor excuse for hype, we still need some people saying a $500 cable and some cotton balls turns these into he-500's or something. :)

 


Pratt, since you listen to Rush are you noticing a little mid bass hole in these things, or does that only exist on paper?



I know this post was awhile back but I thought I would mention that I do indeed think these are a little light on the mid bass.  Just like I mentioned in my review, I thought this was the only (potential) weakness to the overall sound signature of the 'phone, but it also helps the bass from bleeding into the mids, which I find common on most audio drivers... headphones or not.  This "bass bleeding" is one very good assessment to determine playback quality of an audio device... obviously there are many others as well but this one seems to be one in particular which shapes up substantially as you work your way up the tiers from my experience.

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As far as the mid bass goes, I find it amusing how brainwashed we are to think we need a mid bass bloat in order to enjoy music. Try as I did, and train your ears that you don't need it and just listen to the music. You won't miss it once you get accustomed to the lack of it, the larger gap between mid and sub bass and when you listen to something like 840's after, they will sound "off" and even, dare I say, artificially fun.
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A thing I  don't understand is pianist  user from head-fi the same guy, as the reviewer of headphonia (200poundsofamp implied this) ?

In headphonia, the reviewer clearly state that the srh940 is an improvement of srh840, while pianist said on a post that he prefers the srh840 to srh940 to enjoy music.

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

A thing I  don't understand is pianist  user from head-fi the same guy, as the reviewer of headphonia (200poundsofamp implied this) ?

In headphonia, the reviewer clearly state that the srh940 is an improvement of srh840, while pianist said on a post that he prefers the srh840 to srh940 to enjoy music.

 


Who knows/cares. He's the only one so far who has an overall negative impression of these. One negative review out of about 10 extremely positive is pretty good if you ask me.
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Who knows/cares. He's the only one so far who has an overall negative impression of these. One negative review out of about 10 extremely positive is pretty good if you ask me.


Pianist seems to know what he's talking about. I think it's best to take these negative criticisms and figure out what's up than making a decision by quantitatively adding positive and negative reviews.

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While I don't doubt he knows what he's talking about, I trust my ears over reviews because I don't need experts to tell me what sounds good to me. As sound is very subjective, what I consider to be some of the best headphones in the world are merely mediocre to others. With that said, the general consensus of the 940's is overwhelmingly positive.
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Originally Posted by 200poundsofamp View Post
Pratt, since you listen to Rush are you noticing a little mid bass hole in these things, or does that only exist on paper?


I'm really not noticing it. In fact, I'm only now looking for it since people have mentioned it. I'm not finding it, I'm just finding that these are not warm and thus don't have overdone mid bass. So if that's a hole to some, then I guess in that way there is one. I would just say they are more accurate/neutral...they aren't Grado's!
 

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, won't argue about it that's for sure :) Btw, cool display pic, Rush is amazing

 

 

Agreed and thanks and yes they are! Fan for 20 years here; listen to them at least weekly and have for these 20 years.

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Flatter, but this doesn't explain why the srh940 would be detailed. Nor does it provide any indication about the bass quality. I wouldn't buy this headphone by looking at this graph, they are other headphone that looks much flatter like the denon AH-D2000.


We listen to headphones/speakers and not graphs. One reason I've never gotten the D2000's is because they are generally regarded as being recessed in the mids, having a V or U shaped sound. Thus I have no interest in them no matter what any graph says (my Beyer 770's are too much like that as it is...probably sell those back now that I have the 940's).

 

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Originally Posted by 200poundsofamp View Post

The extension doesn't look bad at all on the 940, and it drops off more slowly than the srh840. If you look at the 50hz wave it looks like it recovers more quickly than the Denon as well.

 

I think a better measure is comparing them to the HD600 or even the K701, the D2000 isn't known for being the most neutral thing around. Check out the dip the D2000 takes at 1-6K on ACDOAN's post.


Agreed on all points.

 

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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

Do that TOOL/pink noise thing for about 4 days. It helps. Top end becomes much smoother. Started off bright, now the treble is about ideal.

 

This is the first can I've heard that sounds like it has a relatively flat response and is dynamic and fast at the same time. Hard trick to pull off.

 

I need more time before I post my full comments.

 

 

I'm not finding these any different than when I first put them on. I have about 20 hours on them now. They are still "too" bright if you like a relaxed/warm sound; I found the treble close to perfect from the start since I like a "bright"/clear/detailed sound. I don't like grain or sibilance though, and these don't have that, at least with well recorded material that doesn't have it and of course Lossless (I listened to some stuff on Youtube--I have no lossy files--and it did sound somewhat harsh).

 

I agree that these are neutral as well as quick paced with some good PRaT. One of the first things I noticed was the "energy" they had in comparison to my 702's. It is like my Grado's, only with a more refined "hi-fi" sound and of course less coloration.
 

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Originally Posted by Germancub View Post

As far as the mid bass goes, I find it amusing how brainwashed we are to think we need a mid bass bloat in order to enjoy music. Try as I did, and train your ears that you don't need it and just listen to the music. You won't miss it once you get accustomed to the lack of it, the larger gap between mid and sub bass and when you listen to something like 840's after, they will sound "off" and even, dare I say, artificially fun.

 

I agree. I find warm lovers to either be old or mellow types or those who have unresolving gear and never heard better so they think more neutral/hi-fi gear is "off" when really overly colored gear is. Clarity and accuracy, precision and neutrality, transparency and resolution are the goals of hi-fi gear for me. Headphones and speakers are supposed to stay out of the music's way with little coloration and that's what the 940's largely do. "Warm" material sounds warm, "bright" material sounds bright, and the best recorded material sounds fantastic and how it "should" sound, just like it does with high end speakers. And, of course, poorly recorded material sounds poor. That's when I'll bring in my 225i's to listen to try to cover over the deficiencies of poorly produced material (I won't even listen to it with speakers it sounds so bad).

 

 

A couple of things I didn't mention before: Drums are spectacular on these cans since they have such a snap, crispness, and tight punchy sound when it comes to them as well as fantastic cymbal detail. Again, I'm not hearing things I've never heard before because I have very resolving speakers (and have heard many others as well), but these are the most detailed cans I've heard and if they can not match my speakers for the true realism/extension/imaging of that detail, they almost can in just bringing it out. So listening to Neil Peart, for example, is a true pleasure with these cans. Also, bass guitar is very articulate, textured, and tight, so Geddy Lee's bass is a pleasure to listen to as well (as is his synth work). Guitar is also articulate and detailed as well, so, again, Alex Lifeson is wonderful to hear on these as well. Vocals as well are smooth, balanced in the mix, yet can be incredibly detailed (i.e. you can hear lips smacking, breath on the mic, etc).

 

But while all this detail and nuance is there and easy to pick up on, it is not distracting as I have said before. The flow of the music is still there and balance/cohesion reigns overall. You can thus put these on and listen to music just "in the background" or you can pay close attention to every subtlety in any music you like. Quite a winning combo imo.

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